Dragon Ball things you never want to hear again

[DBZAOTA482]

I get tired of hearing all of these dub fans constantly complaining about the Japanese version. They think that the Faulconer tracks are superior to the Kikuchi score. It gets pretty aggravating.

Where are all these people you guys keep talking about? I've never really met anybody like this. Most people I talk to outside of this site are fond of the original Funimation dub sure but they've never claimed it to be superior to the Japanese version or anything like that. It's just the show they grew up with; the version they know and really the only version they care to know. I've never talked to anyone that was like "FUCK THE JAPANESE VERSION! SHITS GAY!" Not once, ever.

I've encountered dub fans like that, a lot especially on YouTube.

[Hellspawn28]

The thing I don't get about Hoshi, is we already had AF. Why do we need ANOTHER new fake series title for rumors to work? Did whoever started that feel that the 'AF' moniker was way too well known to be fake now or something?

It been like this before. Anyone remember Dragon Ball V? A series was based on Piccolo and had Freeza being wish back to life on Namek.

[Gyt Kaliba]

It been like this before. Anyone remember Dragon Ball V? A series was based on Piccolo and had Freeza being wish back to life on Namek.

Can't say I ever heard of that one. But now that I think about it, I do vaguely remember 'Dragon Ball MXPX' rumors ages ago...but they were never on the same level as AF or what Hoshi would get to.

Maybe 'Hoshi' just benefited from all this nice, shiny new animation, that people could use to trick the more casual fans?

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I'm talking about people complaining about Nozawa's voice not fitting Goku's character. I hear it constantly on Youtube when someone uploads a Japanese clip. I'm not talking about people getting angry like that...

I've encountered dub fans like that, a lot especially on YouTube.

Why are you people listening/reading to Youtube comments. Regardless of whatever the subject may be, an argument with YouTube commenters is an argument with crazy. You don't argue with crazy! It's like trying to argue with the hobo in the middle of the street yelling about the end of the world.

My college professor had no idea who Goku was or what DBZ was until I pointed it out.

It's funny you bring that up because I just had the opposite experience. My professor and class briefly talked about Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the atomic bomb and how it effected pop culture in Japan during the late 20th century. Specifically anime. We didn't spend the whole class on it because it's something we are covering later in the semester but he name dropped Dragonball and Akira(the movie, not Toriyama).

Truth is, the generation that grew up in the late 80's and 90's in America as a whole knows what anime is and knows it's from Japan. Hell I'd wager most of them have at least one show in there list of favorite cartoons. I don't know exactly where you are from, but generally it's safe to say that anime has become an accepted part of American culture. That's not even covering the fact that yes most people know Sony, Nintendo, Toshiba, Toyota, Honda etc. come from Japan. Samsung is Korean but most people in America at least know it's not from the US.

[Hellspawn28]

I still have seen many casual people that won't watch movies or shows subs. I think that's why most US DBZ fans don't like the Japanese dub because the voices are not in English and they are not used to it. I do think the whole comments of people saying "Oh Goku sounds gay in Japanese" does get annoying. People don't show that much respect to the original source material sometimes.

[Rocketman]

It is entirely possible they find Nozawa's voice godawful, too.

[Hellspawn28]

but generally it's safe to say that anime has become an accepted part of American culture.

Wire how that happen in the US when most comics and shows from the US are not that popular in Japan. I remember being told that most Japanese view most American stories in comics and cartoons too simple and shallow compared to their home-grown manga and anime. Most US comics and shows seem to get channeled there.

[Zephyr]

It is entirely possible they find Nozawa's voice godawful, too.

That's still such a minuscule feature in relation to everything else, though. While not being able to bear a single voice actor could be justification for not being as fond of said version, that isn't really justification for dismissing everything else about that version. Which most of these people being discussed tend to do. They use one legitimate, but minor, complaint as justification for not giving the entire rest of that version of the series a chance. They simultaneously let the countless awful parts of their own version slide with very flimsy justification for it all.

[Majin Steve]

Well that's just cultural differences, in't it. Goku's JP voice sounds silly to me, I wouldn't find it silly if I were a Japanese native. They probably find Schemmel equally bizarre.

[Hellspawn28]

Seeing I'm a person who has watch many Asian films and shows subbed, Goku's JP voice sounds fine to me. I personally like both since I do feel like that Sean Schemmel's voice fits his character. I do tend to read the manga with his voice in my mind.

[Gyt Kaliba]

That's still such a minuscule feature in relation to everything else, though. While not being able to bear a single voice actor could be justification for not being as fond of said version, that isn't really justification for dismissing everything else about that version. Which most of these people being discussed tend to do. They use one legitimate, but minor, complaint as justification for not giving the entire rest of that version of the series a chance. They simultaneously let the countless awful parts of their own version slide with very flimsy justification for it all.

I can agree it's a little sad that someone could dismiss the entire original version simply because of that...but I dunno if I'd call it 'miniscule'. She's the main character, who's featured in practically every minute of the entire franchise. To top it off, she's more than Goku, she's Gohan, Goten, Bardock, and Turles as well - not to mention Vegito, Gogeta, and Gotenks by extension. If Nozawa's voice is that big of a turn off for someone, I can see how it'd ruin the entire show for someone, sad as it is. Hell, it's a major reason I can't stand Spongebob, his voice grates on my ears.

[Majin Steve]

That's still such a minuscule feature in relation to everything else, though. While not being able to bear a single voice actor could be justification for not being as fond of said version, that isn't really justification for dismissing everything else about that version. Which most of these people being discussed tend to do. They use one legitimate, but minor, complaint as justification for not giving the entire rest of that version of the series a chance. They simultaneously let the countless awful parts of their own version slide with very flimsy justification for it all.

I can agree it's a little sad that someone could dismiss the entire original version simply because of that...but I dunno if I'd call it 'miniscule'. She's the main character, who's featured in practically every minute of the entire franchise. To top it off, she's more than Goku, she's Gohan, Goten, Bardock, and Tullece as well - not to mention Vegito, Gogeta, and Gotenks by extension. If Nozawa's voice is that big of a turn off for someone, I can see how it'd ruin the entire show for someone, sad as it is. Hell, it's a major reason I can't stand Spongebob, his voice grates on my ears.

It always throws me when people say they, I dunno, hate Buffy or The Doctor, or Liz Lemon and so on. It's weird. Yet they still watch and love loads of other things in the show.

[Zephyr]

She's the main character, who's featured in practically every minute of the entire franchise. To top it off, she's more than Goku, she's Gohan, Goten, Bardock, and Tullece as well - not to mention Vegito, Gogeta, and Gotenks by extension. If Nozawa's voice is that big of a turn off for someone, I can see how it'd ruin the entire show for someone, sad as it is. Hell, it's a major reason I can't stand Spongebob, his voice grates on my ears.

I understand that, and I do find it strange and unnecessary for her to play nearly every male who looks like and/or is related to Goku. But when Goku is absent from the from the series' focus for 50% of nearly every Z arc, it just seems pretty minuscule to me. Bardock and Tullece aren't in any way central characters with much screen time (outside of 1 movie and 1 special). As for the fusions, her voice is sort of combined with Vegeta's, so it seems like it wouldn't be nearly as noticeable, and thus not as valid a complaint. As for when she's voicing the kids....she doesn't even sound the same. It's an entirely different voice with a different sound.

[Rocketman]

Vegetto sounds terrible in the JP version. The two voices don't blend at all.

But yeah, Nozawa's godawful assault on my ears is the entire reason I refuse to watch the JP dub. Everybody else is fine, but then Vegeta blasts Gohan and Goten away for a double dose of BWAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK and I'm done.

It's an entirely different voice with a different sound.

I can respect differences of opinion, but don't you sit there and baldfaced lie to me.

[Majin Steve]

yeah they sound the same to me. Isn't that the whole point of having her do them.

[JP6GAMER]

I can agree it's a little sad that someone could dismiss the entire original version simply because of that...but I dunno if I'd call it 'miniscule'. She's the main character, who's featured in practically every minute of the entire franchise. To top it off, she's more than Goku, she's Gohan, Goten, Bardock, and Tullece as well - not to mention Vegito, Gogeta, and Gotenks by extension. If Nozawa's voice is that big of a turn off for someone, I can see how it'd ruin the entire show for someone, sad as it is. Hell, it's a major reason I can't stand Spongebob, his voice grates on my ears.

In the Saiyan Arc , in the german dub Vegeta was voiced by the same guy who voiced the german Spongebob. It sounded so ridiculous that they changed him with an other (really great) voice actor.

[Hellspawn28]

I also don't want to hear how fans try to make DBZ sound like it's some hardcore show when it's uncut. The violence in DBZ is nothing special and the show would be PG-13 if it was rated by the MPPA. Dragon Ball would be PG-13 due to some of the nudity and crude humor while GT would be PG. I find GT to be the tamest of the franchise and it had no strong violence or nudity. I think Vegeta getting stab by Super Xi Shin Long was the most violent moment in GT which is hardly enough to be above PG.

[Zephyr]

I can respect differences of opinion, but don't you sit there and baldfaced lie to me.

So you're saying that adult Goku and kid Gohan sound completely identical?

[CaBrPi]

I also don't want to hear how fans try to make DBZ sound like it's some hardcore show when it's uncut. The violence in DBZ is nothing special and the show would be PG-13 if it was rated by the MPPA. Dragon Ball would be PG-13 due to some of the nudity and crude humor while GT would be PG. I find GT to be the tamest of the franchise and it had no strong violence or nudity. I think Vegeta getting stab by Super Xi Shin Long was the most violent moment in GT which is hardly enough to be above PG.

I can count more than 64 instances of nudity in Dragon Ball GT...

[Hellspawn28]

I remember Goku was nude for a small moment, but that was it. I don't remember it didn't had as much compare to the original Dragon Ball show did?