"Facts" from filler and dub lines

[Nippolyte]

List some "facts" from filler and dub lines. I'll start off.

1. Supreme Kai is 1000x stronger than Frieza

2. Yamcha (Buu Saga) is on par with Perfect Cell

3. #17 and #18 are androids

Continue

[Scarz]

99% of the universe energy was in the spirit bomb Goku used on Namek.

[Herms]

Could we mark which things are from filler and which from the dub? Since they're not really the same thing, other than being generally considered non-canon (and Toriyama actually did contribute things to filler, as opposed to the dub). It's like having an undifferentiated list of facts from video games and fan-fiction.

3. #17 and #18 are androids

What does that have to do with filler or dub lines?

[Kid Buu]

2. Yamcha (Buu Saga) is on par with Perfect Cell

I don't see anything wrong with that.

DUB LINE: Goku's dad was a brilliant scientist!

[Bussani]

3. #17 and #18 are androids

Well, in Japanese they're called Jinzo'ningen, which commonly does translate to "android", so...not sure that's really a dub/filler thing.

On topic, there are some obvious ones that everyone knows:

• Goku's father is a brilliant scientist. (dub)
• Kaio knows Instantaneous Movement. (filler)
• Vegeta is only evil because of Freeza. (dub)
• Instantaneous Movement works by transforming you into light so you can travel to your destination at the speed of light. (dub)
• Cell can regenerate so long as any random one of his cells survives. (dub)

[xzero]

3. #17 and #18 are androids

What does that have to do with filler or dub lines?

I'm assuming it's a reference to the fact that "androids" denotes a complete absence of biological components, whereas "artificial humans" suggests--consistent with the original--that at least 17 and 18 are humans with artificial components.

[Herms]

I'm assuming it's a reference to the fact that "androids" denotes a complete absence of biological components, whereas "artificial humans" suggests--consistent with the original--that at least 17 and 18 are humans with artificial components.

Without getting too much into that whole debate, the term jinzou-ningen is usually translated as "android", and was translated that way on Japanese DB merchandise long before the series was dubbed into English. So it's not something that the dub is responsible for.

[Scarz]

Cell can regenerate so long as any random one of his cells survives. (dub)

Wait, that's not true?

[xzero]

I'm assuming it's a reference to the fact that "androids" denotes a complete absence of biological components, whereas "artificial humans" suggests--consistent with the original--that at least 17 and 18 are humans with artificial components.

Without getting too much into that whole debate, the term jinzou-ningen is usually translated as "android", and was translated that way on Japanese DB merchandise long before the series was dubbed into English. So it's not something that the dub is responsible for.

Didn't know that. I think I remember the sites like DBZOA that attacked Funimation for calling them androids rather than artificial humans, which made Krillin and No. 18's relations a bit ... weird.

EDIT: On the Cell thing, the manga explains that there is a small cluster of cells in his head that makes up his core, and as long as those aren't destroyed, he can regenerate.

[linkdude20002001]

Without getting too much into that whole debate, the term jinzou-ningen is usually translated as "android", and was translated that way on Japanese DB merchandise long before the series was dubbed into English. So it's not something that the dub is responsible for.

Well, calling them "Android No. 17 and Android No. 18" is different than saying "those androids", since they aren't actually androids.

[Bussani]

Cell can regenerate so long as any random one of his cells survives. (dub)

Wait, that's not true?

In Japanese he explains that he can regenerate so long as a special group of cells that make up his core/nucleus survive. He also says it's in his head, though, which makes people wonder how he survived Goku's "Warp Kamehameha".

[SonEric84]

Cell can regenerate so long as any random one of his cells survives. (dub)

Wait, that's not true?

I believe the original states that as long as the nucleus in his head survives he can regenerate. If you think about it that technically creates a plot-hole for when Goku destroys most of his body with the Kamehameha. I believe that the dub made it sound more like he could move the nucleus? I'm a little rusty, I haven't watched those in a while.

[Thanos6]

The dub just said "one living cell survived, and that was all I need!"

[Makaioshin]

In filler, Mutaito is somehow stronger than Goku(post-Daimao fight).

[Bussani]

I'm assuming it's a reference to the fact that "androids" denotes a complete absence of biological components

I was going to avoid saying the same thing I always say, but...there's technically nothing in the definition of android that forbids the presence of biological components. In fact, there's nothing forbidding the presence of biological components being in robots. In fact, the first robots ever in a fictional story were fully organic constructs. I guess we'd call these "bioroids" now to distinguish them, but that's just for convenience sake, really.

whereas "artificial humans" suggests--consistent with the original--that at least 17 and 18 are humans with artificial components.

I don't see how. Calling modified humans "artificial humans" makes as little sense as calling them androids.

[bkev]

-Bulma met Goku when he was 5 (dub)
-Kid Buu is stronger than Gohan-absorbed one (dub) ((note: this may be confusing, as he might actually be more dangerous in lacking restraint))

Those are the 2 that come to mind right away

[Bussani]

-Kid Buu is stronger than Gohan-absorbed one (dub) ((note: this may be confusing, as he might actually be more dangerous in lacking restraint))

I think filler adds to this further, implying that Kid Buu is the strongest Buu of all at times. That saga gets really confusing when it comes to this stuff.

[Nippolyte]

- Goku is afraid of needles (filler)
- SSJ3 Goku can hold his own against Buutenks (filler)
- Frieza knows about cats and dogs (dub line)

[SonEric84]

- Goku is afraid of needles (filler)
- SSJ3 Goku can hold his own against Buutenks (filler)
- Freeza knows about cats and dogs (dub line)

Obviously space cats and dogs.

[penguintruth]

FACT: Cat loves food. (Eee-yeah, yeah, yeah!)