The different animation styles in the DBZ series

Grandmaster J · Post by **Grandmaster J** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:44 pm

Mike D wrote:Third already has a name; "Triangle Crap Type":

If only this style was left out, the series would've been respected more by other hardcore anime fans.

Fourth (my favorite) would be "Next to the Best":

I always thought this guy's was the same as the first but, since the only time I see this artwork is after the Androids appear, I call it "The New Type":

The last identifiable animation would be "The Best" or "Closest to Toriyama":

There could be more, but I'm not too sure. These are just the different types of animation that I can distinguish.

All pictures are from myfavoritegames.com

All three look fantastic in motion. But I like 4 and 5 the best. These two styles made for the best action in my opinion.

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:45 pm

I wished the animators did the "Closest to Toriyama" style for every episode, but then when the major fight scenes engage they should do the "New Type" style. I feel this style captures the motion & the esscense of the fighting at best. Very similar to what they did with the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight in Naruto. They used a sort of new animation style that fits that particular fight perfectly.

tarsonis · Post by **tarsonis** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:49 pm

Grandmaster J wrote:If only this style was left out, the series would've been respected more by other hardcore anime fans.

Any self-respecting person claiming to be a fan would realize that this affects only a handful of episodes and would judge by content instead.

Mr. Announcer · Post by **Mr. Announcer** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:48 pm

Still, it's pretty heartbreaking to be waiting on an episode only to find that it's been crappily animated like the start of the Freeza vs. SSJ Gokuh fight, the fight between Gokuh and Chichi etc.... This is especially difficult when watching the dub because then even the acting doesn't really make up for it.

Oh and about movie animation. I was under the impression that they didn't use any of the groups from the regular cartoon production because the styling is pretty different, or at least initially they didn't. I can't see these guys spending so much time working on the episodes and still having time to animate the movies as well. Probably a different team altogether.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:13 pm

Here's some pics from "Freeza Defeated" (I forget the ep number since I got these from the funi dvd), quite possibly one of the top 5 worst animated DBZ episodes..

These will be the final set of the crappy triangle pics I'm gonna post. Enjoy!.. or not..

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:23 pm

Snail wrote:I agree, it's definitely the 'evil eye' group. Is everyone at Daizex going to start calling these styles by the name Mike D gave them ?

Ch'yea! B-Wood stand up! CMD stand up! Holla atcha boy!

. . .Ahem.

Snail wrote:By the way, I just watched Super Android 13, movie 7 due to boredom this morning, and I beleive that a majority of the animation was done by the 'Pale Cartoony group', I'm 90 percent sure about it. The 'Pale Cartoony group' have all done some pretty decent work before, but as the series progressed, it seemed as though they just stopped trying. There used to be more detail in their work, as well as more shades of colors.

It's not that they stopped trying but, it's that everybodies' design evolved where as they stayed the same. And as for movies and Specials, some are lead to believe that it is "Closest to Toriyama" when in actuality there is whole different team at work with the exception of one scene in the Bardock special. Go back and watch where Bardock kills Dadoria's goons. It is obviously the "Next to Best" team.

Castor Troy wrote:Here's some pics from "Freeza Defeated" (I forget the ep number since I got these from the funi dvd), quite possibly one of the top 5 worst animated DBZ episodes..

<snip images>

These will be the final set of the crappy triangle pics I'm gonna post. Enjoy!.. or not..

Enjoy clowning them, you mean. . .

Sebastian (SB) wrote:I wished the animators did the "Closest to Toriyama" style for every episode, but then when the major fight scenes engage they should do the "New Type" style. I feel this style captures the motion & the esscense of the fighting at best. Very similar to what they did with the Naruto vs. Sasuke fight in Naruto. They used a sort of new animation style that fits that particular fight perfectly.

That's why it was used when Goku and Cell were fighting. But if you watch the episode where Fat Buu whooped Gohan, Kaioshin, and Dabura's ass, you can see how much of an impact this animation has. Like when Buu slapped the shit out of Kaioshin. . .I have never ever flinched from TV before in my life until I saw that. Not to mention when he blew away Gohan, which was phenomenal in its own.

Saiyan · Post by **Saiyan** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:44 pm

One thing about this picture..

ROFL.

Tyro · Post by **Tyro** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:55 pm

Castor Troy wrote:

Oh my Kami... That one is just horrible. It's as if they didn't even try at all. By far the worse picture that has been shown thus far. Man, Freeza really did a number on those ribs.

Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi · Post by **Mayuri Furiza Kurotsuchi** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:18 pm

Castor Troy wrote:Here's some pics from "Freeza Defeated" (I forget the ep number since I got these from the funi dvd), quite possibly one of the top 5 worst animated DBZ episodes..

<snip images>

These will be the final set of the crappy triangle pics I'm gonna post. Enjoy!.. or not..

You know what I think? The whole entire Frieza saga had bad animation. They were trying to get used to the new style, but they were having a lot of trouble.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:44 pm

Tyro wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:
Oh my Kami... That one is just horrible. It's as if they didn't even try at all. By far the worse picture that has been shown thus far. Man, Freeza really did a number on those ribs.

Is that a face on his body?

As for the Freeza saga's bad animation, there were times when the animation was unforgettable. For example: when Goku went Super Saiyan and the begining of Japanese episode #98, also the scene where 100% Freeza "beat" on Goku (which both had great instrumental pieces).

Post by **VegettoEX** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:46 pm

Hey, everyone:

Please don't quote more than a single image in your posts. If you are the person posting the images for the first time, go right ahead and post multiple ones... this only applies to people responding and quoting those images. It creates absolutely pointless scrolling. I've edited a few posts to include the text <snip images> where it's necessary, and I'd prefer to have everyone just do it themselves.

Thanks!

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:19 am

LMFAOO!! at the Frieza picture. There's another hilarious picture of Frieza, you only see it for a split second; when Goku fires a ki wave towards Frieza, and he flies back. Before he flies back however he makes that goofy face with his eyes bulging right out. XD. It is in the episode after he transforms into a super saiyan for the first time.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:30 am

Chest face, you say?

theoriginalbilis · Post by **theoriginalbilis** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:00 am

Castor Troy wrote:

That's officially my favorite DBZ picture of all time.

And just mainly because it looks like a 10-year old is trying to draw the most badass thing ever. Heh...

Leotaku · Post by **Leotaku** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:47 am

Hahaha!

Oh man...I literally haven't stopped laughing at that ever since I've seen it just now. That's gotta be the funniest face I've seen in DBZ.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:41 am

Castor Troy wrote:Here's some pics from "Freeza Defeated" (I forget the ep number since I got these from the funi dvd), quite possibly one of the top 5 worst animated DBZ episodes..

<snip VERY crude images>
These will be the final set of the crappy triangle pics I'm gonna post. Enjoy!.. or not..

1st 4: Why is Vegeta always drawn so poorly in the Freeza saga...?

5th: My sweet high holy shit. This was drawn by a 5-year-old with a broken arm and soap in his eyes.

6th: LMAO.

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:24 am

Tsukento wrote:Chest face, you say?

Hm, that picture is from a well animated episode (JP ep. #11). The animation team was "Next to the Best" and the proof is in the fight with Vegeta, Nappa, and the giant.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:42 pm

Actually, I was using that image for a specific reason. Compare Goku's chest to his face. ;P

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:45 pm

Tsukento wrote:Actually, I was using that image for a specific reason. Compare Goku's chest to his face. ;P

Wow. Definate resemblance. D'you think that the animation team took it as an homage?

Mike D · Post by **Mike D** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:02 pm

Tsukento wrote:Actually, I was using that image for a specific reason. Compare Goku's chest to his face. ;P

Oh alright. I definitely see the similarities between the two now.