Dragon Ball Z Being Re-edited and Re-dubbed for HDTV

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Post by Khalid Shahin » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:52 pm

Yi Xing Long wrote:
Mosaic wrote:Something I just realized... they said they're using the original voicecast.

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What are they gonna do about Tenshinhan? Will they have someone else voice him?

Aren't there other DB seiyuu who have died as well?
They have already been replaced for the newer video games, so yes, they will use those voice actors.
No. They said they won't redub for the people who have passed away, they are going to use their original dubbing.

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Post by The Tori-bot » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:14 pm

Khalid Shahin wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote:
Mosaic wrote:Something I just realized... they said they're using the original voicecast.

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What are they gonna do about Tenshinhan? Will they have someone else voice him?

Aren't there other DB seiyuu who have died as well?
They have already been replaced for the newer video games, so yes, they will use those voice actors.
No. They said they won't redub for the people who have passed away, they are going to use their original dubbing.
Won't that make for an extremely jarring contrast in audio quality? If most of the actors are redubbed in 2009-quality stereo, but some are left in 1989 mono, it would be quite off-putting. :?

Not that I'm complaining or anything, it'd just be a little weird.
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Post by Yi Xing Long » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:18 pm

Khalid Shahin wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote:
Mosaic wrote:Something I just realized... they said they're using the original voicecast.

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What are they gonna do about Tenshinhan? Will they have someone else voice him?

Aren't there other DB seiyuu who have died as well?
They have already been replaced for the newer video games, so yes, they will use those voice actors.
No. They said they won't redub for the people who have passed away, they are going to use their original dubbing.
What is your source?

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Post by B » Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:12 pm

Khalid Shahin wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote:
Mosaic wrote:Something I just realized... they said they're using the original voicecast.

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What are they gonna do about Tenshinhan? Will they have someone else voice him?

Aren't there other DB seiyuu who have died as well?
They have already been replaced for the newer video games, so yes, they will use those voice actors.
No. They said they won't redub for the people who have passed away, they are going to use their original dubbing.
That makes no sense, as they've been doing the exact opposite of what you're saying since Roshi's first seiyuu died.
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Post by Khalid Shahin » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:32 am

Yi Xing Long wrote:
Khalid Shahin wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote: They have already been replaced for the newer video games, so yes, they will use those voice actors.
No. They said they won't redub for the people who have passed away, they are going to use their original dubbing.
What is your source?
My source is Daizex. http://daizex.com/

The original Japanese cast is re-grouping to re-voice the show (where available, and unfortunately not including those that have passed on, such as Hirotaka Suzuoki [Tenshinhan])

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Post by Bussani » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:34 am

Khalid Shahin wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote:
Khalid Shahin wrote: No. They said they won't redub for the people who have passed away, they are going to use their original dubbing.
What is your source?
My source is Daizex. http://daizex.com/

The original Japanese cast is re-grouping to re-voice the show (where available, and unfortunately not including those that have passed on, such as Hirotaka Suzuoki [Tenshinhan])
I read that as "it will be re-voiced by the original cast, except those who are dead", meaning someone else will do their voice.

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Post by Khalid Shahin » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:37 am

Bussani wrote:I read that as "it will be re-voiced by the original cast, except those who are dead", meaning someone else will do their voice.
I read it as both ways. But I think I read it as they won't get someone new because I think somewhere else said they are respecting the old voice actors, so maybe those people misinterpreted it. It could be either way as of now. But if I had to choose of what I think is going to happen, I would go with the redubbing idea though.

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Post by Bussani » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:42 am

Khalid Shahin wrote:
Bussani wrote:I read that as "it will be re-voiced by the original cast, except those who are dead", meaning someone else will do their voice.
I read it as both ways. But I think I read it as they won't get someone new because I think somewhere else said they are respecting the old voice actors, so maybe those people misinterpreted it. It could be either way as of now. But if I had to choose of what I think is going to happen, I would go with the redubbing idea though.
True. It would be nice if they could somehow clean up the old voices, but...as nice as it sounds, it doesn't sound like the most logical choice.

Oh well, we'll see.

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Post by Olivier Hague » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:23 am

Khalid Shahin wrote:
Bussani wrote:I read that as "it will be re-voiced by the original cast, except those who are dead", meaning someone else will do their voice.
I read it as both ways.
That bit of news was based on the Jump article, and the Jump article didn't say anything about how that issue will be handled. 'Could be the (late) old voice actors, 'could be the new video game voice actors, 'could be entirely new voice actors.

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:32 am

Olivier Hague wrote:That bit of news was based on the Jump article, and the Jump article didn't say anything about how that issue will be handled. 'Could be the (late) old voice actors, 'could be the new video game voice actors, 'could be entirely new voice actors.
Right-o. We were simply stating the (obvious) fact that someone who is dead can't come back to re-voice their character's (or characters') lines like the rest of the seiyuu.
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Post by desirecampbell » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:41 am

I thought it implied that voicework would be recorded as needed. With only a third of the episode count it may need some visual cues to be vocalized instead.

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Post by shinmaru » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:17 pm

This post says that the number of episodes will be about 100. They will reconstruct the whole episodes.
And They won't redraw the footage in the show. Only some digital effects will be added.
How should they make 100 episodes without drawing new animation.
Sounds fishy.[/quote]

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Post by ImmortalSandwich » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:27 pm

shinmaru wrote:
This post says that the number of episodes will be about 100. They will reconstruct the whole episodes.
And They won't redraw the footage in the show. Only some digital effects will be added.
How should they make 100 episodes without drawing new animation.
Sounds fishy.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:46 am

The only thing I have to say is that I am a 21 year old who has been a fan since I was about 6 or 7 years old. I have been a fan for all this time and have collected the entire series, read every stupid fanfic (as a kid when I thought some were actually believable), I've had toys, I had cards, I've had video games, and I've had great memories. But with this, it's like...well what was all that for? They're only going to release yet another one, not so much a re-release, but they're going to change it up and make it even shorter. I know a lot of people are excited by it and whatnot, but personally for me, I just would like to say (quoting Fuel), "leave the memories alone."

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Post by Velasa » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:36 pm

I'm pretty conflicted on this as well. Hell, I love the show for what it is, regardless of its flaws. However many they cut it it's unlikely that they'll cut it tight enough for those who want an exact manga translation, and there's a lot of that silly scattered crap in there that I actually like.

If they were reanimating the series, shorter or not, all with quality stuff that would be one thing- I'd be all for that. Just taking everything we have, cleaning it again and cutting it all over the place with suspicious sounding effects touchups sounds... unnecessary. It doesn't give us anything new, it just crops up what we've got.

I'd love if we could get some more concrete information on this, to really just explain what they want to do to the series.
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Post by Kendamu » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:39 pm

shinmaru wrote:
This post says that the number of episodes will be about 100. They will reconstruct the whole episodes.
And They won't redraw the footage in the show. Only some digital effects will be added.
How should they make 100 episodes without drawing new animation.
Sounds fishy.
I'm guessing that they can cut out a lot of the filler and standing around and probably get somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 episodes without losing anything that was in the manga.

Of course, as stated in previous posts, that's just a rumor from 2ch or something.

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Post by Yi Xing Long » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:31 pm

Kendamu wrote:I'm guessing that they can cut out a lot of the filler and standing around and probably get somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 episodes without losing anything that was in the manga.

Of course, as stated in previous posts, that's just a rumor from 2ch or something.
I highly doubt they would be able to get anywhere near 100 episodes just by cutting out filler episodes and scenes with nothing but standing around. If that's all they did then I would expect somewhere in the range of 200 episodes. But really, they may not be cutting anything at all. I would rather have them not cut anything actually. If they want to do an abridged series with completely re-done animation and art direction, that's fine, but there is no need to bastardize the original TV series.

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:37 pm

Yi Xing Long wrote:but there is no need to bastardize the original TV series.
The anime is a bastardization of the original manga in the first place!

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Post by NeptuneKai » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:41 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:
Yi Xing Long wrote:but there is no need to bastardize the original TV series.
The anime is a bastardization of the original manga in the first place!

The manga's just a bastardization of Journey to the West!
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Post by KaiserNeko » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:33 pm

Yi Xing Long wrote:If they want to do an abridged series with completely re-done animation and art direction, that's fine, but there is no need to bastardize the original TV series.
Bastardize? Dude, you'd still be able to buy the show in it's original format. I'd really, really appreciate a cut-down version of the show, myself. It's not like whatever they could cut you haven't already seen before or couldn't very easily see again. It would be a more faithful adaptation of the manga.

No matter what anyone says, the Freeza saga suffered horribly from overdrawn scenes of stare downs, badly animated and drawn fighting, and several incredibly nauseating filler episodes. If removing garbage is bastardizing an adaptation of a medium in which such garbage originally didn't exist... I don't know what to tell you man.

It's pretty much what someone else here said. The anime did a lot of things that the manga did not which made the show itself worse. Wouldn't removing those worse qualities make things better?
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