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Post by desirecampbell » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:35 pm

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desirecampbell wrote:Anyway, I'm off to watch Dark Knight and write about how terrible it is.
Well, enjoy the Watchmen trailer at least.
What Watchmen trailer? I saw Dark Knight this weekend and didn't see a trailer. Although, Dark Knight has me worried about future comic book movies.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/watchmen/hd/

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Post by JAPPO » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:45 pm

Desire didn't like "The Dark Knight" ?

Wow. Know not to listen to his opinion on the live-action movie then.

Sorry, but wow.
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Post by bkev » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:09 pm

Seriously, that Chatwin is one scary guy... he's got that "hey guys I'm emo" look to him.
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Post by BrollysKin » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:05 am

JAPPO wrote:Desire didn't like "The Dark Knight" ?

Wow. Know not to listen to his opinion on the live-action movie then.

Sorry, but wow.
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, I'm not sure why this preschool lesson has to be retold.
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Post by dragondyle » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:12 am

BrollysKin wrote:
JAPPO wrote:Desire didn't like "The Dark Knight" ?

Wow. Know not to listen to his opinion on the live-action movie then.

Sorry, but wow.
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, I'm not sure why this preschool lesson has to be retold.
But dude, The Dark Knight ruled. How can anyone NOT like it?
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Post by Captain Awesome » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:38 am

dragondyle wrote: But dude, The Dark Knight ruled. How can anyone NOT like it?
Easily, people that actually read comics, and don't get caught up in bullshit hype.

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:04 am

Why does it matter if it was a good comic book adaptation? It was just a straight up excellent movie. It's Christopher Nolan, what do you expect?

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Post by kvon » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:11 am

dragondyle wrote:
BrollysKin wrote:
JAPPO wrote:Desire didn't like "The Dark Knight" ?

Wow. Know not to listen to his opinion on the live-action movie then.

Sorry, but wow.
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, I'm not sure why this preschool lesson has to be retold.
But dude, The Dark Knight ruled. How can anyone NOT like it?
Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Why does it matter if it was a good comic book adaptation? It was just a straight up excellent movie. It's Christopher Nolan, what do you expect?
Just read some negative (and professional) reviews of the film. Some of the critics were able to elaborate on less obvious (or really obvious) problems with even the most critically acclaimed movies such as the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Spider-Man 2, Iron Man, Wall-E. Nobody has to agree with the critiques, but should the reviews sound negative, instead of chucking them aside as excessive whining, the readers should at least acknowledge WHY the film is negatively reviewed, not to mention that most of them are able to produce legitimate criticism. Sure, the Dark Knight might've ruled, but not for others. It's just that simple.
Captain Awesome wrote:Easily, people that actually read comics, and don't get caught up in bullshit hype.
Hey! I will have you know that I'm one of those with the hype, and I am neither cow or poop! Seriously though, having no money for comic books, I can ONLY imagine how more developed the original material is. This is what I fear about this movie, where the audience might present the same problems with modern day comic movies.

As for the DB film, I haven't have much time following up with its news. However, I can say that I'm not a fan Chatwin's hair, as it doesn't look logical to me. If this is Goku, shouldn't they try to untidy the hair while maintaining that similar shape instead of having the apparent gel-like look? I mean, Goku doesn't seem like a guy who would use hair gel. Also, some bangs would be appreciated.

I actually appreciate the hinted blue strand in Bulma's hair instead of dying the whole head blue or the wig treatment. Blue hair is just way too flamboyant.
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Post by mrkaizoku » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:14 am

Captain Awesome wrote:
dragondyle wrote: But dude, The Dark Knight ruled. How can anyone NOT like it?
Easily, people that actually read comics, and don't get caught up in bullshit hype.
Hey, I read comics and I loved "The Dark Knight" in spite of all the hype. All the actors in the movie did a damn fine job. But I will still respect another person's opinion on it. Being able to speak differing opinions is after all what makes a discussion forum. Ugh. Getting just a wee bit off topic.


I'll try to steer this ship back on course!

As far as the "legend becomes reality" movie poster and the other new bits of information are concerned I'm still very far from impressed. Each time a new piece of information is revealed I get more worried. I guess that is just my nature though.[/b]

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Post by Onikage725 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:49 am

Just on this Dark Knight topic, I loved it as well, and I'm a comic fan, and I'm not much one for hype. I had two problems overall. These aren't from purist angles, mind you (light spoilers follow, mind you).

1- Not enough Batman. The first half of the movie feels like it should be called "Harvey Dent." Eckhart did a fine job playing him, so it wasn't unenjoyable, just wasn't the focus I want. The second was that Bale's voice for Batman, which is fine to me when he's keeping it short and sweet, strains hardcore when he's waxing intellectual late in the film. But then, Keaton used a gruff voice (not as exaggerated, granted) and wasnt super talkative in costume. The two after kinda just used their voices (especially Clooney).

I still don't think any movie has nailed Batman on screen, though Bruce Wayne is another matter. It's always a treat to watch the villains (not counting Freeze, Ivy, Bane, or Jone's Two-Face in my opinion).

IMO the best Batman is still Kevin Conroy, and best Joker Mark Hamill :wink:

I've heard some comparisons (and complaints) comparing Dark Knight to the first Burton film. I love that movie as much as anyone, but that wasnt exactly a purist playground either. The Joker filled in for Joe Chill on the murder of the Wayne parents, Silver St. Cloud was merged with Vickie Vale, Harvey Dent was played by Lando Calrissian, and we have that damn Batsuit. The Nolan films are the only ones that at least attempt to explain how that thing is plausible.

Um, I can't think of anything new for the DB film... so let's just declare this post horrifically off-topic, and I am done now :p
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Post by Kunzait_83 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:19 am

desirecampbell wrote:
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Herms wrote: Well, enjoy the Watchmen trailer at least.
What Watchmen trailer? I saw Dark Knight this weekend and didn't see a trailer. Although, Dark Knight has me worried about future comic book movies.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/watchmen/hd/
Forgive me the off topic post, but as I really don’t participate in any other internet forum at present time I just wanna say that that trailer completely rocked my world. Hard. I haven’t been that psyched for a movie, any movie, since… Christ I don’t know.

Not only is Watchmen my favorite comic, it’s also my favorite piece of literature of any stripe, the only complete work of fiction I can honestly say with a straight face has ever permanently affected me on any deep, personal level.

A trailer for a live action film that (thus far from what was shown) appears to be staying incredibly faithful to the book (to the point where just about every moment shown I could easily pinpoint within the original story) playing to one of my favorite Smashing Pumpkins songs (Pumpkins being hands down one of my all time sentimental favorite bands)… sweet god, it was almost like that trailer was custom made just for me.

Granted, whether or not it actually turns out anywhere near as good as the book remains to be seen (I'm guessing that in all probability it won't), but just going off that trailer... holy shit. :shock:

Apart from it simply being a damn good movie, I actually had to go see The Dark Knight a second time just to process it more comprehensively because the first time out I was still too jazzed about Watchmen to fully absorb the movie.

Any Daizex folks here who have never read Watchmen, or even heard of it, I have one thing to say… go out, buy a copy, and read it. Now. Right this second. Don’t wait, don’t put it off, don’t look at my post like I’m completely fucking nuts, just do it. Trust me, you won’t regret it. It’s THAT damn good.

Fuck hype, fuck raving internet fanboys, fuck hyperbolic critical acclaim or what have you. If insignificant crap like that really gets on your nerves (like it apparently did some people with The Dark Knight), just lock it away somewhere in a dark corner of your mind where it won’t get in the way, and just go read the book with a fresh and open mind. You're totally cheating yourself out of one of the most dense, mind blowing reading experiences of your life if you don't.

No seriously… you’re still here? Go! Off with you! :wink:

Oh yeah. Dark Knight. I’ll keep it short and sweet; I’ve read Batman comics since the late 80’s, I grew up with both the Tim Burton films and the Bruce Timm animated series, and hold a nostalgic place for them in my heart as much as anybody, and I’m the sort of person who completely ignores and tunes out 90% of the bullshit that comes out of the idiot box as a whole, never mind the massive (and stupidly absurd) internet hype for this movie.

And all that said, I still loved The Dark Knight and maintain that, compared to every other live action stab at the character, both it and Batman Begins remain the two most faithful attempts as well as the best two of the lot, both as movies unto themselves and as comic adaptations. They’re not perfect, they’re certainly not life changing experiences, and they're not gonna cook your breakfast while simultaneously curing cancer and solving the energy crisis like the dumbass internet hype and it's mindless droning followers keep insisting... but they’re the best of the Batman live action franchise by miles.
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Post by Kendamu » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:54 am

Looking at this new DB poster, do you guys think that the movie is going to be that colorful and vibrant throughout the majority or its running time or do you think that such a poster was made in response to the negative reactions stemming from older pictures that capitalized on the idea of "realism" (i.e. "brown")?

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Post by bkev » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:36 pm

Onikage, you speak the truth about the Batman TAS actors.

As for your question, Kendamu, I think it was mentioned somewhere that the guy who posted the poster brightened it up a bit... so I'm not sure.
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Post by djkalteraphine » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 pm

Kendamu wrote:Looking at this new DB poster, do you guys think that the movie is going to be that colorful and vibrant throughout the majority or its running time or do you think that such a poster was made in response to the negative reactions stemming from older pictures that capitalized on the idea of "realism" (i.e. "brown")?
I'm more inclined to think the latter.

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Post by SSj_Rambo » Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:07 pm

Kendamu wrote:Looking at this new DB poster, do you guys think that the movie is going to be that colorful and vibrant throughout the majority or its running time or do you think that such a poster was made in response to the negative reactions stemming from older pictures that capitalized on the idea of "realism" (i.e. "brown")?
Yes! Lets get this thread back on topic!
I do think that this new style of poster was made to "contrast" the other ones, I also don't think that it was because of the people's reactions. They probably wanted to gradually step into the brighter posters so as to not give off a Speed Racer look from the beginning.
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It'd be nice if someone could translate some of this, but I'm sure it's just more pointless information.

Also, don't forget to check out the other scan I posted one page back, it seemed like it went unnoticed in the off-topic Batman/Watchmen rants.

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Post by FormallyKnownAsPrince » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:40 pm

Is that Piccolo in the first scan? Tell me it isn't.... :shock:

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Post by Bardock the Mexican » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:31 pm

FormallyKnownAsPrince wrote:Is that Piccolo in the first scan? Tell me it isn't.... :shock:
I hope it's not the final product as it might be a "first look" thing. If it is though...damn.
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Post by Storm » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:47 pm

I highly doubt that's Piccolo, or even Marsters. Probably someone just fooling around and throwing that in for fun.

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Post by Kaboom » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:48 pm

No, that's obviously some joke image, of someone dressing up. Please, guys, I know some of us are quick to make assumptions, but... damn, did anyone REALLY think that was Marsters?
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Post by NeptuneKai » Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:53 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:No, that's obviously some joke image, of someone dressing up. Please, guys, I know some of us are quick to make assumptions, but... damn, did anyone REALLY think that was Marsters?
Although it almost looks like a live action version of "Postboy" outfit Piccolo.
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