Toriyama's GT Designs

DNA · Post by **DNA** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:30 am

The Time Traveller wrote:Pilaf's wish to turn Goku into a kid also shrunk his clothes, when Goku turns Super Saiyan 4 the wish is broken so his clothes are restored to an adult size, and when he turns normal the wish kicks back in and turns him into a kid, and would also affect his clothes.

That would be a really good answer, if the Golden Ozaru transformation was removed out of the equation, which more than once I thought it would be a better option. Imagine this: Goku begins transforming into Ozaru, but since he is conscious about what's going to happen, and is so powerful now, he resists the transformation. To cope with it, the body undergoes a new transformation between Super Saiyan and Ozaru.

About Piccolo's power, maybe it's magical power and not actually fighting power. Maybe they're separate things.

Jackal puFF · Post by **Jackal puFF** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:08 pm

Yeah Gt is such a mess. Thinking about all of it will give you unsolved thoughts. I want to know if Toriyama made a Vegeta design as a SS4

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:24 am

Jackal puFF wrote:Yeah Gt is such a mess. Thinking about all of it will give you unsolved thoughts. I want to know if Toriyama made a Vegeta design as a SS4

Toriyama does not concern himself with trivial characters like Vegeta. If it is not “Goku”, why even bother attempting to design something.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:18 am

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Jackal puFF wrote:Yeah Gt is such a mess. Thinking about all of it will give you unsolved thoughts. I want to know if Toriyama made a Vegeta design as a SS4
Toriyama does not concern himself with trivial characters like Vegeta. If it is not “Goku”, why even bother attempting to design something.

Oh come now...

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:12 am

Jackal puFF wrote:Yeah Gt is such a mess. Thinking about all of it will give you unsolved thoughts. I want to know if Toriyama made a Vegeta design as a SS4

Toriyama didn't have anything to do with the Super Saiya-jin 4 design. All of those designs were done by Nakatsuru Katsuyoshi. The only Super Saiya-jin 4 artwork we have is the sketch he made of SSJ4 Gogeta in the Dragon Book.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:21 am

Hujio wrote:
Jackal puFF wrote:Yeah Gt is such a mess. Thinking about all of it will give you unsolved thoughts. I want to know if Toriyama made a Vegeta design as a SS4
Toriyama didn't have anything to do with the Super Saiya-jin 4 design. All of those designs were done by Nakatsuru Katsuyoshi. The only Super Saiya-jin 4 artwork we have is the sketch he made of SSJ4 Gogeta in the Dragon Book.

I thought the sketch was of Super Saiyan 4 Kakarrot not Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:58 am

Yeah, it's Goku rather than Gogeta.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:17 am

Is just only me or Toriyama's sketch of SSJ4 Goku depicts him as a child?

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:32 am

Senzu_Bean wrote:Is just only me or Toriyama's sketch of SSJ4 Goku depicts him as a child?

It's just you.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:35 am

The Tori-bot wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:Is just only me or Toriyama's sketch of SSJ4 Goku depicts him as a child?
It's just you.

Bah!

Seriously, I can't picture an adult Goku in that SSJ4 design. He looks too childish.
And I noticed Trunks has a gun in that concept art similar to Bulma's guns in DBE.

Sanjiscool · Post by **Sanjiscool** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:35 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:And I noticed Trunks has a gun in that concept art similar to Bulma's guns in DBE.

Too lazy to use ki in his older age.

Can't believe Toriyama is responsible for Vegeta's stache and bucket cut.