Bulma and Vegeta

[Gokuman1993]

Bulma/Vegeta makes sense in hindsight, and everything considered it makes a hell of a lot more sense than Chi-Chi/Yamcha - to even consider it you'd have to assume Chi-Chi would be unfaithful without her giving any indication of ever being so,

Yamcha/Chichi could make just as much sense in hindsight. And they both kinda been unlucky in a sense when it comes to love. Though the affair bit is harder to accept. If it's supposed to happen during the 7 years where Goku is dead, then that's not infidelity.

Yeah, but remember: in Dragon Ball, death has no real consequence.

[Saiga]

Bulma/Vegeta makes sense in hindsight, and everything considered it makes a hell of a lot more sense than Chi-Chi/Yamcha - to even consider it you'd have to assume Chi-Chi would be unfaithful without her giving any indication of ever being so,

Yamcha/Chichi could make just as much sense in hindsight. And they both kinda been unlucky in a sense when it comes to love. Though the affair bit is harder to accept. If it's supposed to happen during the 7 years where Goku is dead, then that's not infidelity.

The infidelity is the problem for me. Personally, I think it's infidelity even when Goku's dead, as death isn't the same thing in Dragon Ball as it is in real life.

[Michsi]

The infidelity is the problem for me. Personally, I think it's infidelity even when Goku's dead, as death isn't the same thing in Dragon Ball as it is in real life.

So you are saiying she was supposed to spend the rest of her life alone, even when it was Goku that decided he didn't want to return? And maybe it wasn' t that different to people who had no connection to gods or whatever. Not to mention that Goku was allowed to keep his body and hang around with King Kai, but she would be sent directly to heaven as a puffy soul cloud or something, so it's not like they would be reunited in the afterlife.

[Saiga]

So you are saiying she was supposed to spend the rest of her life alone, even when it was Goku that decided he didn't want to return?

Hey, that's commitment. And Goku couldn't be wished back by Earth's Dragon Balls anyway.

Not to mention that Goku was allowed to keep his body and hang around with King Kai, but she would be sent directly to heaven as a puffy soul cloud or something, so it's not like they would be reunited in the afterlife.

Goku hung out in heaven though, so they'd still be reunited. Who knows, maybe Goku's status would be worth enough to request a body for her as well.

[Michsi]

Hey, that's commitment. And Goku couldn't be wished back by Earth's Dragon Balls anyway.

No, but he could be wished back with the namekian ones just as easily. They were just a phone call away. So he left her in a way. "Until death do us part" sums it up pretty well imo. I mean I can see her not caring about wanting start a relationship ever again, but I would in no way condemn her if she did.

Goku hung out in heaven though, so they'd still be reunited. Who knows, maybe Goku's status would be worth enough to request a body for her as well.

I doubt that would happen, we are not even sure if the other fightesr, who actively tried to fight evil would receive the same right as Goku, much less someone who only led a normal life.

[Saiga]

No, but he could be wished back with the namekian ones just as easily. They were just a phone call away. So he left her in a way. "Until death do us part" sums it up pretty well imo. I mean I can see her not caring about wanting start a relationship ever again, but I would in no way condemn her if she did.

Though the Namekians would most certainly grant the wish, I think that's just being selfish to ask them. I don't think it would be right to make a request when it's not an emergency.

Anyway, I don't think the "death do us part" matters much in Dragon Ball where death isn't really the end. Who knows, that might not even be part of their vows in the Dragon Ball word.

I would. Yamcha as well. That's pretty sly to be making a move on your friends wife especially when you actually still exist.

I doubt that would happen, we are not even sure if the other fightesr, who actively tried to fight evil would receive the same right as Goku, much less someone who only led a normal life.

What? They do after the Saiyan saga. Even Piccolo gets to keep his body, so the bar mustn't be that high.

[Michsi]

Though the Namekians would most certainly grant the wish, I think that's just being selfish to ask them. I don't think it would be right to make a request when it's not an emergency.

Anyway, I don't think the "death do us part" matters much in Dragon Ball where death isn't really the end. Who knows, that might not even be part of their vows in the Dragon Ball word.

I would. Yamcha as well. That's pretty sly to be making a move on your friends wife especially when you actually still exist.

I do not see this as being selfish at all. You saw how they acted when they met him. He was a hero to them too. And they would have just helped him out. And in many ways, this was as serious as an emergency. Or it wasn't any more of an emergency than when they let them wish back their Ten, Choazu, Yamcha and Krillin. So why would it be selfish now? There is absolutely no way to excuse this.

Death is the end in DB aswell, unless you get to keep your body like Goku or have some powerfull connection to the afterlife. Look at Vegeta's case in th Buu saga. He would have been gone for good had Buu been defeated.

So in short, if she wanted to move on, possibly find someone who was a little more dedicated to family life, then she had every right to do so and she should not be judged for that at all. I'm pretty sure even Goku would not mind either.

What? They do after the Saiyan saga. Even Piccolo gets to keep his body, so the bar mustn't be that high.

Because the plan was to bring them back from the start. I really doubt they would have been sent to King Kai to train otherwise and I doubt they would have let Piccolo have a body if it weren't for that. (also he did die while saving a life and Chichi has not done anything like that) And I'm pretty sure Krillin didn't get to keep his after he died either, so no, just being related.

[Saiga]

I do not see this as being selfish at all. You saw how they acted when they met him. He was a hero to them too. And they would have just helped him out. And in many ways, this was as serious as an emergency. Or it wasn't any more of an emergency than when they let them wish back their Ten, Choazu, Yamcha and Krillin. So why would it be selfish now? There is absolutely no way to excuse this.

It was pretty selfish when they brought those guys back, and it only gets worse the more they rely on the Namekians for non-crisis wishes.

Death is the end in DB aswell, unless you get to keep your body like Goku or have some powerfull connection to the afterlife. Look at Vegeta's case in th Buu saga. He would have been gone for good had Buu been defeated.

But Vegeta had lived a life of evil, and would have been sent to hell. Regular people don't just cease to exist.

So in short, if she wanted to move on, possibly find someone who was a little more dedicated to family life, then she had every right to do so and she should not be judged for that at all. I'm pretty sure even Goku would not mind either.

Meh, I don't really think she did.

Because the plan was to bring them back from the start. I really doubt they would have been sent to King Kai to train otherwise and I doubt they would have let Piccolo have a body if it weren't for that. (also he did die while saving a life and Chichi has not done anything like that) And I'm pretty sure Krillin didn't get to keep his after he died either, so no, just being related.

I can't remember the details with Kurilin at all, but Piccolo didn't need to have his body restored to be revived with the Dragon Balls and he didn't need to train with Kaio either. They still deemed him fit to do so however.

[Michsi]

It was pretty selfish when they brought those guys back, and it only gets worse the more they rely on the Namekians for non-crisis wishes.

It wasn't selfish, maybe careless, but not selfish. Again, Goku's choice isn't excusable regarding to Chichi. Maybe he was right to think he was doin the right thing, but his choice and his actions shouldn't tie her down, especially to someone who wasn't that dedicated to her.

Meh, I don't really think she did.

Oh, I don't think she did either, but it wouldn't have been wrong if she did.

But Vegeta had lived a life of evil, and would have been sent to hell. Regular people don't just cease to exist.

I believe it was explained that his soul would be cleansed and then reincarnated. So Vegeta as we knew him would in fact cease to exist. So yes, death can be just as final in the DB world.

I can't remember the details with Kurilin at all, but Piccolo didn't need to have his body restored to be revived with the Dragon Balls and he didn't need to train with Kaio either. They still deemed him fit to do so however.

Goku got blown up with Cell but still had a body right after, so apparently it's not necessary for your real body to be intact in order to have one in the afterlife.
And Piccolo and the others did get to train, maybe because King Kai thought they deserved it, after their battle with Vegeta and Nappa, especially because they were about to be sent back and because Vegeta was still out there. The first time Goku died, Kami didn't let him keep his body as a reward, but because he needed it to train and because he would be wished back. The same reasoning can be used here aswell.

[Saiga]

I think it's rather selfish, using somebody else's Dragon Balls to wish somebody back who has already had their second chance.

I don't know... it wouldn't be wrong, but it doesn't seem right either, because he's not fully gone, you know?

Yeah, but that's what happens to people who go to hell. They go to hell, get cleansed, be reincarnated. I think good people just get to chill in heaven.

[Michsi]

I think it's rather selfish, using somebody else's Dragon Balls to wish somebody back who has already had their second chance.

No, it's really not. Maybe wrong from some other perspectve, but not selfish, especially because they are not doing it at the expense of someone else's needs. Not to mention that it doesn't seem like an ethic problem that Goku would think about, since we are talking about his decision.So again, no loophole to sympathize with Goku's decision in regards to Chichi staying true to him.

I don't know... it wouldn't be wrong, but it doesn't seem right either, because he's not fully gone, you know?

He is fully gone to her. She was not supposed to see him for the remainder of her life.

Yeah, but that's what happens to people who go to hell. They go to hell, get cleansed, be reincarnated. I think good people just get to chill in heaven.

And probably reincarnated later too. Being reunited in the afterlife sounds nice and all, but they don't strike me as that kind of romantic couple that seeks to spend eternity together.

Personally, I always liked the idea that they all end up together in the end, but I could only imagine this happening to some of them, mainly the fighters and not to Videl, Bulma, Oolong and so on.

[Rocketman]

It's all moot because Chichi is immortal because she is a goddess.

[Olympian]

Yamcha/Chi-Chi definitely takes the cake for craziest fan theory I've heard, and I think a standing ovation is in order.

But yeah, Yamcha was really Toriyama's butt-monkey throughout the series, which is honestly quite a problem I have with the series. That he's constantly used as a plot device as the expense of his own credibility as a character.

It is annoying, true, but on the other hand that kind of plot use only works if the character is supposed to be strong. I feel that Aldebaran Taurus from Saint Seiya suffered from the same thing. The good thing is, inevitably new material for Dragonball will show up in one form or another, and it`s distance with the original work can only make those characters look better. Saint Seiya did it.

His only victory that comes close to being legitimate is against Suke-san, and even then, he needed help from Kuririn (although, I guess Baba was cheating too, so it evens it out)..

It totally evens out, Kuririn couldn`t even past that first round..I guess Yamucha got that cold for the rest of that series. But the Saibamen is a legitimate victory, he did the same thing Ten shin han did. He proved he was stronger. The humans were fighting per tournment rules, nothing more than that.

Then he's gutted by Android #20 and made to look like a pussy when he almost doesn't return to the battlefield because of how helpless he felt against them.

Yamucha is hardly a sole victim of that. Kuririn and even Vegeta come to mind on different ocassions.

Piccolo wasn't afraid of Vegeta.

Yamuchas dumbass got jumped by a kamikaze saibamen, and Kuririn survived. Tenshinhan, mostly because of Chiaotzu, has damn good reason to be pissed at the mere site of Vegeta.

Yet Tenshinhan is the only one with enough balls to tell it how it is. Piccolo, Kuririn, and Yamcha are just a bunch of pansies.

Hum? Kuririn never survived a Kamikaze attack, he wasn`t jumped in by any of them. Tenshinhan was the only one? I don`t recall Yamucha being buddies with Vegeta, he merely said, when they all met again, that more important matters were at hand, which was true.

[Saiga]

Gohan is a Saiyan, and more importantly not completely fail, so he can't be related to Yamcha.

[Olympian]

Bulma is paired with Vegeta because she legitimately deserves to be paired up with someone better than Yamcha. She contributed quite a lot to the series and as such she should be kept relevant and not relegated to "wife of the most useless fighter in the series (with the exception of Chatzou)." Compared to Yamcha, she was much more useful to the series as a whole, and it's a shame that out of the two, she is the one looked down upon the most, probably because she's more brainy than brawny and that's an inherently bad thing in this series. Indeed, I see posts to the degree insinuating that Yamcha is too good for Bulma anyway, but is that really the case?

Here are Yamcha'sre (positive) contributions to the cast:

- Helped Goku beat the Rabbit Gang.

- Gave Goku and Bulma a ride.

- (With the aid of Puar) Cuts off Goku's tail.

- (With the aid of Kurrin, Bulma, and Roshi, aka so many people that it can barely be called his feat) Beat the invisible man.

- Takes Goku home after he nearly dies due to his heart disease.

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Bulma's contributions to the cast were small but definitely noticeable:

- Invented the Dragon Radar, one of the most important inventions in the series ever, and it's existence was vital countless times in the story.

-Invented the shrink watch, which was significant for obtaining Muten Roshi's submarine.

-Fixed Raditz's scouter, which was not only significant to understanding how the Sayajin enemies detected power, but was instrumental in gathering the humans.

- Came up with the idea to utilize the Sayajin's space pods to travel to Namek. While this was initially a failure, her initial findings were refined by her father to produce a space-pod worthy enough for Goku.

- Piloted Kami's spaceship on the way to Namek.

- With the aid of her father, created the super gravity chamber and let Vegeta use it to train in and get stronger.

-Invented the time machine, importance is self-explanatory.

- Pinpoints the location of Gero's base.

- Builds a remote to shut down cyborgs Eighteen and Seventeen. (This doesn't become insignificant just because Kurirrin was too stupid to use it)

- Repaired android Sixteen, whose actions and "death" lead to Gohan becoming a Super Sayajin 2.

- Created the Great Saiyaman costume (seemingly stupid, but without a costume Gohan would probably give up the superhero thing [or it would go a lot differently], therefore no moment where Videl discovers his identity, no incentive to participate in the Tournament, no Boo Arc).

I could count smaller acts like repairing the radar after Goku broke it, deducing the exact location of Namek relative to Earth, and for inadvertently turning Goku into something far more than just a strong monkey-boy in the woods, but Bulma is already seeming more significant than Yamcha ever was. Yamcha was very important in the first two volumes of Dragon Ball, but that's it. Ever since then he was used as an indicator for how strong everyone is by being the punching bag and quickly becoming a joke. Bulma, while not a hugely useful character, at least consistently had her moments of being useful, and is in-arguably the most important female character in the series (Chi-Chi and Videl were written as love interests with little other qualities and cyborg Eighteen did precisely jack and shit after her fight with Vegeta). I'm glad that she got paired with the second-third most important overall character in the series, especially since their attributes work out nicely. They're both prone to anger, bother initially selfish but become less so over time, and both (at the time) are some of the more intelligent characters (Vegeta was quite intellectually resourceful until the Android arc where he went full moron and never recovered from it).

Summation: I'm glad Bulma hooked up with Vegeta because she was much more useful and important than Yamcha.

Haha, what is this? I can`t even..

Gohan is a Saiyan, and more importantly not completely fail, so he can't be related to Yamcha.

Denial is always the first step. Those Saiyan genes could only have been built in laboratory so Goku and the others wouldn`t suspect a thing. Gohan even used a sword at two different points in Dragonball. Sorry, man.

[Saiga]

Gohan is a Saiyan, and more importantly not completely fail, so he can't be related to Yamcha.

Denial is always the first step. Those Saiyan genes could only have been built in laboratory so Goku and the others wouldn`t suspect a thing.

Gohan even used a sword at two different points in Dragonball. Sorry, man.

Occam's razor.

Simplest explanation is that Toriyama was lazy.

Or Yamcha is Gohan's mother.

[Olympian]

Occam's razor.

Simplest explanation is that Toriyama was lazy.

Or Yamcha is Gohan's mother.

Carefull, Saiga, I think you are beating Piccolo Daimao for awesome fan theories with that one

Gohan even lived in the desert at some point and in a future timeline even bears the same kind of trademark scar. His genes are definatly there, and I know what you are thinking right now...I believe Yamucha travelled to the far past using Bulma`s time machine and actually fathered Bardok.

Btw, shame on the person who said Vegeta was balding. You should know better than to start a dumbshit arguement of that magnitude.

Okay, so he is not balding. He is growing beautifully a nice bald cap. And a 70`s mustache.

Can`t go wrong with that kind of facial hair, Nappa is proof of that.

[Fox666]

So Yamcha is a woman but was raised as a men? That explain his fear of woman, he probably got in trouble after a girlfriend saw him naked.

[DBZAOTA482]

So Yamcha is a woman but was raised as a men? That explain his fear of woman, he probably got in trouble after a girlfriend saw him naked.

It's probably also why he lacks down there.

[sonikku956]

Yamcha should write a book.

Zetto Warrior: The Tragic tale of a Scar-Faced Bandit.