The Manga delivered justice to Goku Black Arc

[simtek34]

Most of your images don't work because you're trying to hotlink to an illegal scanlation website.

Please don't do that.

so it's illegal huh. Can you suggest me what site I can use post scanlations??

viz.com has all the chapters legally up to the Trunks and Kaioshin training one so far in English.

[Araki]

The manga has become so disgustingly overrated, that i just can't stop myself from starting to hate it.

That is kind of my problem as well. Those who love the manga goes on about how superior it is to the anime and Toei sucks. While I personally found the manga inferior with only some bits better than the anime. It becomes funnier when bits from the anime they hate and blame on Toei turns up in the manga, making the idea Toriyama's.

Yeah, that's pretty funny. It doesn't help when that "vocal minority" seems to love everything Toyotaro does and twist things/contradict themselves to defend him at any cost. "Bad ideas" like the mafuba suddenly have to become good ones, lol.

All in all, i find Toyotaro a mediocre mangaka and his version vastly inferior to the anime in almost every way. In any case, let's be real here: the manga is a secondary product that not many people seem to care at this point.

[Doctor.]

Both mediums just squandered the initial potential they had.

All in all, i find Toyotaro a mediocre mangaka and his version vastly inferior to the anime in almost every way.

This is my opinion, too.

[HeroR]

Yeah, that's pretty funny. It doesn't help when that "vocal minority" seems to love everything Toyotaro does and twist things/contradict themselves to defend him at any cost. "Bad ideas" like the mafuba suddenly have to become good ones, lol.

All in all, i find Toyotaro a mediocre mangaka and his version vastly inferior to the anime in almost every way. In any case, let's be real here: the manga is a secondary product that not many people seem to care at this point.

The Evil Containment Wave is odd since fans liked the idea when they were thinking of ways to stop Future Zamasu and were happy that the anime was going in that direction, but then it suddenly became bad when it appeared that the manga wasn't going to used it. Kind of like fans who tried to dismissed Rose all of the sudden and say it was Toei's idea that the forced on Toriyama or something when it appeared last chapter that Black didn't have it.

[Bullza]

The manga version of this arc has been pretty weak sad to say. It's lacking in all kinds of atmosphere and tension that the anime version has and Black whose been the standout character of the series is entirely for him the manga.

It's made a little more sense but that's about it.

The saga was so popular because of all the mystery and speculation as to who Black was bit the manga just jumped straight into it.

[Beerus-sama]

The saga was so popular because of all the mystery and speculation as to who Black was bit the manga just jumped straight into it.

And this was terrible, it made Zamasu less smart by almost telling Zuno his plan and Goku and co. didn't need to speculate or anything...

[HyugaProdigy]

The manga version of this arc has been pretty weak sad to say. It's lacking in all kinds of atmosphere and tension that the anime version has and Black whose been the standout character of the series is entirely for him the manga.

It's made a little more sense but that's about it.

The saga was so popular because of all the mystery and speculation as to who Black was bit the manga just jumped straight into it.

Let's be real here; if the manga comes first before the anime, there would've been some mystery and tension but in the end both manga/anime format comes to the same conclusion unless the manga decided to change the identity of Goku Black. The anime made Black another zamasu which made the whole point of mystery almost pointless to say the least.

[Yomi]

I always felt like the Anime handles drama and "hype" a lot better.
There are some cases like one piece, where the Manga does Drama better.

People praise the Manga's pacing but I don't like it very much, it feels so rushed, and every single page is hurrying to get a plot point done.

The "artstyle" thing is a little subjective and unfair, Drawing 35 pages of images that need no continuity or sequence in one month is not as demanding
as what goes on in the anime.

[Avok]

I dont like Toyotaro's style that much and the manga is a butchered version of an already poor product, but I appreciate that Goku isn't brain dead like in the anime.
Some panels do look good, like Goku Black SSR transformation.

[Soppa Saia People]

The manga has become so disgustingly overrated, that i just can't stop myself from starting to hate it.

They see something new and than they overacting thinking it is better than the anime

Yes, let's just generalized everybody who likes the manga into one big group.
Seriously, this shit needs to stop.

[Kanassa]

For me, the manga is one beautifully drawn hole. With a bitching flame on the side.

[The gr]

Dragon Ball super manga and anime is like one bitch sometimes you hate her and sometimes you like her but overall I prefer the anime over the manga is not that I hate the manga but I just enjoyed the anime more but I'm gonna wait for the manga ft arc to finish just to fully judge it

[FireFly]

The manga essentially has no real perks, being a completely rushed and condensed version of a story that already doesn't explain much - it does however do certain things better such as giving Trunks' battle with Babidi more than 1 minute of screen time but I just find it a waste of the one month Toyotaro is given to draw the comic considering most of his old chapters were about as long as weekly ones. Some of the ideas it produced that the anime didn't were completely bullshit like that SSJB draining 90% of your ki should you transform twice.

[DBZ Macky]

I am addicted enough that I joined my first ever forum and created a YouTube channel dedicated to Dragon Ball, mostly Super.

I'd say that at this point, whether I "hate" one product or the other, I definitely will check both of them out whenever we get something new just to see how both products handle the same thing differently.

It's fruitless to compare the Anime to the Manga at this point IMO. They're both different mediums and heck, even different stories at this point. It's just a matter of preference.

My vote goes to the Anime though. It conveys that feeling of awe more impressively than its logical but somewhat lackluster cousin.

[Lord Beerus]

Both the anime and manga's interpretations of the Future Trunks have had there ups and down, but how the manga sticks the landing in regards to the conclusion of story will be a big factor to me as to much it how much it holds up to the anime version of the story-arc.

One thing that bothers me about the manga more than anything is the characterisation of Goku Black and Zamasu. Those characters drive that arc, and are primarily responsible for why I love the arc so much. Especially in the case with Goku Black. And how they've been handled in the manga has left quite a bit to be desired.

Goku battling Zamasu in the anime was huge a part of Zamasu descent into darkness and a very important aspect within the plot itself. After meeting Goku however and losing to him quickly in a sparring match, his views radically changed and his distrustful nature towards mortals only grew. Annoyed at Goku's carefree attitude and lack of respect, his distaste for the gods not quelling the dangerous nature of mortals evolved to a radicalism-level. Shocked at how a mortal like Goku could gain a power rivalling gods, let alone even obtaining such power, and so recklessly challenge a God and defeat him easily, Zamasu came to sternly believe that mortal life by nature is an evil. It's that meeting with Goku that also serves as the core purpose for why he steal Goku's body in the first place. The anime makes scenario with Zamasu's distrusts of mortals, and later Goku specifically, more logical because he actually meets and fights Goku and personally comes to the conclusion that mortal having that kind of power, let alone the power to challenge Gods, is a potentially great danger to the universe and a grave mistake of the Gods to let it happen in the first place. The manga just glosses over that aspect by having Zamasu's only knowledge of Goku be watching him through Godtube clips. Take all of the that development out and Goku Black loses all of his unique symbolism and representation. In the manga, he sees a few clips on Godtube of Goku fighting in the Universe 6/7 tournament is all like "Yeah. Fuck this guy." Seriously? I don't like that lack of motivation as why he would choose Goku. There's literally no point to the concept of Goku Black even existing in the manga. Zamasu could have switched bodies with anyone in the manga with how more ambiguous and shallow they make his motivation towards hating mortals. For all intents and purposes, he could have swapped bodies with Hit or Vegeta.

I also really don't like how Goku Black is portrayed as less of a menace and has more instances of grasping the idiot ball. His method of getting stronger, was needlessly convoluted and just outright dumb, when you realise the abilities he has at his disposal. I mean, if Goku Black knew how Zenkai's work, why didn't he just have Future Zamasu blast some holes in him and then heal again, to efficiently farm those cheap power-ups? If Goku Black knows that he can transform into Super Saiyan Rose, then why doesn't he have Zamasu beat him up and Zenkai his way into the form? This makes Black seem incredibly stupid, especially considering that Zamasu can heal him. So he could have done this a long time ago with Zamasu and it would much more safer and efficient. But he didn't. He decided to be a reckless idiot and hope that Vegeta doesn't kill him very quickly or that Zamasu miraculously arrived to save his ass before it was too late.

I will say that the power scaling is far more logical, or at least workable in the manga and there is certainly less fat the narrative. But that's all the manga has over the anime at this point. It just lacks that "wow" factor that the anime gave us at times.

[The gr]

I am addicted enough that I joined my first ever forum and created a YouTube channel dedicated to Dragon Ball, mostly Super.

I'd say that at this point, whether I "hate" one product or the other, I definitely will check both of them out whenever we get something new just to see how both products handle the same thing differently.

It's fruitless to compare the Anime to the Manga at this point IMO. They're both different mediums and heck, even different stories at this point. It's just a matter of preference.

My vote goes to the Anime though. It conveys that feeling of awe more impressively than its logical but somewhat lackluster cousin.

We need more people like you what an amazing comparison you did to the anime and manga

[zamasu121]

vocal minority huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9pwBTCFq0
Everyone is like ''OMG THE MANGA IS SO MUCH BETTER'', but i bet if the anime adapted from the manga, people would still say the anime is trash.
Am i the only one that noticed, how nobody calls out the fact that trunks managed to hold off ssjr black, but the anime was torn apart because trunks landed a kick on black.

my reaction

[HeroR]

vocal minority huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9pwBTCFq0
Everyone is like ''OMG THE MANGA IS SO MUCH BETTER'', but i bet if the anime adapted from the manga, people would still say the anime is trash.
Am i the only one that noticed, how nobody calls out the fact that trunks managed to hold off ssjr black, but the anime was torn apart because trunks landed a kick on black.

my reaction

I think it's because the more hardcore part of the fandom has been conditioned to think the manga is always better than the anime.

[zamasu121]

I think it's because the more hardcore part of the fandom has been conditioned to think the manga is always better than the anime.

This is probably the answer, but i still can't wrap my head around this.

[Bansho64]

vocal minority huh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9pwBTCFq0

One section of comments on one YouTube video is not at all a good way to develop a consensus regarding whether the manga fans are a minority. The Dragon Ball community is a lot bigger than that. You're making mountains out of molehills.

I think it's because the more hardcore part of the fandom has been conditioned to think the manga is always better than the anime.

This is the first I've ever heard of this. I mean, Kanzenshuu is as hardcore as it gets, and numerous people here prefer the anime over the manga.