Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
Moderators: General Help, Kanzenshuu Staff
- DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
I think the images should be DBox only. I always hated in the other wiki seeing low quality & censored pictures from Toonami. And we will have a standard quality in the pictures too. For Kai, it should be DVDs/BDs.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
- Son Goshen
- Newbie
- Posts: 41
- Joined: Sat May 21, 2011 2:56 am
- Location: Somewhere in the universe
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
I don't think the pictures should be limited to DBZ boxes and DVDs. There are plenty sources on the web that gives high quality DBZ episodes in which you could just quickly take a screenshot of, such as websites carrying English sub instead of dub, unless this is going to be based off of the English version of DBZ and not the original? Some people (*coughmecough*) simply don't own any of the DVDs and boxes or isn't in America, which would ultimately not allow them to upload any pictures onto the new wiki if the above is used.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I think the images should be DBox only. I always hated in the other wiki seeing low quality & censored pictures from Toonami. And we will have a standard quality in the pictures too. For Kai, it should be DVDs/BDs.
Then again no one will know if I just use an image that's got good quality but doesn't come from the boxes.
AKTF
- DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
I don't own any Dragon Ball home release, since I don't live in US or any country that sells Dragon Ball DVDs, and I don't have any means to buy DVDs. I do have, however, very good DBox ripps. But that's not the place to discuss this. I'm saying that the source should be the Dragon Boxes, because it's our best quality source for DB/Z/GT. That way, we will have a stable, good & mostly accurate quality of images. I don't think we sould have low quality images (like the singles) or terribly inaccurate (Season Sets) or TV-Ripps, and without any kind of subs. Now, if the picture you found on the internet are identical with the DBoxes, I think it would be fine.
NOOOO!!! Don't say that again! This is madness!Son Goshen wrote:such as websites carrying English sub instead of dub, unless this is going to be based off of the English version of DBZ and not the original?
Oh trust me, they will.Son Goshen wrote:Then again no one will know if I just use an image that's got good quality but doesn't come from the boxes.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
Unless it's actually a video quality comparison, I don't think really high-quality images are needed. Not to say it doesn't matter what they look like, but maybe something a 320x240 level 100 JPEG would be fine? (All taken from the Dragon Boxes, of course.) Something like this:
- Nex Carnifex
- Banned
- Posts: 892
- Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:26 pm
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
No manga only, then for anime only stuff DBox only, always start with the source and then fill in everything elseDBZGTKOSDH wrote:I think the images should be DBox only. I always hated in the other wiki seeing low quality & censored pictures from Toonami. And we will have a standard quality in the pictures too. For Kai, it should be DVDs/BDs.
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
Pokewhiz7 wrote:Unless it's actually a video quality comparison, I don't think really high-quality images are needed. Not to say it doesn't matter what they look like, but maybe something a 320x240 level 100 JPEG would be fine? (All taken from the Dragon Boxes, of course.) Something like this:
- If you are outputting an image at 320x240 into the browser you may actually want a 640x480 images. Newer devices are coming out with double pixel densities. Such that for every region of a certain size the screen actually has the ability to display an image of twice the pixel size. And even MW has plans to support those devices. So eventually it'll happily serve a 640x480 image when you use a 320x240 region and the user views with a device like the iPad 3 which is capable of displaying 640x480 in that 320x240.
- Borders should never be part of the image.
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
Those lines are right on the image. I suppose they can be cropped out, though.
Compared to the uncropped, lossless PNG:
Compared to the uncropped, lossless PNG:
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
Who died and made you the boss?Nex Carnifex wrote: No manga only, then for anime only stuff DBox only, always start with the source and then fill in everything else
- DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
For manga pics, I think there should be some just to compare differences between manga & anime (for example, Piccolo's fingers, Goku's outfit colors, SSJ auras)
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
- desirecampbell
- Moderator
- Posts: 4296
- Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:55 pm
- Location: Ontario, Canada
- Contact:
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
You guys are making this way more difficult than it should be:
"What should the standards for images for the wiki be?"
Whatever is relevant for the article in question.
Would a screen shot help the article? Get the best, least doctored screen shot possible. Would a scan of the manga help the article? Scan the manga, save at a reasonable size.
"What should the standards for images for the wiki be?"
Whatever is relevant for the article in question.
Would a screen shot help the article? Get the best, least doctored screen shot possible. Would a scan of the manga help the article? Scan the manga, save at a reasonable size.
(é) Yeah, I'm famous. Super famous. I start things.
Toyble's DBAF | DBZ Side Stories |Jump Super Anime Tour manga | Chou Kochikame
Toyble's DBAF | DBZ Side Stories |Jump Super Anime Tour manga | Chou Kochikame
- Nex Carnifex
- Banned
- Posts: 892
- Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:26 pm
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
I just feel the anime is based on the source the information site should be based on the source as well, at least as much as possible, like if there is a manga scan for an attack that should be what represents it not the anime copy. I just feel that would make it more authentic.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:For manga pics, I think there should be some just to compare differences between manga & anime (for example, Piccolo's fingers, Goku's outfit colors, SSJ auras)
- Saimaroimaru
- Advanced Regular
- Posts: 1047
- Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:40 pm
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
We could just do what Naruto wiki does. A manga and anime pic. Like this: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ao
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
Heh, I vaguely remember that discussion. Wasn't quite happy with the implementation using Wikia's crap tab system. But yes, generally the best policy is to include all the information, include meta information separating the information, and let the reader make their own choices.Saimaroimaru wrote:We could just do what Naruto wiki does. A manga and anime pic. Like this: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ao
- Nex Carnifex
- Banned
- Posts: 892
- Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:26 pm
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
I agree with that idea
- DBZGTKOSDH
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 12401
- Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
- Location: Greece
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
The Naruto Wiki usualy provides both versions when they differ.Saimaroimaru wrote:We could just do what Naruto wiki does. A manga and anime pic. Like this: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ao
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
- Saimaroimaru
- Advanced Regular
- Posts: 1047
- Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:40 pm
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
I know, it was a compromise on what would have been an unnecessary edit war between anime/manga preferencers. Only I say for Daizen Db Wiki we do it on a larger scale.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The Naruto Wiki usualy provides both versions when they differ.Saimaroimaru wrote:We could just do what Naruto wiki does. A manga and anime pic. Like this: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Ao
How are we going to do articles in general, because for very important characters like Goku who will have a very big page, we could go the route of One Piece wiki: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Monkey_D._Luffy and add in a transformations tab as well.
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
I can't say I'm a big fan of the tab system. I'd prefer one long article page for simplicity's sake.
She/Her
The coolest girl you know
The coolest girl you know
- desirecampbell
- Moderator
- Posts: 4296
- Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:55 pm
- Location: Ontario, Canada
- Contact:
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
Agreed. There are a host of issues with using tabs, it's much simpler and safer to just use one page, many sections.JulieYBM wrote:I can't say I'm a big fan of the tab system. I'd prefer one long article page for simplicity's sake.
(é) Yeah, I'm famous. Super famous. I start things.
Toyble's DBAF | DBZ Side Stories |Jump Super Anime Tour manga | Chou Kochikame
Toyble's DBAF | DBZ Side Stories |Jump Super Anime Tour manga | Chou Kochikame
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
Yeah, I also agree, I tried that system and I didn't like it much. Just have sections when applicable.
- Nex Carnifex
- Banned
- Posts: 892
- Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:26 pm
Re: Daizenshuu EX DB wiki...again
so when exactly is this coming out