Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

[ohaimynameiserik]

Another major problem with Kaio's Funi voice is that he sounds like he's gurgling everytime he speaks, like he's got a mouth full of saliva and has trouble talking. At least in Z, Sean was a bit smoother with his Kaio voice (it was still horrendous though) but he seems to have worsened up his nasily tone for Kai, dont know why.

Praising Young's Freeza and then criticizing Schemmel's Kaio is like saying you think cat shit tastes nasty, but dog shit's delicious!!

[RazorX]

Praising Young's Freeza and then criticizing Schemmel's Kaio is like saying you think cat shit tastes nasty, but dog shit's delicious!!

There is a clear difference between them. Its not even close to the description you attributed.

[KaiserNeko]

Praising Young's Freeza and then criticizing Schemmel's Kaio is like saying you think cat shit tastes nasty, but dog shit's delicious!!

There is a clear difference between them. Its not even close to the description you attributed.

Except that they're both radically different from their Japanese version and don't really play to their original nature.

[RazorX]

Except that they're both radically different from their Japanese version and don't really play to their original nature.

True, but Linda's take on Freeza was decent as far as the dub goes, unlike Sean's on Kaio.

I should add that Ryūsei Nakao gives the best portrayal of Freeza that I've ever heard. I dont know whether my defence of Linda's Freeza gave the impression that I thought it was even better than the Japanese, but just to clarify, even though I liked Linda's portrayal, the Japanese version is better.

[desirecampbell]

Except that they're both radically different from their Japanese version and don't really play to their original nature.

True, but Linda's take on Freeza was decent as far as the dub goes, unlike Sean's on Kaio.

I, and I suspect many others, disagree. They are both terrible voices. Both of these characters need to be able to be taken seriously. Deadly seriously. What these characters say and do forge the very outcome of the universe. Young and Schemmel used voices that do not portray such gravitas on their own. This could be balanced out by acting well enough to show that these characters are not crazy, kooky aliens - but, sadly, they also failed at that.

[RazorX]

I, and I suspect many others, disagree. They are both terrible voices. Both of these characters need to be able to be taken seriously. Deadly seriously. What these characters say and do forge the very outcome of the universe. Young and Schemmel used voices that do not portray such gravitas on their own. This could be balanced out by acting well enough to show that these characters are not crazy, kooky aliens - but, sadly, they also failed at that.

I agree with that in regards to Kaio's Funi voice, but not Freeza.

With Freeza, Funimation didnt take him down the path of the eloquent and faux politeness attitude of the Japanese version. They took him down the path of being somewhat arrogant, confident and when he's losing; maniacal. Linda captured that. She also made Freeza sound sinister when he unveiled his final form; albeit with the aid of the voice filter.

[Vegeta Jr]

Am I the only one who loves Kaio's dub voice, he spends like 70% of the time laughing so I don't see the whole, 'this is a serious character that needs a serious voice'.

[hui43210]

Am I the only one who loves Kaio's dub voice, he spends like 70% of the time laughing so I don't see the whole, 'this is a serious character that needs a serious voice'.

Nope, you are not the only one. I like it, too. I also HATE the new Gohan voice. He sounds way more like a girl now! That aside, a new Freezer is very much approved by me (not that I matter). All in all, still don't care that much about Kai, (which is just) DBZ now with less stuff! If i watch it, (in) Japanese is the way to go.

[jjgp1112]

I dunno, after watching that scene where Frieza attacks the Namekian village, I've come to the conclusion that Linda Young really could've pulled off an accurate Frieza portrayal. She talked in a polite, nonchalant manner and it was awesome.

[desirecampbell]

With Freeza, Funimation didnt take him down the path of the eloquent and faux politeness attitude of the Japanese version. They took him down the path of being somewhat arrogant, confident and when he's losing; maniacal. Linda captured that. She also made Freeza sound sinister when he unveiled his final form; albeit with the aid of the voice filter.

I agree and disagree. I agree that the script and Young's performance was quite different from how the character was originally written and performed. I disagree with everything else.

I disagree with the implication that that change was acceptable. The choice to completely drop one of the key character traits of the arc main villain is disrespectful to the story and their inability to admit where they went wrong and their continuing failure to make some hard changes for the better of the series is the opposite of encouraging.

I disagree that Young's Freeza is anything but a caricature of a villain. Gravely voiced villain who talks in either a monotone or a faux-screech (not really load, but sounds loud). The only resprieve from that is when he's super gay - awesome.

[Greenman]

I disagree that Young's Freeza is anything but a caricature of a villain. Gravely voiced villain who talks in either a monotone or a faux-screech (not really load, but sounds loud). The only resprieve from that is when he's super gay - awesome.

You can't lump the "caress" scene in with Linda Young's Freeza. The Freeza there was Pauline Newstone. As much as I still hate Young's Freeza, the re-dubbed version of that lacked the homosexual innuendo and was better acted.

[Gaffer Tape]

But the redub ruined the reaction to the dance of joy, which was perfect when Newstone did it.

[Xyex]

Kaio and Freeza have been horrible in both Ocean's and Funimation's dubs. So have a lot of other characters who have NEVER had good English voices.

I'd venture to say that Final Bout feller was the closest thing to a 'good English voice' Freeza ever got.

Please tell me you're joking. If you find that better than Young's Freeza... I don't want to hear what you think would be a good English Freeza. It would probably make me want to rip off my ears.

Praising Young's Freeza and then criticizing Schemmel's Kaio is like saying you think cat shit tastes nasty, but dog shit's delicious!!

There is a clear difference between them. Its not even close to the description you attributed.

Except that they're both radically different from their Japanese version and don't really play to their original nature.

And what, exactly, does that have to do with them being good or not?

Oh, right. Nothing.

[KaiserNeko]

Except that they're both radically different from their Japanese version and don't really play to their original nature.

And what, exactly, does that have to do with them being good or not?

Oh, right. Nothing.

Nice snark there, but what I was basically saying is, that Desire did have a point. Not that they both sucked equally, but they were both given the same essential treatment.

They suck, for me, because they're both totally out of character in my eyes.

[penguintruth]

The point is not to have a Freeza that sounds JUST LIKE the Japanese Freeza, but to have one that doesn't distract the viewer with its charactature-like quality. It should just be the voice that suits the character without the viewer having to take too much notice of the voice itself.

(And no, I'm not being a hypocrite for preferring Nozawa's Goku but wanting a male Freeza... they're entirely different cases altogether.)

[Xyex]

(And now, I'm not being a hypocrite for preferring Nozawa's Goku but wanting a male Freeza... they're entirely different cases altogether.)

Not really. One's a pot, one's a kettle. They're both still black.

Nice snark there, but what I was basically saying is, that Desire did have a point. Not that they both sucked equally, but they were both given the same essential treatment.

They suck, for me, because they're both totally out of character in my eyes.

And my point is simply that the similarity, or lack there-of, to the Japanese voice has absolutely nothing to do with if the English voice is good or not.

[JulieYBM]

Nice snark there, but what I was basically saying is, that Desire did have a point. Not that they both sucked equally, but they were both given the same essential treatment.

They suck, for me, because they're both totally out of character in my eyes.

And my point is simply that the similarity, or lack there-of, to the Japanese voice has absolutely nothing to do with if the English voice is good or not.

Actually, it does mean that thought was placed into asking why the creators of the original version felt that their choice was the best best performance and performance-type for their product, that best fit their adaptation of the comic. Good dubs are generally agreed to remain faithful to the original version. FUNimation's Dragon Ball work is generally radically different.

[Blue]

I dunno, after watching that scene where Freeza attacks the Namekian village, I've come to the conclusion that Linda Young really could've pulled off an accurate Freeza portrayal. She talked in a polite, nonchalant manner and it was awesome.

I agree with this, I think she could have pulled it off pretty well if she was handed an accurate script and given good direction. Then again according to Sabat she had a hard time following the direction he was attempting to give her so either that was an excuse or there was a relatively good reason to replace her.

[jjgp1112]

Nice snark there, but what I was basically saying is, that Desire did have a point. Not that they both sucked equally, but they were both given the same essential treatment.

They suck, for me, because they're both totally out of character in my eyes.

And my point is simply that the similarity, or lack there-of, to the Japanese voice has absolutely nothing to do with if the English voice is good or not.

Actually, it does mean that thought was placed into asking why the creators of the original version felt that their choice was the best best performance and performance-type for their product, that best fit their adaptation of the comic. Good dubs are generally agreed to remain faithful to the original version. FUNimation's Dragon Ball work is generally radically different.

See, I'll never understand this mentality. The people dubbing a show should be able to have some flexibility and actually decide for themselves what voice works best for the character instead of just copying and pasting from the original. Creative license, people

[desirecampbell]

(And now, I'm not being a hypocrite for preferring Nozawa's Goku but wanting a male Freeza... they're entirely different cases altogether.)

That's not hypocritical at all - Nozawa's voice, in and of itself, is perfect for showing Goku's soft, carefree side - but Nozawa is good enough to compensate for the initial lightness of the voice when she needs to sound serious - which is exactly what Young and Schemmel failed to do.