Bulma and Vegeta

[GS7X7]

I'm just curious but do any of the Japanese supplementary materials explain why Bulma got with Vegeta?

It does seem like an odd match after years of Bulma and Yamcha together. Even her J. actress said something like that she had trouble imagining herself falling for Vegeta.

Now, the guy did try to blow up the earth, he murdered a whole city full of humans, then he killed a bunch of innocents on Namek. Oh, and he indirectly murdered Yamcha and Ten-Zu. He basically behaved like the moral equivalent of Genghis Khan or a serial killer. (and he was technically worse than Hitler since he not only annihilated entire races but even blew up whole planets)

Sure, Yamcha's kind of a "dim sum" but he's a nice enough guy and he must have earned a sweet living from baseball. Plus, he's still super-powerful and can fly around and basically punch through mountains even if he's no match for a Saiyan. And he never engaged in planetary genocide just to be a dick or tried to enslave the earth/galaxy.

[Saiga]

It's not like Bulma would have cared how much money he earned as a Baseball player. She'd earn way more than he ever could.

Also that baseball thing was only one episode of filler.

[sonikku956]

It's not like Bulma would have cared how much money he earned as a Baseball player. She'd earn way more than he ever could.

Also that baseball thing was only one episode of filler.

That Toriyama wrote.

[Saiga]

It's not like Bulma would have cared how much money he earned as a Baseball player. She'd earn way more than he ever could.

Also that baseball thing was only one episode of filler.

That Toriyama wrote.

He gave them the idea, which doesn't mean jack. It's never even mentioned again outside of that one appearance.

[GS7X7]

He probably retired with all his money.

Given how strong Yamcha is, he could easily kill Barry Bonds with one finger. So he was probably the best player out there. (or one of them)

Why the hell did Gohan even need to go to school? He could easily make a success on earth on any sport out there.

It's weird, everyone says "Toriyama hated Gohan" but Toriyama really turned Yamcha into a bitch, especially in Movie 9. And he took Yamcha's woman, now Toriyama must have REALLY hated Yamcha!

[Saiga]

He probably retired with all his money.

Given how strong Yamcha is, he could easily kill Barry Bonds with one finger. So he was probably the best player out there. (or one of them)

Why the hell did Gohan even need to go to school? He could easily make a success on earth on any sport out there.

It's weird, everyone says "Toriyama hated Gohan" but Toriyama really turned Yamcha into a bitch, especially in Movie 9. And he took Yamcha's woman, now Toriyama must have REALLY hated Yamcha!

Do you really think this hasn't already been said hundreds of times by now?

[Michsi]

For me, the basball thing is as good as canon. It makes sense, it came from Toriyama himself and there is nothing in the manga to contradict it.

As for Bulma and Vegeta, personally, her being attracted to him at all was pretty bad for her character, because Vegeta had close to no redeeming qualities at that point. I know fans love to imagine the hows and whys that lead up to them getting together, about Bulma discovering his super secret softer side, but it's hard to believe he had one seeing his behaviour in the Cell Saga and that Bulma herself pretty much showed that she thought he was a jerk and wasn't really attached to him then. However, I think they are okay in the Buu Saga and I wish we had gotten to see more of them as a couple.

[the_abberration]

I found this blurb in the Dragonbook, that came with the American Dragonbox. Don't know if this is translated from the JP source material exactly. You can take it for what it's worth I guess:

Vegeta lives on Earth, awaiting his rival's return from space. Seeing his single-minded devotion to defeat Goku, Bulma gradually feels drawn to him, and... Those two soon bring a new life forth.

[DBZAOTA482]

It's not like Bulma's a deep person anyways (at least at that point). She probably went for him because he's a sexy badboy prince badass whereas Yamcha's just a handsome yet wussass goodie-goodie (no offense to Yamcha fans) or it's just a messiah complex.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think, originally in the Cell arc, it was just a one-night stand that happened to result in Trunks' conception (before the arrival of the Androids, when Piccolo asks her where Vegeta is, she says something like, "Why would I know where that jerk is?"), but over the 7 years, their bonding with Trunks, in turn, developed into love for each other (with Blooma seeing Vegeta's "good side" when he took Trunks to the amusement park or something). It's a pretty common phenomenon, of people having children and kind of falling in love "out of convenience".

But yeah, Yamcha was really Toriyama's butt-monkey throughout the series, which is honestly quite a problem I have with the series. That he's constantly used as a plot device as the expense of his own credibility as a character. It's OK in the beginning, but once the 23rd TB rolls round, he just happens to get matched up with God and never gets past the first round, despite being a super-warrior like Kuririn and Tenshinhan. His only victory that comes close to being legitimate is against Suke-san, and even then, he needed help from Kuririn (although, I guess Baba was cheating too, so it evens it out). Then he's the only one to die against the fucking Saibaimen, the first to die when the Saiyans comes to Earth, and before the weakest of the lot: Chaozu. Then he's gutted by Android #20 and made to look like a pussy when he almost doesn't return to the battlefield because of how helpless he felt against them.

I don't believe Toriyama hated Yamcha by any means. He just lazily used him as an easy plot device, and the reason Toriyama slammed the two mismatched individuals of Blooma and Vegeta together was just so he could bring another Super Saiyan into the series.

@GS7X7: I don't believe anyone actually says, "Toriyama hated Gohan!", just that he didn't utilize him very well. And Toriyama only did the character designs of Bojack and his henchmen for DBZ Movie #9; he had nothing to do with the plot. So you can't really blame him for that, other than having already set him up as practically an inside joke that Toei obviously picked up on.

[Hades]

Yeah, Yamcha really became the Aquaman of the main cast in Z. The thing is that it was more of a gradual thing than anything else. By the Buu Saga, only Tenshinhan of the original human cast was contributory to the main fight with Buu.

[mattymoron]

It's not like Bulma would have cared how much money he earned as a Baseball player. She'd earn way more than he ever could.

Also that baseball thing was only one episode of filler.

That Toriyama wrote.

He gave them the idea, which doesn't mean jack. It's never even mentioned again outside of that one appearance.

It's actually mentioned in another filler episode in the android arc.

[DarkPrince_92]

Vegeta is a badass. Girls love badasses. Simple as that. But on a serious note, Bulma was attracted to his drive and determination (from what I remember) and seeing him work out (shirtless) maybe helped her sexualattraction, hence Trunks. Also Yamcha is kinda....meh. He doesn't work as hard, he's barely reliable, aaaannnnnnnnnnd he's WEAK.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Yeah, Yamcha really became the Aquaman of the main cast in Z. The thing is that it was more of a gradual thing than anything else. By the Buu Saga, only Tenshinhan of the original human cast was contributory to the main fight with Buu.

Well, even with that, Tenshinhan just came in with one Kikouhou to deflect Boo's blast from killing Dende, and then he just looked in horror as Boo prepared to destroy the planet saying, "Damn it! There's nothing I can do now!"

[Gaffer Tape]

Actually, it's in the last episode of the Garlic Jr. arc. Watch for Yamucha's inconsistent hairstyle! It's short! Now it's long again! Now it's short again!

[dprez]

For me, the basball thing is as good as canon. It makes sense, it came from Toriyama himself and there is nothing in the manga to contradict it.

Same here. Driving school counts for me as well, as well as a few more of the saiyan arc filler scenes. They just work so well with what's already been presented to us in the manga and don't contradict a thing.

Vegeta was Bulma's rebound after dealing with "Mr. Ladies Man" Yamucha. He was very convenient, and she was obviously very sexually attracted to his rock hard body and his royally chiseled good looks, but she seamed to also become attracted to Vegeta the person. His unyielding passion and drive to be the strongest and defeat Son-kun, Vegeta really was a very interesting guy to her. I'm sure Bulma also heard all about what went down on Namek, so she would know that Vegeta, however indirectly, actually saved all of their lives.

[sonikku956]

He probably retired with all his money.

Given how strong Yamcha is, he could easily kill Barry Bonds with one finger. So he was probably the best player out there. (or one of them)

Why the hell did Gohan even need to go to school? He could easily make a success on earth on any sport out there.

It's weird, everyone says "Toriyama hated Gohan" but Toriyama really turned Yamcha into a bitch, especially in Movie 9. And he took Yamcha's woman, now Toriyama must have REALLY hated Yamcha!

I got one word for you: Chi-Chi.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Now, the guy did try to blow up the earth, he murdered a whole city full of humans, then he killed a bunch of innocents on Namek. Oh, and he indirectly murdered Yamcha and Ten-Zu. He basically behaved like the moral equivalent of Genghis Khan or a serial killer.

Considering Genghis Khan preferred (and utilized) scaring a city into submission rather than slaughtering people and many if not most of his real conflicts were from the other party telling him to piss off before they realized who (the hell) he was, he might not be the best example.

But then he also wanted to build an empire for his posterity yet took little personal interest in most of the wealth he obtained, so he's odd in that regard too.

BACK ON TOPIC...

Meta explanation I agree with Mike's "females exist to make new males".

But In-Universe, I supposed girl's love badasses. It's not above Bulma's character; the biggest problem with it is why everyone but Tenshinhan didn't make a fuss about Vegeta's living on Earth, which is a bigger thing.

[sonikku956]

Personally, I think that even though Bulma cheated, I think that Bulma and Yamcha should of reconciled and eventually, gotten married. I really don't like how, in GT, Yamcha is still living along in the desert with a fucking cat. I mean, I've witnessed couples who've cheated and have had a different child than the other partner, and they still seemed happy.

Also, the "bad boy" excuse. Don't like it. Vegeta most likely killed billions of people.

[soulnova]

For me, the basball thing is as good as canon. It makes sense, it came from Toriyama himself and there is nothing in the manga to contradict it.

Same here. Driving school counts for me as well, as well as a few more of the saiyan arc filler scenes. They just work so well with what's already been presented to us in the manga and don't contradict a thing.

Vegeta was Bulma's rebound after dealing with "Mr. Ladies Man" Yamucha. He was very convenient, and she was obviously very sexually attracted to his rock hard body and his royally chiseled good looks, but she seamed to also become attracted to Vegeta the person. His unyielding passion and drive to be the strongest and defeat Son-kun, Vegeta really was a very interesting guy to her. I'm sure Bulma also heard all about what went down on Namek, so she would know that Vegeta, however indirectly, actually saved all of their lives.

I have to agree with you. Vegeta did notice Bulma's qualities during that time, but I don't think he gave it a second deep thought.

If we are to believe the story Trunks tells Goku, Yamcha and Bulma had a fight, he left and Bulma was alone with Vegeta. In the anime, this translates nicely on Yamcha leaving because he simply can't keep up with Vegeta's training. I think Bulma did start to care for Vegeta like in that episode but he never really did until after the Cell Games. "What's wrong with this woman?" *sexy time* "oh well" *shrugs*

He was very convenient, and she was obviously very sexually attracted to his rock hard body and his royally chiseled good looks

I can't blame her. LOL I don't know how the English dub went with the gravity room explosion, but when Vegeta comes out of the debris and Bulma holds him, in Latin-spanish he especifically says "Don't you even think on doing something stupid, woman". It was hilarious, because I always thought he expected her to take advantage of him. Maybe that's what really happened. xDDD