The 2007 Beowulf film got away with a lot of blood and gore and it was PG-13. It had much of violence as the stuff that you mention. The violence in the series won't reach the same level of a R rated film like Predator, Alien, Friday the 13th, Hostel and various of others. Thor 2 had hands getting chopped off and people being impaled and it got a PG-13 rating.RandomGuy96 wrote: Gero squeezed a guy's neck so hard that his head popped off like a fucking pez dispenser. Very messily too. Babidi made a guy's head explode into a shower of gore in the Buu arc, and also cut people in half (you can even see intestines hanging out), killed children by stabbing them through the chest, and made a guy swell and pop like a balloon.
By contrast, the PG-13 rated Avengers had to censor an impalement.
What do you believe to be the series intended demographic?
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Thor 2 didn't have people getting their heads messily and bloodily popped, or people being cut in half with their intestines hanging out of of their waists. Its hand decapitations and impalements were "clean" too, unlike Dragon Ball's.Hellspawn28 wrote:The 2007 Beowulf film got away with a lot of blood and gore and it was PG-13. It had much of violence as the stuff that you mention. The violence in the series won't reach the same level of a R rated film like Predator, Alien, Friday the 13th, Hostel and various of others. Thor 2 had hands getting chopped off and people being impaled and it got a PG-13 rating.RandomGuy96 wrote: Gero squeezed a guy's neck so hard that his head popped off like a fucking pez dispenser. Very messily too. Babidi made a guy's head explode into a shower of gore in the Buu arc, and also cut people in half (you can even see intestines hanging out), killed children by stabbing them through the chest, and made a guy swell and pop like a balloon.
By contrast, the PG-13 rated Avengers had to censor an impalement.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
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I believe AOT didn't have a merchandise line for kids to play with and mainly had a collectible line for older collectors. The DB does have merchandise made mainly for kids like trading cards, Discross toys, gimmicky transformation figures, happy meal toys and small vinyl figures. The series has stuff made for older and younger fans, but it's still a franchise mainly market to kids just like Transformers and Power Rangers.DBZGTKOSDH wrote: So, anime like Attack on Titan don't have merchandise for kids? What kind of merchandise to they have that isn't aimed for kids, dildos with Eren's face?
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You don't have a very high opinion on the franchise, do you?
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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No I do. I think some fans refuse to admit that the series is always market to younger kids. Nothing wrong with that as long if there is good writing and characters. Even shows for 2 year olds can have better writing then shows for adults. Cartoons for kids these days seem to have better writing then most cartoons for adults in the last 5 years in my opinion.
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But why'd you lump it together with merchandise-driven franchises like Power Rangers and Transformers?Hellspawn28 wrote:No I do. I think some fans refuse to admit that the series is always market to younger kids. Nothing wrong with that as long if there is good writing and characters. Even shows for 2 year olds can have better writing then shows for adults. Cartoons for kids these days seem to have better writing then most cartoons for adults in the last 5 years in my opinion.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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The series has the same age audience as those two since the series does air on Sunday mornings just like Kamen Rider and Super Sentai. It's not like DB is any different from other kids shows in Japan like Kamen Rider, Ultraman, Precure, One Piece, Yu-Gi-Oh, Case Close, Yokai Watch, Digimon and Pokemon? Both Kai and Super where made to promote merchandise for the show.
Kamen Rider in Japan has gotten away with darker story lines and violence too. Same with Transformers since Prime was much darker to the other shows in the series and is still market to kids. The 80's G1 movie had cursing and people being killed off, but still a film for the whole family to watch. Even some of the TF comics have some dark and serious story lines to them.
Kamen Rider in Japan has gotten away with darker story lines and violence too. Same with Transformers since Prime was much darker to the other shows in the series and is still market to kids. The 80's G1 movie had cursing and people being killed off, but still a film for the whole family to watch. Even some of the TF comics have some dark and serious story lines to them.
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It's intended for children, but the series can appeal to adults as well. I'm sure when Toriyama was drawing the manga he wasn't thinking about the adult fans, but that's the beauty of Dragon Ball. Everyone can enjoy this series and that's the reason it's still so successful today. Although if Dragon Ball was written in the USA, it would probably get a 13+ rating because of all the perverted humor, swearing, and violence/blood. Japan is just more lenient with those kind of things.
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Stop bringing up Pokemon. It's clear that shit is for even younger audience than the other shows.Hellspawn28 wrote:The series has the same age audience as those two since the series does air on Sunday mornings just like Kamen Rider and Super Sentai. It's not like DB is any different from other kids shows in Japan like Kamen Rider, Ultraman, Precure, One Piece, Yu-Gi-Oh, Case Close, Yokai Watch, Digimon and Pokemon? Both Kai and Super where made to promote merchandise for the show.
Kamen Rider in Japan has gotten away with darker story lines and violence too. Same with Transformers since Prime was much darker to the other shows in the series and is still market to kids. The 80's G1 movie had cursing and people being killed off, but still a film for the whole family to watch. Even some of the TF comics have some dark and serious story lines to them.
And that's why Kai and Super are looked down on by some older fans.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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It's hardly any different to what Hellspawn28 quoted. Every single show he listed are intended for the same age bracket but nonetheless can be appreciated by other age groups.DBZAOTA482 wrote: Stop bringing up Pokemon. It's clear that shit is for even younger audience than the other shows.
I don't even understand the comparison you are trying to make.And that's why Kai and Super are looked down on by some older fans.
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Only the edited version of Kai on Nick Toons and CW is look down by older fans and claim that DBZ was on Toonami was 100% uncut when it was not. Kai uncut is still pretty well like by most older fans.DBZAOTA482 wrote:
And that's why Kai and Super are looked down on by some older fans.
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Well I see it as a franchise aimed at all ages, in an interview with the db xenoverse producer, here is what he had to say:
Dragon Ball appeals to an audience from little kids to my generation or even older,
and in a lot of interviews, masako nozawa says it can be enjoyed by everyone like even in an interview with dragonball heroes:
http://www.shonengamez.com/2014/11/25/v ... ce-actors/
Dragon Ball appeals to an audience from little kids to my generation or even older,
and in a lot of interviews, masako nozawa says it can be enjoyed by everyone like even in an interview with dragonball heroes:
http://www.shonengamez.com/2014/11/25/v ... ce-actors/
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The series main target audience is kids, but all ages can enjoy it. Just like with Transformers, Star Wars, Pokemon, Digimon, Godzilla and Kamen Rider where they mainly market to kids, but any age group can enjoy it.
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well kamen rider is an all ages series, the producer of kamen rider taisen had this to say about it:
“It doesn’t mean that the Heisei Riders have to defeat the Showa Riders to protect the kids, kids might not want to see a movie where their heroes lose to the older generation. That’s fine though. Because Kamen Rider isn’t for kids only and this is the proof. Whether Showa or Heisei wins, it doesn’t matter. Kamen Rider isn’t Showa or Heisei, it isn’t strictly for kids only or adults only. It’s for the people of this country
“It doesn’t mean that the Heisei Riders have to defeat the Showa Riders to protect the kids, kids might not want to see a movie where their heroes lose to the older generation. That’s fine though. Because Kamen Rider isn’t for kids only and this is the proof. Whether Showa or Heisei wins, it doesn’t matter. Kamen Rider isn’t Showa or Heisei, it isn’t strictly for kids only or adults only. It’s for the people of this country