Buu Saga Kai

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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:50 pm

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Hey guys will there be a legal way for us to watch the buu saga of Kai??
Import or wait for a english release.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:53 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
JEFFMAN219 wrote:Hey guys will there be a legal way for us to watch the buu saga of Kai??
Import or wait for a english release.
Isn't there Crunchroll or legal streaming

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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Gonstead » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:55 pm

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JEFFMAN219 wrote:Hey guys will there be a legal way for us to watch the buu saga of Kai??
Import or wait for a english release.
Isn't there Crunchyroll or legal streaming
That depends on if they actually get the rights to legally stream it or not.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by xmysticgohanx » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:15 pm

kei17 wrote:According to a post on 2ch, a TV magazine says that episode 3 is about Gohan teaching Videl how to fly and Tenkaichi-Budokai begins on episode 4.
The Saiyaman saga is like my favorite filler tho :cry:
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Isn't KeyHole a legal streaming?
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Post by sintzu » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:51 am

garnetjester wrote:Noooo! They axed a bunch of Saiyaman stuff!! :cry: Oh well, that was to be expected. However, most of the Buu filler is during the fights themselves, and I agree that if they make them as short and ridiculously fast paced as the manga it'd be over before 20 episodes. So I'm guessing the fight filler stays, which I'm glad about, because some of the best fights in DBZ happen in this arc imo.
I'm sure the vegito vs buuhan and goku vs kid buu fights will get cut down but not to the point where they'r short like the manga
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Post by sangofe » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:55 am

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kei17 wrote:According to a post on 2ch, a TV magazine says that episode 3 is about Gohan teaching Videl how to fly and Tenkaichi-Budokai begins on episode 4.
The Saiyaman saga is like my favorite filler tho :cry:
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Post by Blade » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:22 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Isn't KeyHole a legal streaming?
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Post by Hujio » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:06 pm

I guess right now I'm the most curious to see how they even handle the Great Saiyaman stuff, since a bunch of it was never animated in Z. If, as they said at AnimeJapan, they're really trying to be as accurate to the manga as possible, then they're gonna have to animate about a chapter and a half that was never originally done in Z. Either that, or they're gonna have to work with the filler they used instead. Either way, I'm intrigued to see how they do it. Should be interesting.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by sintzu » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:55 pm

Hujio wrote:They're really trying to be as accurate to the manga as possible.
I hope that means the episodes wown't be 66 like what chris sabat said
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Post by JulieYBM » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:25 pm

Hujio wrote:I guess right now I'm the most curious to see how they even handle the Great Saiyaman stuff, since a bunch of it was never animated in Z. If, as they said at AnimeJapan, they're really trying to be as accurate to the manga as possible, then they're gonna have to animate about a chapter and a half that was never originally done in Z. Either that, or they're gonna have to work with the filler they used instead. Either way, I'm intrigued to see how they do it. Should be interesting.
I'm kind of hoping they just use what available footage they have an add new dialogue to tie up the loose ends. It wouldn't be impossible to trace over the scene where Videl blackmails Gohan and add more flaps to Videl and Gohan's dialogue, I think.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:36 pm

I've been assuming they would just cut it so that the start of an episode (most likely the first episode after Saiyaman's debut, given how quickly that goes in the manga) was Gohan defending Videl from the attack of the pterodactyls, getting the scratch on his cheek, and then that will allow the scratch that ends up being how Videl finally figures out he's Gohan.

Granted, that's still different from what the manga had, but it'd be pretty easy to condense it I'd think, and might be less jarring than if they did all new animation just to show how it went down in the manga.
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Post by TheAldella » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:38 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I've been assuming they would just cut it so that the start of an episode (most likely the first episode after Saiyaman's debut, given how quickly that goes in the manga) was Gohan defending Videl from the attack of the pterodactyls, getting the scratch on his cheek, and then that will allow the scratch that ends up being how Videl finally figures out he's Gohan.

Granted, that's still different from what the manga had, but it'd be pretty easy to condense it I'd think, and might be less jarring than if they did all new animation just to show how it went down in the manga.
I imagine they'll actually just get the guy who redrew scenes to mimick the art style he used and do it all XDDDD
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:40 pm

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No.
If it's not, then why the heck would DaizenshuuEX and Kanzentai even encouraged us to use KeyHole to watch Kai back in 2009? Talk about hypocrite...
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:42 pm

I don't think we'll see scenes created from scratch. Episode #1 will definitely cover Dragon Ball Z episodes #200-201. It really shouldn't be difficult for episodes #203-204 to be combined into a single episode, especially if it is done Doctor Slump: Arale-chan style or a new Narration is added to tie the two episodes' footage together somehow.
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Post by RocktheDragon » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:19 pm

Hujio wrote:I guess right now I'm the most curious to see how they even handle the Great Saiyaman stuff, since a bunch of it was never animated in Z. If, as they said at AnimeJapan, they're really trying to be as accurate to the manga as possible, then they're gonna have to animate about a chapter and a half that was never originally done in Z. Either that, or they're gonna have to work with the filler they used instead. Either way, I'm intrigued to see how they do it. Should be interesting.
Hmmm. Well color me surprised because I wasn't aware that some panels from the manga were never actually animated into the original Z anime. Looks like I have some HW to do for tonight. :lol:
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:39 pm

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Hujio wrote:I guess right now I'm the most curious to see how they even handle the Great Saiyaman stuff, since a bunch of it was never animated in Z. If, as they said at AnimeJapan, they're really trying to be as accurate to the manga as possible, then they're gonna have to animate about a chapter and a half that was never originally done in Z. Either that, or they're gonna have to work with the filler they used instead. Either way, I'm intrigued to see how they do it. Should be interesting.
Hmmm. Well color me surprised because I wasn't aware that some panels from the manga were never actually animated into the original Z anime. Looks like I have some HW to do for tonight. :lol:
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Post by Hujio » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:34 pm

JulieYBM wrote:I don't think we'll see scenes created from scratch. Episode #1 will definitely cover Dragon Ball Z episodes #200-201. It really shouldn't be difficult for episodes #203-204 to be combined into a single episode, especially if it is done Doctor Slump: Arale-chan style or a new Narration is added to tie the two episodes' footage together somehow.
Yeah, I highly doubt they will either, but I'm just throwing out all the possibilities I can think of. More than likely, I think they'll just edit things around it, possibly changing a little dialogue, and just call it a day. Although I hadn't thought of adding in some new narration, it is definitely a possibility. But who knows, they may actually surprise us.
RocktheDragon wrote:Hmmm. Well color me surprised because I wasn't aware that some panels from the manga were never actually animated into the original Z anime. Looks like I have some HW to do for tonight. :lol:
Yep. In order to stretch out the short Great Saiyaman story they rewrote a lot of it, although somewhat loosely basing it on events in the manga. But at the end pretty much nothing from the last half of Chapter 424 and the entirety of Chapter 425 made it into the anime. They are other instances of this as well, but this is the largest chunk left out.
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If it's not, then why the heck would DaizenshuuEX and Kanzentai even encouraged us to use KeyHole to watch Kai back in 2009? Talk about hypocrite...
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:53 pm

I apologize if what I said offended you. I'm just taking it in my perspective when you consider the forum has a rule about illegal bootlegs. Why condone bootlegs when you allow us to talk about Keyhole, right? And I honestly don't remember ever having this discussion with you on the "Battle of Gods" thread so I apologize. It does irritates me a little bit when Blade said that Keyhole isn't a legal stream, and yet you guys told us a way to watch Kai being broadcasted in Japan. But I obviously misunderstood. If it's really a gray area, then I have no place in this matter.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:12 am

We are likely going to wait until late 2014 or early 2015 for the Buu saga to come out in the US. I think 2015 could be likely since Funi can release BOG and the Buu saga of Kai in the same year.
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