Adamant, I understood what you were saying perfectly fine. I was pointing out
there is a difference between how you and I come across when we're stating two things are different.
I'll say it again, which is the actual point people have been consistently ignoring:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 10:22 am
Statement A : "Funimation's dub of Dragon Ball GT is a different show because of the drastically altered tone."
Statement B : "Funimation's dub of Dragon Ball GT is a different show to the Japanese version of GT
and therefore if you prefer the former to the latter you are not a fan of the latter because they are drastically different."
Point of Statement A : These two products are drastically different and the same in name-only.
Point of Statement B : These two products are drastically different and
therefore anyone who prefers the heavily altered version is not a fan of the original.
Statement A ≠ Statement B.
This thread has only overstayed its welcome because people haven't accepted my point and were saying by me saying Funimation's Dragon Ball GT is not the same as the Japanese version I'm making the same point you are. I'm not and I don't know how I can explain it any more, there is a difference between these two statements and the attitude they convey.
See in bold and underlined where Statement B differs. You will hear me say Statement A but not Statement B. From what I've seen you've only ever said Statement B, never Statement A. That tells me fairness and respect to everyone is not a priority for you as it is for me.
I can tell people if a dub is altered to the extent it bears little similarity to the original and is effectively a different show, but I don't take it the extra mile that you have by using that to determine whether or not someone is a fan. Its not your call to make. Only the person your referring to can say whether or not they are a fan of Dragon Ball, why deprive them of that freedom?
And no I don't see the point in your thought experiment of what if Funimation renamed the show because all that would do is give sub elitists an excuse for telling someone whether or not they are a fan of Dragon Ball, so let's be grateful it never happened.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you no longer hold those views that anyone who watches dubs is of lower intelligence or mentally handicapped, but stop ignoring the difference between how your coming across and how I'm coming across.
I'm not taking personal offence, I'm just saying by all means say whatever dub is not the same as the Japanese version but please don't invalidate others in the process or even entertain the idea. It's wrong, and if you are trying to encourage people to watch the Japanese version (which I'm given to understand has been this sites goal from day one) your not going to, if I had never watched the series in Japanese I'd be turned off by others feeling they have a right to say I'm not a fan of Dragon Ball.