Bulma and Vegeta

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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:27 pm

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GS7X7 wrote:Now, the guy did try to blow up the earth, he murdered a whole city full of humans, then he killed a bunch of innocents on Namek. Oh, and he indirectly murdered Yamcha and Ten-Zu. He basically behaved like the moral equivalent of Genghis Khan or a serial killer.
Considering Genghis Khan preferred (and utilized) scaring a city into submission rather than slaughtering people and many if not most of his real conflicts were from the other party telling him to piss off before they realized who (the hell) he was, he might not be the best example.

But then he also wanted to build an empire for his posterity yet took little personal interest in most of the wealth he obtained, so he's odd in that regard too.
So then, I guess Piccolo Daimaou would be the moral equivalent of Genghis Khan if Gokuu hadn't defeated him?
BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:the biggest problem with it is why everyone but Tenshinhan didn't make a fuss about Vegeta's living on Earth, which is a bigger thing.
Gokuu...is Gokuu, Gohan was probably too absorbed in his education, Kuririn was scared shitless that Vegeta might kill them all without a common threat, Blooma pretty much lets anyone with a dick live in her big-ass house, Yamcha's a doormat, Chaozu only cares about being able to lick Tenshinhan's ass no matter what...

Or just that none of them actually gave a crap because the main characters that were indirectly killed by Vegeta were just revived with the DBs anyway. I guess it was only Tenshinhan that kicked up a fuss about because he was both the most ordinary and the most warrior of the lot.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by Rocketman » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:49 pm

Because Yamcha always finishes early.

Meanwhile Vegeta's Kegels are built for ten times Earth's gravity. Dude could probably use his dick for a telegraph.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:51 pm

Yet Tenshinhan is the only one with enough balls to tell it how it is. Piccolo, Kuririn, and Yamcha are just a bunch of pansies.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by dprez » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:52 pm

Piccolo wasn't afraid of Vegeta.

Yamuchas dumbass got jumped by a kamikaze saibamen, and Kuririn survived. Tenshinhan, mostly because of Chiaotzu, has damn good reason to be pissed at the mere site of Vegeta.

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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by GS7X7 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:13 pm

Did my post get deleted? (thought I posted something)


Anyway,

Maybe it's for the best Toriyama didn't write Veggie-chan and Bulma getting lovey-dovey, it could have turned into Star Wars episode 2.

I get the feeling he can't handle writing romance too well so it may be for the best that Vegeta/Bulma's falling for one another was shown off-screen.

Although the anime filler tries to give some reasons. I think the fact that Yamcha took it like a bitch when the guy that helped kill him lived in a house with him is a big reason why he got cheated on, women don't respect men that act like punks. "Oh hai guy that got me and my buddies killed, come live in my house with me and my hot girlfriend! Let's become nakama!" If he'd been more like Ten then this might not have happened.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by sonikku956 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:25 pm

GS7X7 wrote:Did my post get deleted? (thought I posted something)


Anyway,

Maybe it's for the best Toriyama didn't write Veggie-chan and Bulma getting lovey-dovey, it could have turned into Star Wars episode 2.

I get the feeling he can't handle writing romance too well so it may be for the best that Vegeta/Bulma's falling for one another was shown off-screen.

Although the anime filler tries to give some reasons. I think the fact that Yamcha took it like a bitch when the guy that helped kill him lived in a house with him is a big reason why he got cheated on, women don't respect men that act like punks. "Oh hai guy that got me and my buddies killed, come live in my house with me and my hot girlfriend! Let's become nakama!" If he'd been more like Ten then this might not have happened.
It's not as if he or any other human could do a thing about Vegeta. I don't think Yamcha got back Ginyu when it comes to power. And if he was like Ten, he wouldn't have a girlfriend XD

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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by GS7X7 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:31 pm

Yeah, he'd have Chaotzu! :lol:
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:34 pm

GS7X7 wrote: Although the anime filler tries to give some reasons. I think the fact that Yamcha took it like a bitch when the guy that helped kill him lived in a house with him is a big reason why he got cheated on, women don't respect men that act like punks. "Oh hai guy that got me and my buddies killed, come live in my house with me and my hot girlfriend! Let's become nakama!" If he'd been more like Ten then this might not have happened.
But she's the one who invited him in the first place.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:34 pm

Rocketman wrote:Because Yamcha always finishes early.

Meanwhile Vegeta's Kegels are built for ten times Earth's gravity. Dude could probably use his dick for a telegraph.
Oh, are we playing this game?

Well, Yamcha's stamina was good enough for Chi-Chi, so...
Gaffer Tape wrote:
GS7X7 wrote: Although the anime filler tries to give some reasons. I think the fact that Yamcha took it like a bitch when the guy that helped kill him lived in a house with him is a big reason why he got cheated on, women don't respect men that act like punks. "Oh hai guy that got me and my buddies killed, come live in my house with me and my hot girlfriend! Let's become nakama!" If he'd been more like Ten then this might not have happened.
But she's the one who invited him in the first place.
Yeah, unless he thinks that it was just Blooma's ploy to test Yamcha's manliness. Which doesn't sound all that implausible, knowing her (as well as the possibility that she wanted to see whether or not he was really cheating by seeing if he cared if Vegeta stayed with them, and when he didn't kick up a fuss, she took that as proof as his infidelity. Yep, I could definitely see this as fanfic material).
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:56 pm

Yeah, and the best part is that she made this offer while he was still dead, so if that's the case, I guess she thought he was cheating on her with a bunch of dead, afterlife honeys.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by Michsi » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:08 pm

I really doubt she actually planned to do anything with Vegeta then. I doubt she had much to do with him until that incident that produced Trunks and considering Trunks age when we first see him as a baby , it took them over 2 years to get to that point. Personally, I think she and Yamcha were over long before that.

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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:38 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Yeah, and the best part is that she made this offer while he was still dead, so if that's the case, I guess she thought he was cheating on her with a bunch of dead, afterlife honeys.
Well, she thought he was cheating on him before he died anyway, so...
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by soulnova » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:46 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Yeah, and the best part is that she made this offer while he was still dead, so if that's the case, I guess she thought he was cheating on her with a bunch of dead, afterlife honeys.
Well, she thought he was cheating on him before he died anyway, so...
There's is a scene on Namek where she's hiding between the boulders and a wall has a poster of Yamcha with darts on it. So, sure, she didn't want him to die, but she seriously thought he was cheating on her well before that.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by GS7X7 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:53 pm

Don't most pro-athletes cheat on their girlfriends/spouses anyway?

Even ex-athletes who weren't that big can still reel in tons of girls.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:58 pm

Eh. Filler. Toriyama-written filler. Toriyama-written filler that I like, but, then again, so is Gregory.

Oooh! Oooh! There should be a spinoff where Yamucha, Pu'erh, and Gregory go on baseball adventures together!
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:03 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Because Yamcha always finishes early.

Meanwhile Vegeta's Kegels are built for ten times Earth's gravity. Dude could probably use his dick for a telegraph.
Oh, are we playing this game?

Well, Yamcha's stamina was good enough for Chi-Chi, so...
Actually, if there's going to be any affairs then I think Piccolo and Chichi should have an affair because he's real good with Gohan.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:12 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:
GS7X7 wrote:Now, the guy did try to blow up the earth, he murdered a whole city full of humans, then he killed a bunch of innocents on Namek. Oh, and he indirectly murdered Yamcha and Ten-Zu. He basically behaved like the moral equivalent of Genghis Khan or a serial killer.
Considering Genghis Khan preferred (and utilized) scaring a city into submission rather than slaughtering people and many if not most of his real conflicts were from the other party telling him to piss off before they realized who (the hell) he was, he might not be the best example.

But then he also wanted to build an empire for his posterity yet took little personal interest in most of the wealth he obtained, so he's odd in that regard too.
So then, I guess Piccolo Daimaou would be the moral equivalent of Genghis Khan if Gokuu hadn't defeated him?
The difference with Piccolo is that he basically wanted to rule the world to reinforce his own ego, seeing as the only things we see him setting out to accomplish are fear and destruction. Nor did he have anyone to answer to. Nothing actually productive, just evil for it's own sake, which Daimao states himself.

Genghis Khan brought countries together as trade partners under his rule, established religious freedom in a time where the idea didn't exist (He kept his steppe faith his whole life, so he had no biases there), and held no illusions about his own mortality or power, using the the Mongol Khirlitai (Spelling!) system to confer with his family and intimate government even after he was supreme ruler of his people and took great interest in seeing his sons become competent rulers after him. Some records suggest he even pondered how large and long his legacy would be. An effective warrior, absolutely, but no Daimao.

The problem is that our go-to references- and therefore biases- with Genghis Khan come from translated... Muslim and Turkish accounts I think, which, well, demonize him, because they were losing their battles badly at the time.

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At that point, there really isn't much to say to Vegeta, I guess, you're right. That whole era played itself out.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by GS7X7 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:39 pm

"The problem is that our go-to references- and therefore biases- with Genghis Khan come from translated... Muslim and Turkish accounts I think, which, well, demonize him, because they were losing their battles badly at the time."

The Mongols are pretty much considered devils by the Muslims since pretty much all Muslim lands east of Turkey and Egypt got essentially raped by them.

Of course, most of the Mongol conquerors later converted to Islam, but it mattered little in the end.
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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by theawesomepossum777 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:26 pm

I would say Bulma's mom has the hots for Vegeta more than Bulma.

I've been recently watching the Post-Freeza episodes in Japanese, and this was what basically happened when Bulma's mom met Vegeta.

Bulma's mom: Ooh Bulma! Is this your cute, trendy boyfriend?

Vegeta: Trendy?

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Re: Bulma and Vegeta

Post by soulnova » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:31 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Because Yamcha always finishes early.

Meanwhile Vegeta's Kegels are built for ten times Earth's gravity. Dude could probably use his dick for a telegraph.
Oh, are we playing this game?

Well, Yamcha's stamina was good enough for Chi-Chi, so...
Actually, if there's going to be any affairs then I think Piccolo and Chichi should have an affair because he's real good with Gohan.
In my eyes Piccoro pretty much took the role of "parent" for Gohan, specially when Goku died. I'm sure there are some fanfics out there where he "takes care" of Chichi too. LOL

On the other hand, I believe that if Goku hadn't married Chichi, she would have tried to hook up with Yamcha... because he told her she loved her. :P
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