Vegeta flipping off

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:15 am

Uh, am I in the right forum? I coulda sworn this place was for Dragonball. CALL ME CRAZY. Can we all just can the WWII talk before the staff has to step in? It's embarrassing for the rest of us.

So...Vegeta, middle fingers. Yamcha, many others. I don't know what to say really. This topic is someone exhausted of interest.

I find it humorous that Tenshinhan returned the finger by breaking Yamcha's leg.

COCONUT MILK · Post by **COCONUT MILK** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:25 am

SaiyaMel wrote:Guess Guku and Gohan are too pure to flip the bird.. and it's hard to tell if Piccolo's doing it.

Does that mean that vegeta is to pure too..

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:04 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:It was just as much the stubborness of Japan's military leaders that caused the bombings. Remember, it took *2* bombs.

You didn't read the link I gave you, right? ^^;

my point earlier that you quoted me on, was made more to show the original poster that his argument with comparing the Iraq War with the Second World War makes absolutely no sense. He was making it seem like the Americans were these awful war tyrants during their fight with the Japanese.

It's just that US war crimes are glossed on quite a bit...
Like it was pointed out in the link I provided above, if Germany had developed and used the two atomic bombs prior to its defeat, it would probably have been called a "crime against humanity"...

I understand that you seem to often feel you should play "devil's advocate" in debates, but don't mistake a person's ignorance and generalization of a subject by defending them.

I'm not saying I completely agree with COCONUT MILK or the way he puts things, but there's definitely an argument to be made against the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That's all I wanted to say. And if that's playing "devil's advocate", well damn.

Anyway, yes, it's completely off-topic, sorry. I just thought the opposite argument really had to be made.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:41 pm

DragonBall? WW2 war crimes?

DragonBall!

Please? *weeps*

Drunken Master · Post by **Drunken Master** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:55 pm

DemonKingPiccolo wrote:
wolf wrote:There is also a page in the manga of a drawing Toriyama-sensei did where everyone is flipping of Cell but it got edited. Forgot what it looked like now. If only I had a screencap.
Drunken Master's avatar is Tenshinhan flipping Cell of.

Haha, nice.

Anyhow, for every action, there is a reaction. They bombed Pearl Harbor, and they should have known something was going to happen. I don't want to say they deserved it, but well...basically it. Civilians had nothing to do with it though sadly.

SaiyaMel · Post by **SaiyaMel** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:58 pm

COCONUT MILK wrote:
SaiyaMel wrote:Guess Guku and Gohan are too pure to flip the bird.. and it's hard to tell if Piccolo's doing it.
Does that mean that vegeta is to pure too..

lol I mean righteous.

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:53 pm

FUCK!

I was only referring to the wrong choice of words Coco made too express himself and now it has turned into a WWII debate!

SHIT!

Control yourselves!

ASS!

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:19 pm

Godo wrote:I was only referring to the wrong choice of words Coco made too express himself

Is "rape" too strong for an atomic bombing, really? ^^;

and now it has turned into a WWII debate!

It's apparently over. No need to curse/yell about it now.

COCONUT MILK · Post by **COCONUT MILK** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:19 pm

I think Drunken Master's ava says all that needs to be said about this topic lol.

I still don't get this bird thing, where is this bird?

SuperVegito17 · Post by **SuperVegito17** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:23 am

yup vegeta flips of at the Namek villagers when he attacks the Namekians of the village which had the 4 star dragonball

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:36 pm

SuperVegito17 wrote:yup vegeta flips of at the Namek villagers when he attacks the Namekians of the village which had the 4 star dragonball

Huh? I thought the scene in question was near the Grand Elder's place several episodes later, with Vegeta's gesture directed at Kuririn rather than the Namekians.

He does it while in the village, too? I need to rewatch those episodes, because I don't remember that.

~Da Lemmy

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:48 am

Olivier Hague wrote:
Godo wrote:I was only referring to the wrong choice of words Coco made too express himself
Is "rape" too strong for an atomic bombing, really? ^^;

Yes.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:18 am

Rocketman wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:Is "rape" too strong for an atomic bombing, really? ^^;
Yes.

I wouldn't consider rape worse than an atomic bombing, so we'll have to disagree about that, I guess.

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:48 am

Olivier Hague wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Olivier Hague wrote:Is "rape" too strong for an atomic bombing, really? ^^;
Yes.
I wouldn't consider rape worse than an atomic bombing, so we'll have to disagree about that, I guess.

My opinion is that "rape" doesn' fit at all to describe a huge chapter in Japan's history leaving many people dead.
The same counts for Pearl Harbor. It would be inappropriate to say "The Japanese raped the soldiers in Pearl Harbor with their atom-bombs".

Using "rape" to describe what happened is immature and wrong.
It should be used where it fits most, as an sexual assault:

Dictionary.org wrote:rape1 /reɪp/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[reyp] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
–noun
1. the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
3. statutory rape.
4. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
5. Archaic. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
–verb (used with object)
6. to force to have sexual intercourse.
7. to plunder (a place); despoil.
8. to seize, take, or carry off by force.
–verb (used without object)
9. to commit rape.

And before someone says "it says carry off there too!!!111"; wouldn't it just be better to use "carry off" instead?

And yeah, my use of swearwords before is nonetheless immature to, but I admit that.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:51 am

Godo wrote:My opinion is that "rape" doesn' fit at all to describe a huge chapter in Japan's history leaving many people dead.

Oh, it doesn't fit, indeed. I agree about that.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:11 am

Olivier Hague wrote:I wouldn't consider rape worse than an atomic bombing, so we'll have to disagree about that, I guess.

I wouldn't consider an a-bombing worse than the Red Giant Sun engulfing the charred and ruined Earth, either, but I wouldn't use the first term to describe the second.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:28 am

This is why characters in most american cartoons only have 4 fingers.

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:35 am

Rocketman wrote:I wouldn't consider an a-bombing worse than the Red Giant Sun engulfing the charred and ruined Earth, either, but I wouldn't use the first term to describe the second.

But you did say that you considered "rape" too strong for an atomic bombing. Not "inadequate" or anything. "Too strong."
I think that's interesting.

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:58 am

Not that I can't appreciate a cerebral debate of this nature, but . . . is there any DragonBall left in this thread, or . . . ?

~Da Lemmy

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:01 am

Li'l Lemmy wrote:Not that I can't appreciate a cerebral debate of this nature, but . . . is there any DragonBall left in this thread, or . . . ?

~Da Lemmy

No. I wouldn't think so.

Kanzenshuu

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