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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:24 am

Goku's battle power was over 9000, when he powers up in front of both Vegeta and Nappa for the first time. (Z dub)

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

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Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Goku's battle power was over 9000, when he powers up in front of both Vegeta and Nappa for the first time. (Z dub)
This battle power in the original was "over 8000", so there's a chance that could be true.

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Ussj Future Trunks » Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:53 am

SSJ2 Goku can fight decently with Kid Buu (Filler)
Kid Buu is twice as strong as Super Buu (Dub?)
Cell can be completely unaffected by Destructo Disc to the neck and Gohan can catch them (Filler)
Pikkon > Cell > Goku > Pikkon (Ugh..the worst kind of filler)
Saiyans can breath in space (Vegeta destroys Arlia)
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Herms » Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:26 am

Kid Buu wrote:Right before Goku transitions from SSJ2 to SSJ3 he says that Kid Buu is twice as strong as before (dub), in the original JPN version he also says Kid Buu is the strongest.
I actually think that dub line is slightly less suited towards making kid Boo out to be the strongest, since "before" is a little ambiguous. You could potentially argue that Goku is saying he's twice as strong as the fat Boo he fought earlier rather than Gohan-absorbed Boo, or something like that. Whereas in the original line he flat-out says this Boo is stronger than all the others.
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Goku100xKamehameha wrote:Goku's battle power was over 9000, when he powers up in front of both Vegeta and Nappa for the first time. (Z dub)
This battle power in the original was "over 8000", so there's a chance that could be true.
If Goku's BP were over 9,000, then when he used the Kaio-ken x2 it would become over 18,000, making him stronger than Vegeta, which would mean he wouldn't be forced into using the ultra-dangerous Kaio-ken x3 to gain the upper hand.
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Rocketman » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:23 pm

Vegeta tried to run away during the Freeza fight (filler).

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by the_abberration » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:25 pm

It's not so much a line but, I thought it was worth a mention. Anime filler Krillin, has trained or at least been in a higher gravity environment on two occasions (compared to his manga counterpart):

1) The mind training on Kami's lookout. It was supposed to be real including the gravity on planet Vegeta (or is that a dub thing? I forget).

2) In the afterworld with Yamcha when kid Buu arrived.
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Godo » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:16 pm

- Kuririn is a great dresser, dresses like a pimp (filler)
- Kuririn has a chance to phase 1st form Cell [headbutt] (filler)
- Everyone in Trunks' future have swords (filler)
- Piccolo's balls are, contrary to popular belief, inert (dub)
- Tenshinhan can regenerate his limbs (dub)
- Tenshinhan sees himself as a three eyed cowboy (dub)
- There is a possibility of people actually surviving a head on ki explosion, to deploy their parachutes, and to be OK at the same time (dub)
- Vegeta and Nappa attacked Earth on a Sunday (dub)
- Goku in base stands a chance against Ultimate Gohan, and Vegeta in base against SSJ3 Gotenks. (filler)
- Vegetto in base is superior to Gohan Buu. (filler)
- Vegeta has a phobia of parasitic helminths (filler)
- Yamcha made money by playing baseball, was the best player ever, but still couldn't afford a necklace for his girlfriend (filler)
- Yamcha and Kuririn fought Super Buu (filler)
- Lunch lived with Tenshinhan and Chao-zu, who happens to be a good cook and dresses like a maid(filler)
- Kuririn fought Semi-Perfect Cell

Can make the list much, much longer... :P

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Scarz » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:30 pm

Krillin had a girlfriend named Maron who looked very similar to Bulma (Filler)
Godo wrote:- Kuririn is a great dresser, dresses like a pimp (filler)
That is 100% FACT! Everyone knows that Krillin likes to dress up as pimp during his spare time because he's a playa.

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Eddie » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:49 pm

Fact: Kuririn does a horrible Humphrey Bogart impersonation. (Dub)

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by ThunderPX » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:27 pm

Is there really any point on harping on about incorrect lines from an obsolete dub? Seriously, "YOUR FATHER WAS A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST" stopped being funny at least eight years ago.
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Perfect » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:35 pm

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:SSJ2 Goku can fight decently with Kid Buu (Filler)
Kid Buu is twice as strong as Super Buu (Dub?)
Cell can be completely unaffected by Destructo Disc to the neck and Gohan can catch them (Filler)
Paikuhan > Cell > Goku > Paikuhan (Ugh..the worst kind of filler)
Saiyans can breath in space (Vegeta destroys Arlia)
Goku is a superhero with vocab well beyond his education level (Dub)
It's never implied that Pikkon is stronger than Cell. Cell was at the same level as a barley SSJ Goku, being that Goku hadn't powered up. And even if he had, Cell wouldn't have powered up all the way, being that he was powered up to the same level as Goku for a decent fight. Exactly like the beginning of the Cell Games. There were also no sparks, another indication that Cell wasn't powered up. You'll also see he was knocked into the pond by a surprise attack, similar to Vegeta's bash against Goku's back during their Buu saga fight.
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Bussani » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:05 pm

ThunderPX wrote:Is there really any point on harping on about incorrect lines from an obsolete dub?
Considering there are still people using these incorrect facts, yes, I guess there is a sort of point. It would be nice if we could make a comprehensive list.
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by cpd12589 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:36 pm

There really are sooo many funny and untrue things in the filler scenes and dub lines. My favorite ones that I think are really funny are Goku's father being a scientist, Vegeta killing Grandpa Gohan, SSJ3 Goku holding his own against Buutenks, Kid Buu being the strongest form of Buu yet, and Perfect Cell tanking a Destructo Disc from Krillin. There's a bunch more but those are just the most memorable to me. Godo listed a bunch of good ones too.

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Fox666 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:52 pm

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:Paikuhan > Cell > Goku > Paikuhan (Ugh..the worst kind of filler)
Even when I was a kid I easily picked up these inconsistencies. And when I started to read the manga it was easy to guess which part is or not filler before you read it. :lol:

And it's also weird that Cell worked along with Freeza. I mean, Cell should be something beetween 20 to 50 times stronger than Freeza. It makes non-sense for he work under Freeza, and judging from his personality, he would have made Freeza his personal slave or something...
Ussj Future Trunks wrote:Saiyans can breath in space (Vegeta destroys Arlia)
That's not a mistake actually... according to Nasa humans live for around 30 seconds before suferring from the space decompression.
Godo wrote:- Vegetto in base is superior to Gohan Buu. (filler)
In the manga Vegetto transforms right away... does Toei couldn't tell by that that Vegetto need to transform to fight Buu?
cpd12589 wrote:Vegeta killing Grandpa Gohan
What the hell?

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:57 pm

In the episodes where Goku is training on King Kai's planet, it takes him six days to catch Bubbles. But in the Frieza saga when Goku's dead friends arrive there to train, King Kai tells them it took Goku three weeks to catch Bubbles. (dub)

Early in the series, Raditz states that the planet Vegeta was destroyed three years prior to the beginning of the series. Later on, this is changed to twenty years (which is accurate to the original Japanese version). When they went back and did the "uncut dubbed" version that aired on Cartoon Network, they still used the inaccurate "three years" quote.

When Jeice arrives on Namek, he tells Freeza he brought "the special Dragon Ball scouter." This is a REGULAR scouter. No scouter can detect Dragon Balls. (dub)

Vegeta have orange-brown-ish hair before arriving on Earth. (filler)

The "Vegeta killing Granpa Gohan" part was just an error in the Japanese dub and (IIRC) the Z dub fixed it.
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:09 pm

Vegeta Killing Grandpa Gohan was from the Ocean dub and Funi fixed it in the UUC dub
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Nippolyte » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:19 pm

- Recoome is an android (dub)
- Gohan has a pet dragon named Icarus (filler)
- Villains aren't sent to hell, they're sent to a place called Home For Infinite Losers (dub)
- Garlic "Big Daddy" Jr. returned for vengeance while Goku was on Yardrat (filler)
- Gohan once had an evil tutor named Mr. Shu that reminds me of my fourth grade teacher (filler)

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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:26 pm

Rocketman wrote:Vegeta tried to run away during the Freeza fight (filler).
Wait, what happened here? I've seen that fight since it first aired on CN.
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by jjgp1112 » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:30 pm

Nippolyte wrote:- Recoome is an android (dub)
- Gohan has a pet dragon named Icarus (filler)
- Villains aren't sent to hell, they're sent to a place called Home For Infinite Losers (dub)
- Garlic "Big Daddy" Jr. returned for vengeance while Goku was on Yardrat (filler)
- Gohan once had an evil tutor named Mr. Shu that reminds me of my fourth grade teacher (filler)
What the hell?! And HFIL is only in the edited dub. Uncut, they left it as hell (which brought the hilarious of joke of Grand Kai telling P­ikkon to go straight to hell and Goku saying "That's not very nice")
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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Re: "Facts" from filler and dub lines

Post by Bussani » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:30 pm

Fox666 wrote:
Ussj Future Trunks wrote:Saiyans can breath in space (Vegeta destroys Arlia)
That's not a mistake actually... according to Nasa humans live for around 30 seconds before suferring from the space decompression.
What does "suffering from the space decompression" mean? The effects of a vacuum on the human body aren't deadly by themselves--it's the lack of oxygen that'll get you.
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