Roshi over Yamcha, will this be the new norm?

[precita]

Why does is make no sense? If Roshi wants to come out of retirement and fight, he can damn well do so.

Because it goes against his character wanting younger heroes to take over. Feels like this is only happening because Toriyama is suddenly nostalgic for Roshi for some reason.

[Lord Beerus]

Why does is make no sense? If Roshi wants to come out of retirement and fight, he can damn well do so.

Because it goes against his character wanting younger heroes to take over. Feels like this is only happening because Toriyama is suddenly nostalgic for Roshi for some reason.

Doesn't mean he still can't come back every once in a while and support them in battle, if asked to.

[precita]

Even so, I wonder how they'll justify Roshi being able to go toe to toe with powerful beings from other universes. Beating Freeza's weak henchmen is one thing, if we see him going toe to toe with characters on par with Botamo, Magetta or Cabba then it'll be beyond ridiculous.

[Akyon]

Among all the z fighters in the entire cast, yamcha and chiaotzu have the most loses.

Yamcha literally only has 2 losses in all of DBZ. To the Saibaman, and if you count it, Dr. Gero punching a hole through him. Even then the latter wasn't even a fight since Gero surprised him.

Yamcha and all the others got beat up by the Cell Jr.'s, but he was still able to help out against Cell. Yamcha also never fought Buu even in anime filler.

Sure if you only count Z, but that's mostly to do with Yamcha only getting two canon fights in Z(Saibamen and Cell Jr, Gero wasn't really a fight; guy was assasinated without expecting it.)

If we count Dragonball he lost to Roshi, Tenshinhan, Shen/Kami and The Mummy too.
But on the plus side you can add the wins for him against Goku, Chi-Chi, The Rabbit Henchmen, Invisible Man and Great Ape Goku at a push.

Chiaotzu on the other hand has lost to Krillin, Cyborg Tao and Nappa and won...absolutely nothing in canon. If you give him the Guldo win you have to give Yamcha the Recoome win.

[Yamcha upset fan]

Among all the z fighters in the entire cast, yamcha and chiaotzu have the most loses.

Yamcha literally only has 2 losses in all of DBZ. To the Saibaman, and if you count it, Dr. Gero punching a hole through him. Even then the latter wasn't even a fight since Gero surprised him.

Yamcha and all the others got beat up by the Cell Jr.'s, but he was still able to help out against Cell. Yamcha also never fought Buu even in anime filler.

Sure if you only count Z, but that's mostly to do with Yamcha only getting two canon fights in Z(Saibamen and Cell Jr, Gero wasn't really a fight; guy was assasinated without expecting it.)

If we count Dragonball he lost to Roshi, Tenshinhan, Shen/Kami and The Mummy too.
But on the plus side you can add the wins for him against Goku, Chi-Chi, The Rabbit Henchmen, Invisible Man and Great Ape Goku at a push.

Chiaotzu on the other hand has lost to Krillin, Cyborg Tao and Nappa and won...absolutely nothing in canon. If you give him the Guldo win you have to give Yamcha the Recoome win.

Yamcha vs Tien is still probably the best fight in the whole series. When we had a great show and not the flashy lights and the stupid ultra powers we got later.

[TobyS]

Roshi himself states Yamcha surpassed him, God praises Yamcha. Roshi then never trains for the saiyans, never goes to kaio samas and uses gravity never shows up for Cell/the androids.

Yamcha's being left out is Toriyama being mean-spirited to Yamcha.

RoF is comparatively OK, Roshi was there to deliver beans and stuck around. But taking him by choice instead of Yamcha is totally awful. Its bugs me AND stretches believability in in this goofy series own internal logic.

I'm not boycotting or anything dramatic but this is flat out indefensibly bad and sad to some degree.

Roshi should be disintegrated just standing near anyone who could be a credible threat to anyone else in that line up. He's so many tiers below even Kuririn/Ten it's ridiculous.

I'd be fine with no Roshi or Yamcha, I'd tolerate Yamcha and a superfluous out of place Roshi but this way round is annoying.

[precita]

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If we count Dragonball he lost to Roshi, Tenshinhan, Shen/Kami and The Mummy too.
But on the plus side you can add the wins for him against Goku, Chi-Chi, The Rabbit Henchmen, Invisible Man and Great Ape Goku at a push.

And in Dragonball we actually see Yamcha win a lot of prelim fights on-screen, the best one against that blue cat creature he fought, in either the second or third tournament.

[The_Destroyer]

It looks like he wont fight until Toriyama quits. Toei seems to like him, so maybe we get another good filler episode with him, hopefully.

[precita]

I don't see why Toei can't do something with him in a main Toriyama arc. Its not like he dictates every little detail, you can tell most of the episodes are Toei's doing

[Soppa Saia People]

I personally find Roshi a much more fun and interesting character than Yamcha in both abilities and personality, so I'm perfectly okay with this. Besides, Roshi did absolutely nothing of any importance after the King Piccolo arc, even in the filler of DB or Z. Yamcha at least had that bone throne towards him in Z, so I'm glad that one of the original characters form the old-school era of Dragon Ball is returning to prominence. He fucking deserves it.

No shit, he retired. Sorry if that was a bit rude, but yeah. That doesn't mean he can't do something important, but his new role is a bit ridiculous.

[The_Destroyer]

I don't see why Toei can't do something with him in a main Toriyama arc. Its not like he dictates every little detail, you can tell most of the episodes are Toei's doing

Yeah maybe have him challenge someone from another universe and they have an unofficial gag fight, or he gets left behind on Earth and it gets attacked, leaving him the only one left to protect it.

[TekTheNinja]

It makes no sense. It's like if they took Yajirobe instead of Tenshinhan. There's no logic behind it.

[Xeztin]

I personally find Roshi a much more fun and interesting character than Yamcha in both abilities and personality, so I'm perfectly okay with this. Besides, Roshi did absolutely nothing of any importance after the King Piccolo arc, even in the filler of DB or Z. Yamcha at least had that bone throne towards him in Z, so I'm glad that one of the original characters form the old-school era of Dragon Ball is returning to prominence. He fucking deserves it.

I agree and I don't really have a problem with Yamcha at all other than he's been a gag character ever since the start of DBZ for comedy relief. The only thing I really don't like about Yamcha is his name, I find it... weird. (That's saying something considering the rest of the characters names) I honestly don't look for Kuririn and Yamcha to fight anymore if 18's around.

[Jaetinh]

Would be great if each team had a reserve like in Fairy Tail, when Wendy replaced Elfman during the Grand Magic Games. Bye Roshi, hello Yamcha!

A dude can dream.

[Brettjr25]

IMO, this is just like pilaf gang being involved. Toriyama misses older characters and their VA so he's shoehorning them in.

Goten and Trunks are a lot stronger than Roshi, Tien and Kuririn unfused.

[namekiansaiyan]

Would be great if each team had a reserve like in Fairy Tail, when Wendy replaced Elfman during the Grand Magic Games. Bye Roshi, hello Yamcha!

A dude can dream.

Yes i have though that too. The tournament structure has to be similar to Fairy tail as well as it surely can't be only fights as that woupd be like 100 episode long. Even though that could be good.

[jplaya2023]

It seems like Roshi is once again being chosen over Yamcha for the next Super arc, similar to Return of F. Back then I liked Roshi coming back to fight and I assumed it was for nostalgic purposes but I wish Yamcha was there too. Roshi beating some of Freeza's men was believeable because most of them were incredibly weak.

But now its happening again. Even worse, its right after Yamcha has gotten some spotlight again. But it seems like they don't want him part of the action anymore which makes no sense. On all of Super's openings/endings they continually show Yamcha alongside the other fighters...yet in the actual episodes he's not fighting alongside them.

So why do they do that? And why is this happening twice in a row?

I'm more upset about trunks and goten not being there more so than yamcha. I don't get it

[Majin Jator]

Well, it's a tournament. Maybe Yamcha refuses to take part due to his ill-luck in tournaments. We are yet to know the in-universe explanation, but yeah, it's a weird decision.I can understand why it pissess off a lot of fans.

[MFR55]

F.Trunks (new)Timeline is on U6,he might not be there but I think roshi might sit this one out,and they Bring,F.trunks back as a surprise,After the whole next generation thing on the DB and the fact he was sitting out for all of Z,Bringing him back for Fukkatsu No F was weird,but this is just plain wrong

[GodKaio-Ken]

We dont know how everyone is chosen. From an in universe perspecive maybe some people declined.