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Post by KillerCory » Sun May 18, 2008 12:45 pm

Are the song vocals intact in the Japanese track?

The pictures do look nice and for once the choice to use 16:9 is the correct one.
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Post by desirecampbell » Sun May 18, 2008 12:48 pm

ultimateemail5000 wrote:I am assuming the bottom picture is the DBOX edition, since the colors look really foggy. So I can say that the stateside release looks a hell of a lot better then the DBOX.
I disagree, the over-saturation makes everything look like it's glowing, and you can't see Goku's hair at all because of the darkening.

Removing the grain doesn't matter at all to me, but the colour changes mean strangely vibrant images, colour differences between scenes, and loss of detail (usually dark stuff, like Goku's hair, or Piccolo's inner ear).

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 18, 2008 1:05 pm

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ultimateemail5000 wrote:I am assuming the bottom picture is the DBOX edition, since the colors look really foggy. So I can say that the stateside release looks a hell of a lot better then the DBOX.
I disagree, the over-saturation makes everything look like it's glowing, and you can't see Goku's hair at all because of the darkening.

Removing the grain doesn't matter at all to me, but the colour changes mean strangely vibrant images, colour differences between scenes, and loss of detail (usually dark stuff, like Goku's hair, or Piccolo's inner ear).
It doesn't look like it's glowing... And if you look closely you can still see goku's hair. I personally like the colors more, and the picture is clearer. The Dragon Box one is just too faded for my taste. Plus you get more picture than the Box's so that is another plus. I would definitely take these over the over-priced Dragon Boxes any day. If only the series was remastered this well...
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Post by Raki » Sun May 18, 2008 1:09 pm

I'll buy these new sets,and still try buy the DBox movie releases.
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Post by Kaboom » Sun May 18, 2008 2:01 pm

MagicBox wrote: Glad to see that the commentary has been kept as well. Now there's no reason for me to keep my old "First Strike" DVDs.
Same here, awesome news. No point in "pre"-ordering or anything now, so the very day I see this (along with Season 5) show up in stores, it's [/i]mine[/i]. Then I can look into selling my First Strike set as well, since now that I picked up the Pioneer release of Movie 3, I'll have vastly-superior versions of everything it contains.

FUNi's got a good thing going with these remastered movies; I plan to do the same thing as they keep releasing them; pick up the nifty new Remastered versions, and sell my old ones.

As for Broly, what I would do is package movies 7 and 9 together in one tin, then release all 3 Broly movies together as a slightly more-expensive "triple feature." Then finally, 12 and 13 would be together. I know I would go for buying something like that.

That'd probably make too much sense for FUNi, but we'll see. After all, since they're doing "double feature" releases with an odd-numbered amount of movies, they'll end up having to do something special at some point.
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Post by Li'l Lemmy » Sun May 18, 2008 2:14 pm

SSJ Kaboom wrote:After all, since they're doing "double feature" releases with an odd-numbered amount of movies, they'll end up having to do something special at some point.
Either that, or they'll end up packaging Movie 13 with the GT Special.


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Post by Vekurotto » Sun May 18, 2008 2:15 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
desirecampbell wrote:
ultimateemail5000 wrote:I am assuming the bottom picture is the DBOX edition, since the colors look really foggy. So I can say that the stateside release looks a hell of a lot better then the DBOX.
I disagree, the over-saturation makes everything look like it's glowing, and you can't see Goku's hair at all because of the darkening.

Removing the grain doesn't matter at all to me, but the colour changes mean strangely vibrant images, colour differences between scenes, and loss of detail (usually dark stuff, like Goku's hair, or Piccolo's inner ear).
It doesn't look like it's glowing... And if you look closely you can still see goku's hair. I personally like the colors more, and the picture is clearer. The Dragon Box one is just too faded for my taste. Plus you get more picture than the Box's so that is another plus. I would definitely take these over the over-priced Dragon Boxes any day. If only the series was remastered this well...
Well there's a world of difference in a screencap and the video flowing in motion. From personal experience, the Dragonbox versions of the movies in motion look amazing and everything looks "right". I can't say the same thing for Funi's version right now because I haven't seen this re-re-re-release and quite frankly I probably won't plan on buying it because I've already have the First Strike set and it suffices for me. But in the end, I can't say we can fully judge these until we see them in motion.
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Post by ect5150 » Sun May 18, 2008 2:40 pm

ultimateemail5000 wrote:I am assuming the bottom picture is the DBOX edition, since the colors look really foggy.
It is DragonBox. This is case with every comparison pic. FUNI has the contrast/vibrance bumped up for some reason. But as has been shown in every comparison thread ever on the forums, it is always done so at the expense of other details in the pictures.

By the way, enough of DBox vs Season Set... it never turns out well.
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Post by theoriginalbilis » Sun May 18, 2008 3:26 pm

KillerCory wrote:Are the song vocals intact in the Japanese track?

The pictures do look nice and for once the choice to use 16:9 is the correct one.
Yes. Everything audio-wise is intact for the Japanese track.

Yes, I was expecting crappy video transfers like the Season Sets, but these movies/TV specials remasters look really nice. And there's even a slight benefit of the FUNi releases having slightly more of the image on the sides than the DBox video.
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Post by DaemonCorps » Sun May 18, 2008 3:27 pm

While it's good to know that FUNi's current double feature releases are doing well, I don't want to double dip with Movie 1, so I'll probably end up hunting down the First Strike release of Movie 2 (I've seen it sold solo a couple times, but always forgot whether Movie 2 was "World's Strongest" or "Tree of Might").

I'll definitely pick up the release for movies 3/4 and 5/6, though. My DBZ DVDs look so mismatched, that I don't mind having further inconsistencies in box art.

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Post by Vegard Aune » Sun May 18, 2008 3:32 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:As for Broly, what I would do is package movies 7 and 9 together in one tin, then release all 3 Broly movies together as a slightly more-expensive "triple feature." Then finally, 12 and 13 would be together. I know I would go for buying something like that.
I agree. That would also make buying Movie 11 somewhat more justifiable. (In case you didn't know, I thought Movie 11 was total crap.)
And these DVDs look pretty good. Unlike the series, I might actually buy these.

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Post by shotkeeper » Sun May 18, 2008 4:24 pm

Li'l Lemmy wrote:
SSJ Kaboom wrote:After all, since they're doing "double feature" releases with an odd-numbered amount of movies, they'll end up having to do something special at some point.
Either that, or they'll end up packaging Movie 13 with the GT Special.


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yeah I think they will do GT special with movie 13, but since there is a GT box planned for June, it won't be logical to release the Special so late. Anyways I'm buying any Remastered release and no Manga :( .

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 18, 2008 4:31 pm

Wasn't that just a rumor though?
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Post by MagicBox » Sun May 18, 2008 4:33 pm

shotkeeper wrote:yeah I think they will do GT special with movie 13, but since there is a GT box planned for June, it won't be logical to release the Special so late.
There isn't going to be a GT boxset released in June. FUNimation has already announced all of their DVDs from now until the end of August, and there's been no word of a Dragon Ball release past season five and the movie double features yet. If we were getting a GT remastered set next month, we would have heard something months ago.

There's probably one planned, but we won't be getting it until September at the earliest if it is.
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Post by shotkeeper » Sun May 18, 2008 5:16 pm

Oh, wow. So now I can buy the Manga.

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Post by ultimateemail5000 » Sun May 18, 2008 10:50 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
ultimateemail5000 wrote:I am assuming the bottom picture is the DBOX edition, since the colors look really foggy. So I can say that the stateside release looks a hell of a lot better then the DBOX.
I disagree, the over-saturation makes everything look like it's glowing, and you can't see Goku's hair at all because of the darkening.

Removing the grain doesn't matter at all to me, but the colour changes mean strangely vibrant images, colour differences between scenes, and loss of detail (usually dark stuff, like Goku's hair, or Piccolo's inner ear).
I totally disagree with you. I hate the DBOX footage and pictures that I see, because everything looks foggy. You can back up with all the pictures and comparisons, and I will still strongly disagree with you. If anything is glowing in those comparison shots of movie 2, it would be Funi's screencap becuase, everything looks clear, and it's even brighter. As the DBOX is just purely foggy looking, fuzz is everywhere. The only reason why you enjoy it so much is because it's "from Japan." If that was the Funimation master, and Toei released widescreen, I'm sure you'd be all like "Funimation sucks, Toei rocks, becuase it's the Japanese release!Yeah!", and I'm sure you're not the only one who would think the same way. As for me, I go for whatever is affordable, and to me, importing a DBOX single is not worth 40-60 dollars.

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Post by Snail » Sun May 18, 2008 11:22 pm

ultimateemail5000 wrote: The only reason why you enjoy it so much is because it's "from Japan." If that was the Funimation master, and Toei released widescreen, I'm sure you'd be all like "Funimation sucks, Toei rocks, becuase it's the Japanese release!Yeah!", and I'm sure you're not the only one who would think the same way. As for me, I go for whatever is affordable, and to me, importing a DBOX single is not worth 40-60 dollars.
I find this comment to be pure and utter nonsense. Where are we here? This is not a half assed moderated website/forum where anything goes, and there is no logic or sense to most of the comments on the board. I am no expert, but I am not dimwitted to the point where I will not accept that technically the DBox footage was handled far, FAR better than how FUNi has handled it. Mind you, I'm not pulling a fit against your comment because I disagree with your opinion upon which of the 'remasters' are better. I'm a little peeved because you actually think that some of us are the type to say " OMG IT'S FROM JAPAN IT IS THE ULTIMATE! ".

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In short, those who admire the Dbox movies, and series love it because it was handled well, and not " cause' it's from Japan kekeke. "

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Post by ultimateemail5000 » Sun May 18, 2008 11:37 pm

I'm sorry about that, but a lot of the times when I read people just bashing the Funi editions becuase these DBOXes "are just so great." I started this thread to talk about the FUNIMATION EDITION, not to compare them to the DBOX. It's like everytime somebody brings up the Funimation release, somebodies got to be right there to bash Funimation and say the DBOX is way better because they're supposibly better in all kinds of ways, even though the quality is foggy, and it's in mono sound(just the movies from what I know), but you know, they're still way better I guess.

I don't own any of the DBOXes, but I remember somebody on this forum saying they were upset when they got the DragonBox Movie set, and saw mono sound on the back of the box.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sun May 18, 2008 11:46 pm

Snail wrote:In short, those who admire the Dbox movies, and series love it because it was handled well, and not " cause' it's from Japan kekeke. "
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Post by Vekurotto » Mon May 19, 2008 12:40 am

ultimateemail5000 wrote:it's in mono sound(just the movies from what I know)
Actually the movies' version audio have the SFX and music remastered into stereo. Combine that with the already cleaner audio quality and the Dragonbox versions of the movies really sound like they're in stereo. So yeah they are still mono, but the audio quality for the Japanese audio is of a much higher quality than what's on Funi's releases both movies and TV series, if that's what you are saying from your post. It's not like Funi couldn't remaster the Japanese audio to an acceptable status either but they think that people only watch the dub on their Dragonball products so...
ultimateemail5000 wrote:I don't own any of the DBOXes, but I remember somebody on this forum saying they were upset when they got the DragonBox Movie set, and saw mono sound on the back of the box.
Yeah like I said you can't make judgements if you haven't seen it in motion. I'm not trying to be mean or anything but you simply can't say that "OMG *this one* is so much better than *that one*!" on a release of two versions of a movie that you don't even have. In the end, you sound stupid because you don't know what you're talking about. Especially when you went through the trouble of making it sound like you did. And really that applies to all of us. That's why I'm saving my comments about the remastering of the movies until I can possibly get my hands on it and make some comparisons, but right now I plain don't have anything to say other than that I do know that the Dragonbox version of these movies look amazing and the Funi version seems to look great and a whole lot better than pre-remastering, unlike the TV series, even without looking at the old versions. But that's all I've got. If both releases are good, which so far it's turning out to be, then they're both good.

Oh BTW, does anybody want to see any comparisons from the First Strike set of the two movies to see how much junk and shit was cleaned up? I've got the set and if somebody with this new set can give me some to compare to I'll be more than glad.
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