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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:00 pm

Honestly if I see any copy of the DBE I feel the need to destroy it. I sat there awestruck after I finished that worthless piece of shit. Its far lower on the shitty scale that 8,001 copies of Sonic 06. I just f***ing hate that movie . :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:32 pm

I find DBE watchable compare to Magic Begins. I only seen the dub of that movie and it was awful. The CG for that movie was made in 2007 and it looks like it was made in the early 90's. The Last Starfighter (1984) had better looking CG then The Magic Begins did in my opinion.
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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:10 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Honestly if I see any copy of the DBE I feel the need to destroy it. I sat there awestruck after I finished that worthless piece of shit. Its far lower on the shitty scale that 8,001 copies of Sonic 06. I just f***ing hate that movie . :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
There is no way that movie falls lower than Sonic 06. I mean don't get me wrong, DBE is bad, like really bad. But I'd sooner put it in the same camp as the first Street Fighter movie than with something Sonic 06(or the Chun-Li Street Fighter Movie). DBE has that it's so fucking bad it's fun; especially if you've had a few drinks in you(legally of course) and are in the company of friends. My lack of anger towards this movie might also be because I saw it with my girlfriend on our second year anniversary, and I've completely forgiven the actors because of the show Shameless.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:15 am

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Honestly if I see any copy of the DBE I feel the need to destroy it. I sat there awestruck after I finished that worthless piece of shit. Its far lower on the shitty scale that 8,001 copies of Sonic 06. I just f***ing hate that movie . :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
There is no way that movie falls lower than Sonic 06. I mean don't get me wrong, DBE is bad, like really bad. But I'd sooner put it in the same camp as the first Street Fighter movie than with something Sonic 06(or the Chun-Li Street Fighter Movie). DBE has that it's so fucking bad it's fun; especially if you've had a few drinks in you(legally of course) and are in the company of friends. My lack of anger towards this movie might also be because I saw it with my girlfriend on our second year anniversary, and I've completely forgiven the actors because of the show Shameless.
I can at least can some enjoyment out of Sonic 06 with its music and to be fair its not as bad as some people think it is. It's bad but its not DBE bad. DBE is all bad. Although from what Iv'e heard the Last Airbender movie is worse.
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Post by SparkyPantsMcGee » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:39 am

Oh yea The Last Air Bender was a lot worse. Not a whole lot of redeeming qualities to it. Also I can't, just can't, play Sonic '06. It's like the epitome of what not to do with games but that's a subject for another day.


On another note, it's kind of the opposite of what this thread is asking but I kind of want to meet someone who genuinely thinks DBE is a good movie, and I want to hear why.
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Post by AnzuMazaki » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:40 am

Hmmm....character bashing quotes, that's what I'd like to never hear again.

EG: Yamcha is useless and all he does is die....

Yamcha is so weak he can't even do the plumbing...

Yamcha's a horrible fighter and he dosen't do anything

"Bulma washed her wounds that Yamcha gave her from his beating after she caught him having sex with twenty prostitutes."

Chichi is such a bitch, she's a controlling annoying harpy

I hate Chichi all she cares about is Gohan's homework and dosen't care if the world is destroyed...

Chaozu is only slightly less useless than Yamcha but he is still pretty useless....

Tien, Yamcha and Chaozu are all useless and all they ever do is get beaten up and die (ignores Dragonball and only pays attention to Z)

and many more hate quotes....
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Post by Gonstead » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:21 am

Android 16 is a robot, so he should sound like one.

Mixing Japanese terms within English writing when writing a fanfic. You either write it in full Japanese or full English, not a combo of the two! I don't care if you think "Hai" sounds better than "Yes" or if using "Tousan/Otousan" is better than "Father/Daddy", if you're writing in English, you write using English terms.

Not so much "Hear" but these are things I never want to "See" again.

Fanfic cliches... oh boy do I have a list of them I NEVER want to see!

- The 3 year gap on how Vegeta and Bulma conceived Trunks.
- Gohan being depressed and angsty over Goku being dead after the Cell Games.
- Bitchy ChiChi bashing.
- Goku/Vegeta fics. UGH!
- Characters paired with OC's. For fruits there are too many of these!
- OC's related to the main characters.
- "Another Saiyan who survived Planet Vegeta being destroyed"
- High School setting for the main characters.
- Songfics.

Plenty more if I could remember them...
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:17 pm

GT to me is worst then DBE since GT did pretty much killed the franchise which is why I compare it to Batman & Robin before. I think GT had better ratings and better merchandise sells then the series would have most likely continued after 1997. DBE did nothing to the franchise other then maybe ruining the chances of Dragon Ball being made into live action again.

Speaking of DBE, I'm sick of people talking about how they hope for a sequel. The movie came out nearly 4 years ago and I think a sequel is not going to happen. The movie didn't make enough for a sequel. Movies tend to triple back their budget to get a sequel. If DBE's budget is around 30 or 40 million (Not counting marketing) then DBE would have to gross over 100 million world wide to get a sequel. Even if it did then we don't know if it would have got a sequel since not every movie that made a lot of money get sequels. Godzilla (1998), Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes and Hulk (2003) made a good amount of money, but no sequel was made since everyone hated the first movie.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:27 pm

I hear Dragon Ball GT was so much of a dud that it not only damaged the franchise but it contributed majority in nearly bringing down the entire anime industry in Japan.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:33 pm

AnzuMazaki wrote:Hmmm....character bashing quotes, that's what I'd like to never hear again.

EG: Yamcha is useless and all he does is die....

Yamcha is so weak he can't even do the plumbing...

Yamcha's a horrible fighter and he dosen't do anything

"Bulma washed her wounds that Yamcha gave her from his beating after she caught him having sex with twenty prostitutes."

Chichi is such a bitch, she's a controlling annoying harpy

I hate Chichi all she cares about is Gohan's homework and dosen't care if the world is destroyed...

Chaozu is only slightly less useless than Yamcha but he is still pretty useless....

Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaozu are all useless and all they ever do is get beaten up and die (ignores Dragonball and only pays attention to Z)

and many more hate quotes....
Ok here is a question. What has Yamcha done that has been of any use? Last I checked nothing. People have the right to dis Yamcha. Krillin on the other hand does not deserve being called useless. He has done quite a few useful things.
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Post by CaBrPi » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:41 pm

Yamcha was responsible for removing Goku's tail at the end of the very first arc. If he hadn't, Bulma would've been killed, and therefore, there would've been no Dragon Radar, so Goku would never have gotten strong enough to beat Piccolo.

Chaozu is the only member of the "main" cast who is legitimately unimportant. All he does is add a little extra drama to Tenshinhan's character. Tenshinhan would've attempted the Mafuba on Piccolo without Chaozu's death, would've been killed by Nappa without Chaozu's death, and Chaozu had literally nothing to do with Tenshinhan holding Cell off so #18 could escape, or Tenshinhan arriving to "save" Gohan from Boo.

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Post by Sinestro » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:52 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:I hear Dragon Ball GT was so much of a dud that it not only damaged the franchise but it contributed majority in nearly bringing down the entire anime industry in Japan.
I heard GT's just a story manga/anime fans tell to their kids, to make them behave. Be good, or I'll bust out the GT tapes.

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DBZAOTA482 wrote:I hear Dragon Ball GT was so much of a dud that it not only damaged the franchise but it contributed majority in nearly bringing down the entire anime industry in Japan.
I heard GT's just a story manga/anime fans tell to their kids, to make them behave. Be good, or I'll bust out the GT tapes.
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CaBrPi wrote:Yamcha was responsible for removing Goku's tail at the end of the very first arc. If he hadn't, Bulma would've been killed, and therefore, there would've been no Dragon Radar, so Goku would never have gotten strong enough to beat Piccolo.

Chaozu is the only member of the "main" cast who is legitimately unimportant. All he does is add a little extra drama to Tenshinhan's character. Tenshinhan would've attempted the Mafuba on Piccolo without Chaozu's death, would've been killed by Nappa without Chaozu's death, and Chaozu had literally nothing to do with Tenshinhan holding Cell off so #18 could escape, or Tenshinhan arriving to "save" Gohan from Boo.
Oolong or Puar, can't remember which, was responsible for removing the tail last I checked. If it was Yamcha, hooray he was useful one time. Now name 2 more times.
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:
CaBrPi wrote:Yamcha was responsible for removing Goku's tail at the end of the very first arc. If he hadn't, Bulma would've been killed, and therefore, there would've been no Dragon Radar, so Goku would never have gotten strong enough to beat Piccolo.

Chaozu is the only member of the "main" cast who is legitimately unimportant. All he does is add a little extra drama to Tenshinhan's character. Tenshinhan would've attempted the Mafuba on Piccolo without Chaozu's death, would've been killed by Nappa without Chaozu's death, and Chaozu had literally nothing to do with Tenshinhan holding Cell off so #18 could escape, or Tenshinhan arriving to "save" Gohan from Boo.
Oolong or Puar, can't remember which, was responsible for removing the tail last I checked. If it was Yamcha, hooray he was useful one time. Now name 2 more times.
Puar was the one who did the cutting, but Yamcha told him to do it.

And I don't have to "name 2 more times", because I just disproved that Yamcha never did anything useful.

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Post by TripleRach » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:10 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Now name 2 more times.
Yamcha's desire to use the Dragon Balls to get married led to him stalking Gokuu, and thus he became the only one besides Chichi to learn Gokuu's weakness (and the way to stop his Oozaru form). Puer alone never would have gone through any of that, since he doesn't seem very independent or clever. Chichi wouldn't have done anything either, since she was at home waiting for Gokuu to come whisk her away, and she was kind of dumb anyway.

Gokuu was being beaten by the rabbits until Yamcha stepped in to help. Without Yamcha, Gokuu and/or Blooma probably would have died a carrot death right there.

Yamcha also provided a vehicle for Gokuu's group after Shuu and Mai destroyed their car. Otherwise, they couldn't have all gone to the castle together (just Gokuu on Kintoun? he'd easily fall for the castle's traps), and Pilaf could have gotten the seventh ball and made a wish more easily.

It was also Yamcha's idea to use Kamehameha to bust through the castle walls for Oolong and Puer to fly out. Gokuu's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and the rest of the group aren't really fighters, so it's unlikely any of them would have considered that option before it was too late.
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Now name 2 more times.
Yamcha's desire to use the Dragon Balls to get married led to him stalking Gokuu, and thus he became the only one besides Chichi to learn Gokuu's weakness (and the way to stop his Oozaru form). Puer alone never would have gone through any of that, since he doesn't seem very independent or clever. Chichi wouldn't have done anything either, since she was at home waiting for Gokuu to come whisk her away, and she was kind of dumb anyway.

Gokuu was being beaten by the rabbits until Yamcha stepped in to help. Without Yamcha, Gokuu and/or Blooma probably would have died a carrot death right there.

Yamcha also provided a vehicle for Gokuu's group after Shuu and Mai destroyed their car. Otherwise, they couldn't have all gone to the castle together (just Gokuu on Kintoun? he'd easily fall for the castle's traps), and Pilaf could have gotten the seventh ball and made a wish more easily.

It was also Yamcha's idea to use Kamehameha to bust through the castle walls for Oolong and Puer to fly out. Gokuu's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and the rest of the group aren't really fighters, so it's unlikely any of them would have considered that option before it was too late.
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TripleRach wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Now name 2 more times.
Yamcha's desire to use the Dragon Balls to get married led to him stalking Gokuu, and thus he became the only one besides Chichi to learn Gokuu's weakness (and the way to stop his Oozaru form). Puer alone never would have gone through any of that, since he doesn't seem very independent or clever. Chichi wouldn't have done anything either, since she was at home waiting for Gokuu to come whisk her away, and she was kind of dumb anyway.

Gokuu was being beaten by the rabbits until Yamcha stepped in to help. Without Yamcha, Gokuu and/or Blooma probably would have died a carrot death right there.

Yamcha also provided a vehicle for Gokuu's group after Shuu and Mai destroyed their car. Otherwise, they couldn't have all gone to the castle together (just Gokuu on Kintoun? he'd easily fall for the castle's traps), and Pilaf could have gotten the seventh ball and made a wish more easily.

It was also Yamcha's idea to use Kamehameha to bust through the castle walls for Oolong and Puer to fly out. Gokuu's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and the rest of the group aren't really fighters, so it's unlikely any of them would have considered that option before it was too late.
...And it all goes downhill from there. :P
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Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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TripleRach wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Now name 2 more times.
Yamcha's desire to use the Dragon Balls to get married led to him stalking Gokuu, and thus he became the only one besides Chichi to learn Gokuu's weakness (and the way to stop his Oozaru form). Puer alone never would have gone through any of that, since he doesn't seem very independent or clever. Chichi wouldn't have done anything either, since she was at home waiting for Gokuu to come whisk her away, and she was kind of dumb anyway.

Gokuu was being beaten by the rabbits until Yamcha stepped in to help. Without Yamcha, Gokuu and/or Blooma probably would have died a carrot death right there.

Yamcha also provided a vehicle for Gokuu's group after Shuu and Mai destroyed their car. Otherwise, they couldn't have all gone to the castle together (just Gokuu on Kintoun? he'd easily fall for the castle's traps), and Pilaf could have gotten the seventh ball and made a wish more easily.

It was also Yamcha's idea to use Kamehameha to bust through the castle walls for Oolong and Puer to fly out. Gokuu's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and the rest of the group aren't really fighters, so it's unlikely any of them would have considered that option before it was too late.
...And it all goes downhill from there. :P
Yeah it does go downhill (not just for Yamcha but for most of the other humans as well especially Lunch, Tenshinhan, Chaozu and the minor characters Goku met during Dragonball etc)

but Yamcha has done stuff to help in Dragonball Z as well, he tried to help fighting the saiyans and Cell, he also helped Goku get to home and then to Roshi's while Goku had the heart virus.

He may have not won, but at least he did try to help the Z-warriors during the saiyan battle and the Cell Games that still counts as something to me, one of the fans he has left.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:14 am

I also don't want to hear how Goku always wins which is not true. I do find it annoying when people say that Goku always wins every battle when he lost before in the past.
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