The Dragon Balls aren't what define the show, it's the characters, the main one being Goku.TheMikado wrote:The Dragonballs existed long before Goku and theoritically should exist long after. I'd love to see some pre Goku Dragonball action. Or Dragonball after Goku is long gone.ABED wrote:Then it's no longer Dragon Ball.DBZAOTA482 wrote:I was gonna Yamcha just to put him out of his misery but I'd go with Goku as well... he's boring now and his character is well past his prime.
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Then they should have just named it Goku & Friends.ABED wrote:The Dragon Balls aren't what define the show, it's the characters, the main one being Goku.TheMikado wrote:The Dragonballs existed long before Goku and theoritically should exist long after. I'd love to see some pre Goku Dragonball action. Or Dragonball after Goku is long gone.ABED wrote: Then it's no longer Dragon Ball.
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No, Dragon Ball is a better sounding title. There's no rule that the title should . And it's not like they aren't important to the story. They bring the characters together and are a constant fixture of the show, but the show isn't defined by them.Then they should have just named it Goku & Friends.
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I'm being sarcastic, but Bulma is arguable the main protagonist in the original Dragonball series, having both the plot device and motivation to move the story forward. The point is Dragonball can 100% exist as a story without Goku as evident by the many times he was out of commission or other characters were brought to the forefront. They problem is that Goku is popular so while the story can certainly survive without him the sales will not.ABED wrote:No, Dragon Ball is a better sounding title. There's no rule that the title should . And it's not like they aren't important to the story. They bring the characters together and are a constant fixture of the show, but the show isn't defined by them.Then they should have just named it Goku & Friends.
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Yes, she was the one with the Dragon Balls and the motivation to bring them together, but that doesn't make her the main character especially since that stops being the case after that first arc.I'm being sarcastic, but Bulma is arguable the main protagonist in the original Dragonball series, having both the plot device and motivation to move the story forward. The point is Dragonball can 100% exist as a story without Goku as evident by the many times he was out of commission or other characters were brought to the forefront. They problem is that Goku is popular so while the story can certainly survive without him the sales will not.
Goku was out of commission, but the other characters were constantly waiting around for him. Stories are reflections of their main character(s) and the Dragon Ball world fits Goku more than anyone else.
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Well that's a stupid thing to say. It's not like the series' overall themes and whatnot would die along with him. In fact, Gohan can embody the story's themes better and more.ABED wrote:Then it's no longer Dragon Ball.DBZAOTA482 wrote:I was gonna Yamcha just to put him out of his misery but I'd go with Goku as well... he's boring now and his character is well past his prime.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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And that's a rude thing to say. Disagree all you want, just be civil about it.Well that's a stupid thing to say.
No, but no one best embodies the feel of the show more than Goku. The show is about fighting, how does Gohan embody that better than Goku? Lastly, I have a very difficult time thinking of a long running story that benefitted from putting the focus on another main character after a lengthy run.It's not like the series' overall themes and whatnot would die along with him. In fact, Gohan can embody the story's themes better and more.
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I have to agree with ABED here no Gokuu no Dragon Ball.
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Mine would be Yamcha or Tien because they haven't really done much other than get in the way
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Yamcha. Seriously, that guy has contributed nothing of significance in the story since 1986.
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If you're going to kill off a character, make it mean a lot.Lord Beerus wrote:Yamcha. Seriously, that guy has contributed nothing of significance in the story since 1986.
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Then I'd say Future Trunks, I mean it's a big enough deal to make an impact but also nothing that will keep the main story from continuing.ABED wrote:If you're going to kill off a character, make it mean a lot.Lord Beerus wrote:Yamcha. Seriously, that guy has contributed nothing of significance in the story since 1986.
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Yamcha and Tenshinhan were relevant all the way to the end of the Cell saga.Xeztin wrote:Mine would be Yamcha or Tien because they haven't really done much other than get in the way
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If that's the case, then I'd kill off Goku.ABED wrote:If you're going to kill off a character, make it mean a lot.Lord Beerus wrote:Yamcha. Seriously, that guy has contributed nothing of significance in the story since 1986.
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He's really the character who has to stay, and yet is the only character who's death would actually mean anything. Goku is our last line of defense and our albeit shitty protector. If he goes, we panic. He's the one who gets shit done. When he's gone, things tell to go to hell til he appears to save the day. If Goku was dead and everything was left off to Vegeta for example, there would be a huge pressure since Vegeta usually fucks up somehow. Yet now he'd have to succeed where Goku for once fails. Goku makes us feel relief.Lord Beerus wrote:If that's the case, then I'd kill of Goku.
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TouchéLord Beerus wrote:If that's the case, then I'd kill of Goku.ABED wrote:If you're going to kill off a character, make it mean a lot.Lord Beerus wrote:Yamcha. Seriously, that guy has contributed nothing of significance in the story since 1986.
Disagree, the Dragon Balls are exactly what defines the show. Characters have their importance but they're just all part of the bigger picture. It's like medieval tales, you could say it revolves around King Arthur or Lancelot, but in fact is about the grail.ABED wrote:The Dragon Balls aren't what define the show, it's the characters, the main one being Goku.TheMikado wrote:The Dragonballs existed long before Goku and theoritically should exist long after. I'd love to see some pre Goku Dragonball action. Or Dragonball after Goku is long gone.
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Goku is one hell of a double edged sword of a character, ain't he? He's invaluable to the cast but at the same time he also contributes to the mess that the core cast have to clean up 90% of the time. Goku is such a unique crutch character, but the sad thing about this is that in-universe, he's fully aware of how much of crutch character he is. That's why he so quick to try to remedy any fuck ups he makes because he knows that if his fuck ups lead to him biting the dust, the rest of the cast would up shit creek without a paddle. They literally can't function without him.dbzfan7 wrote:He's really the character who has to stay, and yet is the only character who's death would actually mean anything. Goku is our last line of defense and our albeit shitty protector. If he goes, we panic. He's the one who gets shit done. When he's gone, things tell to go to hell til he appears to save the day. If Goku was dead and everything was left off to Vegeta for example, there would be a huge pressure since Vegeta usually fucks up somehow. Yet now he'd have to succeed where Goku for once fails. Goku makes us feel relief.Lord Beerus wrote:If that's the case, then I'd kill of Goku.
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No, the grail and the Dragon Balls are the McGuffins. The characters are what matters.Disagree, the Dragon Balls are exactly what defines the show. Characters have their importance but they're just all part of the bigger picture. It's like medieval tales, you could say it revolves around King Arthur or Lancelot, but in fact is about the grail.
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Exactly, which is why he's really the only character who's death actually really would mean anything at this point. Krillin, Gohan, Vegeta, hell anyone else can die, and it won't really mean much. Goku is the big lead. So as long as he's around, we still know the heroes have a good chance. But also the world goes to shit without him since no one else is capable of protecting it. It's why his early 2 deaths were such a big deal. First one cause holy shit Goku actually died, who'd have thought that would happen. And the other being we're left with his timid son who is not a battle hardened warrior like he is.Lord Beerus wrote:Goku is one hell of a double edged sword of a character, ain't he? He's invaluable to the cast but at the same time he also contributes to the mess that the core cast have to clean up 90% of the time. Goku is such a unique crutch character, but the sad thing about this is that in-universe, he's fully aware of how much of crutch character he is. That's why he so quick to try to remedy any fuck ups he makes because he knows that if his fuck ups lead to him biting the dust, the rest of the cast would up shit creek without a paddle. They literally can't function without him.dbzfan7 wrote:He's really the character who has to stay, and yet is the only character who's death would actually mean anything. Goku is our last line of defense and our albeit shitty protector. If he goes, we panic. He's the one who gets shit done. When he's gone, things tell to go to hell til he appears to save the day. If Goku was dead and everything was left off to Vegeta for example, there would be a huge pressure since Vegeta usually fucks up somehow. Yet now he'd have to succeed where Goku for once fails. Goku makes us feel relief.Lord Beerus wrote:If that's the case, then I'd kill of Goku.
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Zeno should be killed off. Seems very possible to me for some reason.
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