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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by Kakarot88 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:13 pm

ringworm128 wrote:http://youtu.be/08DKPptyQ58?t=1m44s This scene here, Goku just sounds plain obnoxious. Only when he calms down does he sound decent and even then it's nothing special. I can't put my finger on it but the performance has no charm to it. And it sounds far too well spoken, she sounds like a little kid trying to sound like a professor. It worked for Gohan but not Goku.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by Attitudefan » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:56 pm

Kids sound like kids, not like women or men or teen females or males. Kids have a distinctive high pitched voice that sounds unlike an older person. Girls and boys sound pretty similar before puberty. Look up some videos on youtube like "Charlie Bit My Finger" to understand how young kids sound. They may slur their words too and talk with the sound of less experience. I think this is why I like Henderson so much is because she has the right tone, pitch and the way she speaks sounds believable as if a kid is speaking. Clinkenbeard sounds too old, especially for Gohan. She sounds distinctively female and an older female to boot. It's sounds as if it is a young woman or a teen girl imitating a child's voice.

I don't understand how you guys cannot see that :?
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by ABED » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:03 pm

Attitudefan wrote:Clinkenbeard sounds too old, especially for Gohan. She sounds distinctively female and an older female to boot. It's sounds as if it is a young woman or a teen girl imitating a child's voice.

I don't understand how you guys cannot see that :?
Yeah, Clinkenbeard's Gohan does sound feminine, but it's still fine. I can still tell Henderson is a woman. They still sound fine to me for the purpose of the show. I'm willing to give up sounding exactly like a child for a great performance and both are great as Gohan and Goku. Nadolny is not, that's just how I see it.
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ringworm128 wrote:http://youtu.be/08DKPptyQ58?t=1m44s This scene here, Goku just sounds plain obnoxious. Only when he calms down does he sound decent and even then it's nothing special. I can't put my finger on it but the performance has no charm to it. And it sounds far too well spoken, she sounds like a little kid trying to sound like a professor. It worked for Gohan but not Goku.
Hahahaha it's the one time I ever want Bulma to succeed in shooting him! Gaaah I'd rather be shot in the head then have to listen to that too! It'd be great if Bulma was screaming "SHUT YOUR MOUTH" while firing at Clinkbeard' Goku :thumbup:
Really, it's that bad? How does Nadolny's rasp and Krusty laugh and goofy cadence not make you want to rip your arm off just so you have something to throw at the TV?

Ringworm, there's nothing even remotely charming about Nadolny's Goku. Also, I completely disagree with your assessment about Clinkenbeard's Goku trying to sound like a professor. I'm not even sure how the hell you heard anything professor like, Goku wasn't explaining anything.
I might have used the wrong word there. Would "jarring" be better? I meant the voices sound similar and was kinda weird jumping OP to Movie 1.
That I can see. However, I don't watch One Piece, so I don't have that issue.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by Kakarot88 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:10 pm

ABED wrote:Really, it's that bad? How does Nadolny's rasp and Krusty laugh and goofy cadence not make you want to rip your arm off just so you have something to throw at the TV?
Cuz' I'd only have one arm left after having just heard Clinkbeard! :thumbup:
You say Nadolny does not sound like Simba or another scruffy kid, I think she does, different strokes for different folks.
You say Clinkbeard is good for doing jungle boy innocent not annoying and not being raspy, I think she sounds like a little girl or just annoying, again different strokes for different folks.

I cannot change your mind, nor do I want to, and you cannot change mine, so let's just agree to disagree and acknowledge that Nozawa is our favorite :thumbup:
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by Attitudefan » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:11 pm

Henderson does sound more boyish than Clinkenbeard however. She nails a child's intonation and speech patterns unlike the FUNi actors who took over afterwards.

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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by ABED » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:14 pm

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ABED wrote:Really, it's that bad? How does Nadolny's rasp and Krusty laugh and goofy cadence not make you want to rip your arm off just so you have something to throw at the TV?
Cuz' I'd only have one arm left after having just heard Clinkbeard! :thumbup:
You say Nadolny does not sound like Simba or another scruffy kid, I think she does, different strokes for different folks.
You say Clinkbeard is good for doing jungle boy innocent not annoying and not being raspy, I think she sounds like a little girl or just annoying, again different strokes for different folks.

I cannot change your mind, nor do I want to, and you cannot change mine, so let's just agree to disagree and acknowledge that Nozawa is our favorite :thumbup:
Nadolny also sounds like a girl.

Goku is a jungle/moutain boy.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by jjgp1112 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:20 pm

Nadolny definitely sounded like a little boy to me.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by ABED » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:24 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Nadolny definitely sounded like a little boy to me.
No person in the history of the world ever sounded or talked like that.

I probably should've written "You can tell it's voiced by a woman trying desperately to sound like a little boy and failing."
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:41 pm

No person in the history of the world ever sounded or talked like that.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by penguintruth » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:46 am

I've found that Clinkenbeard's Gohan sounds much more like a male child than Nadolny's. It's just that her Goku is a bit too close to her Gohan.

But then, Goku doesn't really sound that much like a real kid of his age, regardless. Even Nozawa makes him sound like he's only seven or eight at the most, when he starts off as 12.

It's the acting I'm more concerned with, which is why I reject Nadolny. She can't really act. The most she has going for her is giving Goku a bit of a wild fringe which works because he's essentially a wild child.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by ABED » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:15 am

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No person in the history of the world ever sounded or talked like that.
Do you know everyone in the world :roll: ?
I could be sarcastic, but I'll simply write that no, and I don't need to. I can safely assume that no child has ever sounded like that or talked with that cadence. She has completely unnatural rhythms.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by Ringworm128 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:32 am

When I say "professor" I mean her voice flows far too swiftly it doesn't make you think "naive boy" it could work for GT Kid Goku but not DB Kid Goku. And Nadalony sounded a little strange (I personally think it just makes Goku cute) but you act like like she was Parody William Shatner tier.

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Post by ABED » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:02 am

ringworm128 wrote:When I say "professor" I mean her voice flows far too swiftly it doesn't make you think "naive boy" it could work for GT Kid Goku but not DB Kid Goku. And Nadalony sounded a little strange (I personally think it just makes Goku cute) but you act like like she was Parody William Shatner tier.
I'm still not sure what you mean by "flows far too swiftly". I find nothing cute about Nadolny's Goku, just annoying, and she isn't too far from parody Shatner.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:52 am

To be fair, there's not really any kid that's ever sounded like Nozawa does as young Goku either. Or any of the other dub Goku's, either, really. It's just one of those things about having women play little boys - it works great from a voice-over perspective, but I've yet to hear a performance where you can't clearly tell it's a woman if you pay attention.

That aside, looks like I haven't answered this myself, though I could have sworn I had...anyway, I'm pretty much equal between Nadolny and Nozawa for young Goku. I'm among those that thinks Nadolny really makes the role her own and gives an enjoyable performance, showcasing both Goku's cuteness and his naivety. I seem to recall her being particularly good in movie 4's dub.
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Gyt Kaliba wrote:To be fair, there's not really any kid that's ever sounded like Nozawa does as young Goku either. Or any of the other dub Goku's, either, really. It's just one of those things about having women play little boys - it works great from a voice-over perspective, but I've yet to hear a performance where you can't clearly tell it's a woman if you pay attention.

That aside, looks like I haven't answered this myself, though I could have sworn I had...anyway, I'm pretty much equal between Nadolny and Nozawa for young Goku. I'm among those that thinks Nadolny really makes the role her own and gives an enjoyable performance, showcasing both Goku's cuteness and his naivety. I seem to recall her being particularly good in movie 4's dub.
Still, Nozawa sounds infinitely more natural as Goku than Nadolny. I'm not talking about the voice as much as her delivery.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by Ringworm128 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:00 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:To be fair, there's not really any kid that's ever sounded like Nozawa does as young Goku either. Or any of the other dub Goku's, either, really. It's just one of those things about having women play little boys - it works great from a voice-over perspective, but I've yet to hear a performance where you can't clearly tell it's a woman if you pay attention.

That aside, looks like I haven't answered this myself, though I could have sworn I had...anyway, I'm pretty much equal between Nadolny and Nozawa for young Goku. I'm among those that thinks Nadolny really makes the role her own and gives an enjoyable performance, showcasing both Goku's cuteness and his naivety. I seem to recall her being particularly good in movie 4's dub.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:02 am

Ahh, all right. The delivery is debatable at least, I mistook your post for suggesting Nozawa actually sounded any more like a kid than Nadolny did. My mistake. ^_^;
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Post by Ajay » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:56 am

I really struggle to settle with anyone on this question. No one can quite get that childlike goofiness that Nozawa nailed.

I'd probably go with Henderson but it's a little too much like her Gohan so it's more calm and collected than what is really suitable for Goku.

I can't get on board with Nadolny. Something about her delivery just feels wrong and at times, it's just plain bad.

I think Clinkenbeard is fantastic at being goofy and getting the charm of Goku right but the actual voice is a bit too raspy and suffers from the man-child voices that Trunks has.

And...then there's Zoey Sulsar who is as wooden as they come, has the man-child voice and nails none of Goku's traits.
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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:10 am

I can safely assume that no child has ever sounded like that
And what man sounded like Mark Satan or what kid sounded like almost all of Kid Goku's voices

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Re: Favorite English voice for Kid Goku?

Post by ABED » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:47 am

Mr. Satan is meant to be an over the top wrestler type, and both the dub voice and Gori are great. Nadolny, not so much. Besides, pointing out another character as sounding unnatural isn't an argument in Nadolny's favor.

It's not so much the voice at is the delivery. Her cadence is so awful and unnatural.
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