Create a Character

[Godo]

This thread is why I will never support Create-a-Character in Dragonball games, and is a large part of why I despise DB Online.

Look at this shit, people. Behold the fetid refuse of your pathetic imaginations.

I don't think that someone who is obsessed with a fictional manga character has a saying here.
Go get laid or something.

[Kaboom]

Okay, okay, that's enough on all counts, please.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

What do you guys think of my characters? Mary Sue or kinda cool and realistic?

[Kiyza]

What do you guys think of my characters? Mary Sue or kinda cool and realistic?

I'm no expert on fan characters, but I read quite a bit of fanficion and I know the cliches when I see them. Here's my honest to goodness input.

The one who's of Freeza's race seems a little strong in comparison to his family members. As strong as what you call "Full Power Super Saiyan?" (Whatever that is...) It seems a little too strong to me, but that's my only complaint about him.

The other two are just future rehashes of existing characters who shouldn't exist in that timeline if you ask me. She seems way too similar to Trunks if you ask me, and seems to be little more than a female rehashing of the character.

It's beyond me how Pan exists if Gohan, and presumably Videl, are dead. But she also seems way too strong. If she's on par with Piccolo at her base, even if she can't transform, it seems much too strong to me, Saiyan heritage or not.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Well its a future alternate timeline. Obviously there are similarities and changes. Videl didnt die. If you recall, I stated Bra returned her world to normal, then found Pan. Likely she was wished back. And if Piccolo, not a Saiyan can be that strong then a base saiyan can too. Goten and Trunks as SSJs were that strong thereabouts and they didnt live through hell. Being that she grew up the same, its not very realistic for her to be TOTALLY different. She IS basically Trunks born a girl really. But with help from Pan and a few new moves.

I stated that Iceberg trained a lot. More than his uncle or father. And its a long time till he reaches earth, which would be end of z/gt era.

These are my first OCs. Thanks for the honest input. I thought i did a good job on the techniques.

[Kiyza]

Likely she was wished back. And if Piccolo, not a Saiyan can be that strong then a base saiyan can too.

You need to go a little more in depth with these explanations. How could she be wished back if there's presumably no romance between Gohan and Videl in the future?

That's just the thing. The majority of fans agree that base form Saiyans would be weaker than Piccolo, considering they'd be at 1/50 of their Super Saiyan strength. It's foolish to believe that just because someone's a Saiyan, they're automatically stronger than every other character in existance. It would mean that she's stronger than Goku's base as well, which seems a little too strong. I think it would be justifyable to give her a Super Saiyan transformation as well, so long as you can come up with an explanation as to why she has it. And further more, Pan's not a Saiyan, she's mostly human.

And yeah, I forgot to read Iceberg's bio thoughroully. Training's a good explanation if you ask me, since I doubt Freeza trained at all.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

I said there was. Videl didnt die with the rest and romanced gohan. Pan was born but Videl and Pan died. Wasn't Goku's base in Cell games around his own SSJ self on Namek? Maybe she is a little too strong. How about Frieza level then?

I do believe Frieza trained, since Cooler said Frieza was always one-upping him. And his skills are pretty polished. If he didn't train, he would fight like Broly or Adult Gohan (ie sucky).

[Godo]

Wasn't Goku's base in Cell games around his own SSJ self on Namek?

Nope.
When Kaioshin told Goku and co. about himself and the other Kaioshins being able to kill Freeza in one blow (at the Buu Arc), they were all shocked, including all the Saiya-jins.
I doubt they would have been if they could defeat Freeza in base.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Well I put Pui Pui as stronger than Frieza, and look how easy that fight was.

[Godo]

well i put pui pui as stronger than frieza and look how easy that fight was.

It was easy because of Pui Pui being much weaker than Vegeta, as in Vegeta's base could be 8,000,000 and Pui Pui be just 1,000,000 in Battle Power. Or Vegeta was 8 and Pui Pui was 1. Get it?

You putting him there is baseless. You are basically denying the existance a couple of panels in the manga where the Saiya-jins were shown that they were impressed with that. As in, it's something they can't do themselves.


It would be cool if the Saiya-jins got that strong, but even Goku claimed after the ROSAT that training wouldn't make much more good for their FPSSJ anymore. That's why they seeked out new kinds of transformations.

But, yeah, this discussion is off-topic anyways.

[ShadowTwinz]

Why were on the topic of giving opinions on a character what did you all think of Kasseva I tried to squeeze her in to the timeline so everything would still work out right. I'm thinking of re-doing her past/personality but I would like someone's opinion/s before I did anything

[Xyex]

And if Piccolo, not a Saiyan can be that strong then a base saiyan can too.

There's just sooooo much wrong with this statement.

First of all, Namekians are superior to Saiya-jins. Note that Vegeta was the "Most powerful Saiya-jin in history" at 18,000. Nail was just a basic warrior Namek at 42,000. Nail could have conquered Planet Vegeta on his own, so long as no one went Oozaru.

Secondly, Goku and Vegeta are just Goku and Vegeta. Piccolo is a twice fused being. Saying that "Well, Piccolo got there, so the base Saiya-jins can too" would be the same as saying "Well, Super Vegetto got there, so Mr. Satan can too." They're incompatible forms, states, and natures.

Thirdly, Piccolo is beyond the power of a Super Saiya-jin. No base Saiya-jin ever matches the power of SSJ Goku on Namek, let alone surpasses the power of SSJ Vegeta in the Android saga.

Wasn't Goku's base in Cell games around his own SSJ self on Namek? Maybe she is a little too strong. How about Freeza level then?

Hell no. Base Goku at the end of Z might be as strong as 50% Freeza. But that's about the extent of it.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

well i put pui pui as stronger than frieza and look how easy that fight was.

It was easy because of Pui Pui being much weaker than Vegeta, as in Vegeta's base could be 8,000,000 and Pui Pui be just 1,000,000 in Battle Power. Or Vegeta was 8 and Pui Pui was 1. Get it?

You putting him there is baseless. You are basically denying the existance a couple of panels in the manga where the Saiya-jins were shown that they were impressed with that. As in, it's something they can't do themselves.


It would be cool if the Saiya-jins got that strong, but even Goku claimed after the ROSAT that training wouldn't make much more good for their FPSSJ anymore. That's why they seeked out new kinds of transformations.

But, yeah, this discussion is off-topic anyways.

Actually, Vegeta is surprised that Kaioshin can read his thoughts. Please don't rely on fan translations. ^.^

[Herms]

Actually, Vegeta is surprised that Kaioshin can read his thoughts. Please don't rely on fan translations. ^.^

And even putting accuracy issues aside, they look like shit anyway. What did they do to make those scans look so bad? They look like they were drawn in Windows Paint.

[Xyex]

Looks like a bad resizing job to me. You see stuff like that a lot in scans though. Most DBZ scans I've seen are like that.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

Nail was just a basic warrior Namek

No he's the only fully trained warrior, bodyguard to the Grand Elder. Basic warriors are around 2000. Saiyans are naturally stronger and have the potential to get infinitely stronger. Base saiyans in Buu saga would WTFPWN Frieza/imperfect Cell. Its an unfair comparison to compare Namek vs base Saiyan with Vegetto vs Mr Satan, not to mention retarded.

[Xyex]

Nail was just a basic warrior Namek

No he's the only fully trained warrior, bodyguard to the Grand Elder. Basic warriors are around 2000. Saiyans are naturally stronger and have the potential to get infinitely stronger. Base saiyans in Buu saga would WTFPWN Freeza/imperfect Cell. Its an unfair comparison to compare Namek vs base Saiyan with Vegetto vs Mr Satan, not to mention retarded.

Nail was the only Warrior Namek. And Saiya-jins don't have the potential to get infinitely stronger. Base Saiya-jins in the Buu Saga would get their asses kicked by 50% Freeza.

[Ussj Future Trunks]

How? They've done nothing but training for 7 years (Goku and Vegeta). Its not like their base form just stops getting stronger. Goku could have owned Yakkon in base and he's around stronger than Frieza. And there is an entire warrior CLASS on Namek. Meaning more than one.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Nail was just a basic warrior Namek

No he's the only fully trained warrior, bodyguard to the Grand Elder. Basic warriors are around 2000. Saiyans are naturally stronger and have the potential to get infinitely stronger. Base saiyans in Buu saga would WTFPWN Freeza/imperfect Cell. Its an unfair comparison to compare Namek vs base Saiyan with Vegetto vs Mr Satan, not to mention retarded.

Nail was the only Warrior Namek. And Saiya-jins don't have the potential to get infinitely stronger. Base Saiya-jins in the Buu Saga would get their asses kicked by 50% Freeza.

That's incorrect. Nail was simply the strongest warrior Namekian. The three Namekians that Dodoria killed, with power ratings of 3000 each, were warrior types. I think you might be remembering something Saichoro (I think?) said about Nail being the last Namekian warrior, but that's only true because Freeza killed the others. Saichoro also said that Nail was unlike any of the other Namekians Freeza had seen. He was probably a freak of nature like Goku, Vegeta and the Ginyu Force.

[Godo]

Actually, Vegeta is surprised that Kaioshin can read his thoughts. Please don't rely on fan translations. ^.^

I know. It's not what he says which is important. It's their faces after Kaioshin says that each of the Kaioshin can destroy Freeza with one punch (Swedish translation).

And even putting accuracy issues aside, they look like shit anyway. What did they do to make those scans look so bad? They look like they were drawn in Windows Paint.

Well sorry for putting such a strain in your eyes. But I haven't got a scanner. So I have to use Fanslations.