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Post by Godo » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:04 pm

KinoFourpaws wrote:
Godo wrote:[Something about canon and originality that Kino finds not really important ATM]
Dude... is that Brendan Fraser you pasted Goku's hair on in your avatar??

EDIT: Apparently it is.

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Well, if you read my explenation there is a slight chance it can make more sense.
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Post by desirecampbell » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:21 pm

Godo wrote:Cameron Diaz could play Bulma, nuff said.
Fuck Cameron Diaz.
Godo wrote:It's better to have actors that can act than shitty acting.
Which is exactly why I don't want Cameron Diaz in this movie. Bulma's an important character and I know they're going to cast some moron for the role.

And lord knows I love Fraser, but he can't act for shit. Seriously, he's a nice guy but I've never seen him pull of the kind of emotional resonance that he'd need for Goku. That is, assuming they write a script that requires it.

Though, I'm glad your still hopeful that they'll make Goku innocent and jolly. I assume they'll make him Clark Kent.

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Post by Jerseymilk » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:38 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Godo wrote:Cameron Diaz could play Bulma, nuff said.
Fuck Cameron Diaz.
XDDDDDDDD Once again I agree with Desire. She's also not *that* great an actress herself. Plus she's too old. So are Hugh Jackman and Brendan Fraser. And I also love the guy, just totally can't see him as in that role. Just because he played an obtuse Tarzan, doesn't mean he can pull off Goku. Well I'm suprised I didn't see Diaz put as #18 like Pojo did years ago with their "If we casted a DBZ movie" article. That was just insulting to the character and almost as mindboggling as them putting down Elizabeth Hurley for Chi-Chi. :?

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Post by Super Sonic » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:00 pm

For Krillin, I think maybe a 5'0" martial artist. I used to say Ming-Na for Bulma, though she's a little old now. Still think Jackie Chan would be perfect for Roshi, and Michael Jai White for Piccolo.

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Post by FDLink » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:57 pm

I don't see how anyone could be FOR this movie. You realize that an adaptation on a property as colorful, comedic, whimsical and FOREIGN as Dragonball will most likely not get a movie adaptation as high-quality as Batman Begins or X2-- you should expect something more in the area of . . . Mortal Kombat: Annihilation.

Yeah.

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Post by caejones » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:59 am

Maybe it'll be so horrible it's funny?
Nah. Though I'd not be surprised if we're slapped in the face with specific character traits only to forget others. Vegeta is Arrogant, Goku is heroic, Piccolo is badass, Yamcha has girl problems, Krillin's a coward that comes through when he needs to, and Freeza's an asshole. o.o

I still say hope for the best. ^^ Though the abov is... well... shallow as hell.
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Post by BrollysKin » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:38 am

This is going to rock!
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Post by Xyex » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:50 am

People who go "Wah wah wah, I know for a fact that Hollywood can't take something I love and do it justice cause I SAY SO!" make me groan. Just as much as all of Desire's 'complaints' about MJ in the first Spider-man movie. Movies are movies, comics are comics, and people need to realize that they are not the same damned thing and get over it.

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Sorry. It just drives me absolutely crazy that people claim that something sucks based on fanboy ideals, things they do not know, things they can not know, and random generalizations. Hello, people, isn't that exactly the sort of thing we call others out on when they claim that DBZ sucks after never seeing a single episode of the series and only saying so cause their friends do? I've seen a few arguements against the movie that are valid while the rest are hypocritcal, whiney, fanboy spawned bashing at it's finest.

Spider-man 1 and 2 were great movies. X-men 1 and 2 were great movies. X-men 3, while not as good as the first two and wildly different than the comics, was still a fun and good movie when viewed as it's own unique thing and take on the franchise. Admittedly, they made the same mistake as the MK: Annihilation crew and tried to cram too much into the movie. Had they either left out the Phoenix or made it the central plot element the movie would have worked better.

And while I'm on the topic of Annihilation....
I don't see how anyone could be FOR this movie. You realize that an adaptation on a property as colorful, comedic, whimsical and FOREIGN as Dragonball will most likely not get a movie adaptation as high-quality as Batman Begins or X2-- you should expect something more in the area of . . . Mortal Kombat: Annihilation.
Sure, Annihilation wasn't very good. They stretched themselves too much, tried to do too much in one movie and tried to please too many people with cameos and name drops. But the first movie? The first movie kicked major-fucking-ass.

On to other things now....
The cast will most likely be a bunch of new actors that can't act very well. I wouldn't get my hopes up for anyone we've ever heard of.
Yeah, because obviously if you've never heard of them they can't act. Christopher Reeve was horrible as Superman. Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, and Mark Hamil sucked in Star Wars. And Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint, and Emma Watson were just godawful in the in Harry Potter movies. :roll:

Personally, I'd rather not have a lot of big name actors on the cast. Most of the best known actors aren't the greatest there for such roles. Some would be fine but others would just not suit any roles.

I'm really suprised that some of you can find enjoyment in anything based on what I've seen in this thread. Yes, the movie could be bad. Yes, the movie could be awesome. There's as much chance of either as the other.

As for my casting choices of more well known people... I think I said it before but I'll say it again just in case. Robin Shou as Goku, Jet Li as Vegeta, Jackie Chan as Roshi, and, though she's getting older, I could still see Bridgette Wilson pulling off an awesome 18.
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Post by Godo » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:59 pm

I agree with Xyex. As much as I want a Dragonball movie, it would be nothing exciting if it was flawless.

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Post by BrollysKin » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:05 pm

Agreed Xyex, I'm just glad I didn't say it as I'm sure there will be a big angry post from Desire when he sees it. Here here!

Edit- I actually loved Spiderman 3, I thought it was the best one.
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Post by Steven Perry » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:12 pm

BrollysKin wrote:Agreed Xyex, I'm just glad I didn't say it as I'm sure there will be a big angry post from Desire when he sees it. Here here!

Edit- I actually loved Spiderman 3, I thought it was the best one.
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Post by Godo » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:29 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Godo wrote:Cameron Diaz could play Bulma, nuff said.
Fuck Cameron Diaz.
Yes thank you!

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Post by DaemonCorps » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:12 pm

daizex.com wrote:You've probably already read it elsewhere, but it would behoove us to update with the information, as well. Via IGN (and note the update to their own report at the end):

September 4, 2007 - It looks like 20th Century Fox is rushing the long-awaited live-action movie adaptation of Dragon Ball Z into production before the looming industry strikes happen next year.

According to the Montreal Gazette, Dragon Ball Z will shoot in Montreal sometime in the coming year; while an exact start date isn't known yet, the paper reports that production is expected to be completed by next July.

Dragon Ball Z is based on the manga by Akira Toriyama, which also beget an anime series of the same name. There's no word yet on who will write or direct the picture.

UPDATED: 20th Century Fox has informed IGN that this report cannot be confirmed as neither start dates nor locations are locked in at this point.


Huh. Basically, IGN grabbed the same news that everyone else did from the Montreal Gazette, and then Fox got back with them and said something to the effect of, "Well, we have it, but let's not actually go ahead and confirm anything about the movie."
Well, I guess that's that (again). Regardless, I think I'll keep my new avvy as a little reminder of how ongoing this whole movie thing has been. (Okay, maybe I'll change it back after a week or two.) And to quote Mike...
daizex.com wrote:So basically... we're in the same position we were in back in 2002. Great. OK. Wake me up when something's confirmed :P.
Regardless, I'm sure this topic is gonna go on for a couple more pages going off on one tangent or another :P.

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Post by Da Games Elite » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:00 pm

I posted this on Superhero's Hype topic:
I have strongly mixed feelings on this.

One half of me wants to make sure this movie never sees the light of day. That part of me is screaming "THIS IS GONNA SUCK!!! THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL THIS WILL WORK!!!!!!!!!!" I see a bad hair day, a impossible plot, etc. etc!

But another half gives me a few more shimmers of light to this bleak mess. For one, I've seen worse hair dos in real life. Second, i see a few ways it can be done.

First film - have a fifteen minute prologue, then Raditz enters at the present, he fights Goku and Piccolo to the death, and that's the first hour. the next half hour is spent on training. And then spent an hour to an hour and a half on Vegeta and Nappa. However, make it so that Vegeta's presence is mentioned the entire time, reinforcing his role as the villain. Also, it might be cool if they showed him ruining a planet just to enforce his power. And in the training, they could just show Goku entering King Kai's world, Gohan becoming an Ozaru, and Piccolo and Gohan bonding. The bonding being the main event in the training. However, hint at Goku's SSJ powers near the end. And, naturally, let Vegeta go to fight another day at the end. Maybe also allude to a stronger enemy in the distance as well at the last ten or fifteen seconds.

Second Film - Namek saga and Frieza saga. They go to the planet Namek, they encounter Frieza's men for the first, say, hour and a half to two hours. And then, for about fourty five to an hour at the end, the Frieza saga. Keep in mind the entire Frieza saga is one massive fight scene intermingled with a few flash backs. And at the end here, show Goku going SSJ. Naturally, this would give enough time for Frieza's dues and the entire Namek saga where everything is explained.

Third Film - Trunks enters. You may or may not need Frieza to be mechanized and return, but show a reason for Trunks to become a SSJ. Have the Android Saga for the first fourty five minutes, and Cell for the next hour and a half to two hours (maybe two and a half hours). It would give Cell his dues while not undermining the Androids. If I remember, the Android and Cell sagas were shorter than the Frieza saga. And maybe, just maybe, alude to a higher entity in fear for set up for what would end up being my favorite of the films...

Fourth Film - MAJIN BUU!!!! The first half hour to fourty minutes devorted to Babidi and the ressurection, and the next two hours to two and a half hours purely Majin Buu's rampage in all his majesty! And at the very end, naturally, having Uub as a finale to the film...

Perhaps have Turles one of the Saiyans that comes with Vegeta or Raditz, but no more than that. Perhaps have Cooler come to Earth rather than Frieza and have Trunks kill him. But I doubt movie villains would work beyond that.
Personally, I think the chances are pretty big of this movie being pulled off even with the new side note about nothing being confirmed. I mean, if they decided to mention it, I doubt it's just going to disappear into the depths of oblivion or something...it isn't like last time. They just randomly brought it up for no reason? I think they're serious this time...

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Post by Super Sonic » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:40 pm

Pretty well said Xyex. I also agree on no big names.
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Post by JusticemilkVegetablewoman » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:33 pm

I remember the Pojo article... Back when I had a subscription. I burst out laughing when I saw Danny DeVito as Kruririn. XD I think the no big names idea would be best, but I personally wouldn't care if there were, beacause I would think most of us here would go to see it anyway. I hope Jackie Chan isn't in there. I am just glad that the idea is finally acknowleged by FOX. I was going to cry. I'm happy now. :shock: :!: :D :D :D

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Post by Godo » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:42 pm

The Lord of the Rings trilogy had a lot of known actors but still got through as a huge success. Say all you want if you haven't read the books or don't like the concept, but the majority of fans loved the outcome. Sure, they couldn't fit everything in the movies, but the major events got in. Oh, and they made Gollum funny, which was a mistake. In the books he is cruel.

But still, it's an example of fiction as a success as Live Action and with famous actors.

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Post by COCONUT MILK » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:59 pm

I think a great thing to add to this thread is...


The Juggernaut.
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I think the movie will turn out something like this crap.

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Post by Maphisto86 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:21 pm

Well it's too soon to judge whether the movie will turn out crappy or not as it hasen't come out but I reiterate that Hollywood does tend to turn these things into crap. Am I not wrong to be skeptical? :?

It really comes down to who is screenwriting this and who is directing... not to mention who is in the cast. Next to nothing has been said either than a piece of news from a Montreal newspaper. I'm actually surprised that July is said to be the endpoint for filming....then again that might be just for the Montreal shooting. I'm confused... :x

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Post by tinlunlau » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:49 pm

Jackie Chan wouldn't make a good Muten Roshi. He wouldn't make a good Goku or Vegeta either. Now, if they got Wu Jing as Goku or maybe Donnie Yen as Vegeta, I can still see a good match-up there.

And let it be known that Sonny Chiba would make an awesome Tao Pai-Pai.
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