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Post by Xyex » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:26 pm

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Pedro The Hutt wrote:Slowed aging? <.<;; Since when? >.>;;

And well, they would age normally anyway, by Saiyajin standards.
If I recall correctly (Trans: I just read it) Vegeta says that Saiyans remain in their prime longer, because/so that they can fight as much as they do. Though I can imagine Saiyans would live a bit longer that humans; most cool aliens do.
Yeah. I mean, look at Goku. He was 37(31) when he fought Buu, 47(41) when he fought Uub, and 52(46) during GT and he still looked like he was in his twenties.
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:28 pm

Xyex wrote:Yeah. I mean, look at Goku. He was 37(31) when he fought Buu, 47(41) when he fought Uub, and 52(46) during GT and he still looked like he was in his twenties.
On that note, it's interesting to wonder what happens after a Saiyan is past his prime. Does his power begin to deteriorate? Could he possibly end up going bald (Nappa), becoming capable of growing facial hair (King Vegeta, GT Vegeta), or having other, less human-like side effects?

Have I stumbled onto a potential theory here, or am I just straining my braining excessively?
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Post by Panda » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:45 pm

I know it's the anime (God forbid...) but there's an old-ass looking Saiya-jin in the Bardock Special when Bardock is in the glass-tube thing. Anyone else know who I'm talking about?
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Post by desirecampbell » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:21 pm

Panda wrote:I know it's the anime (God forbid...) but there's an old-ass looking Saiya-jin in the Bardock Special when Bardock is in the glass-tube thing. Anyone else know who I'm talking about?
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Post by Deus ex Machina » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:26 am

Panda wrote:I know it's the anime (God forbid...) but there's an old-ass looking Saiya-jin in the Bardock Special when Bardock is in the glass-tube thing. Anyone else know who I'm talking about?
You don't mean the Doctor do you? He wasn't a Saiyan, he had pointy ears.

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Post by Xyex » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:43 am

Panda wrote:I know it's the anime (God forbid...) but there's an old-ass looking Saiya-jin in the Bardock Special when Bardock is in the glass-tube thing. Anyone else know who I'm talking about?
I believe that was just an alien, not a Saiya-jin.
SSj Kaboom wrote:On that note, it's interesting to wonder what happens after a Saiyan is past his prime. Does his power begin to deteriorate? Could he possibly end up going bald (Nappa), becoming capable of growing facial hair (King Vegeta, GT Vegeta), or having other, less human-like side effects?
There's no true evidence one way or the other. However. Toriyama did do a sketch of an old and very Roshi-esque Goku. I don't think I have the full version anymore but I do still have the avy I made:
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Post by Panda » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:53 am

Ah, it was worth a shot. I haven't seen Bardock for a good 5 years (at least!) so my memory is fuzzy. Would have caused for some majot speculation if he was a Saiya-jin though...
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Post by Gokuden553 » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:00 pm

In the Ocean dub, they always said "Those only pure of heart can become a Super Saiyan"

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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:53 pm

*Crushes shot glass*
I'm going to say this and I hope this is how this thread will end:

There is no, (what was that) NO official word on how to become super saiyan. The show was initially going to end with Goku being the only one. So they had that whole legend and thousand year rubbish to back it up. When DragonBall continued they had Trunks go SSJ and eventually Vegeta and on and on. DragonBall was suppose to end (again) with the Cell Arc. Gohan was to be the last one to have a major transformation. As we all know, the show continued and the whole ssj is very marketable(sp) so why not continue it?

From what I understand, you have to be a certain strength and male. I say male because as you know that diluted blood thing doesn't make sense because of Goku Jr and they just don't want girls going SSJ..

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Post by KinoFourpaws » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:19 pm

Xyex wrote:Yeah. I mean, look at Goku. He was 37(31) when he fought Buu, 47(41) when he fought Uub, and 52(46) during GT and he still looked like he was in his twenties.
Aah! Finally someone who recognizes his age is different from what the official FUNi snippets say! @_@ Though I think you're off by a year or so... lemme recalcuate, I had this worked out a long time ago. (You see my fangirlness right there? D: )

Let's sheeee... Goku was 11 when Dragonball first started, 12 during the 21st Budokai, and about 15/16 by the 22nd Budokai and the time he defeated Piccolo Daimao. Then he spent about three years in training and was about 19 (about!) at the 23rd Budokai. He was 24 at the start of DBZ, and he still was when he fought Vejita ('cos one's body clock apparently stops when one dies in Dragonball, so the year he was dead doesn't count), meaning he was about 25 when he faced Freeza (didn't it take Gohan and Co. about six months to get to Nameck?) and 26 when he came back to Earth afterwards. Then there were the three years of training, so he was about 29 or 30 (I think? I thought I had it worked out to where he was 30, anyway) during the Androids and Cell arc. Then he was dead for seven more years, so he was still about 30 come Buu... and probably not quite 40 at the end of DBZ. Which probably means he was about 44, likely 45, in GT, though I heard also that the gap between Z and GT was ten years and not five, so I'm not sure...

*whew!* There you have it... my calculation of Goku's age throughout the series. I know it's not completely accurate, but it's the best I've been able to figure. God, do I need to get a life... D:
Mr.Piccolo wrote:From what I understand, you have to be a certain strength and male. I say male because as you know that diluted blood thing doesn't make sense because of Goku Jr and they just don't want girls going SSJ..
Actually, I heard they didn't do female Super Saiyajin forms because they couldn't figure out how to design their hair in SSJ without it looking absolutely ridiculous... :oops:
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Post by Rocketman » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:37 pm

KinoFourpaws wrote:
Mr.Piccolo wrote:From what I understand, you have to be a certain strength and male. I say male because as you know that diluted blood thing doesn't make sense because of Goku Jr and they just don't want girls going SSJ..
Actually, I heard they didn't do female Super Saiyajin forms because they couldn't figure out how to design their hair in SSJ without it looking absolutely ridiculous... :oops:
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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:38 pm

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Mr.Piccolo wrote:From what I understand, you have to be a certain strength and male. I say male because as you know that diluted blood thing doesn't make sense because of Goku Jr and they just don't want girls going SSJ..
Actually, I heard they didn't do female Super Saiyajin forms because they couldn't figure out how to design their hair in SSJ without it looking absolutely ridiculous... :oops:
Large, bulging muscles and lots of grunting.
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Post by Godo » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:41 pm

Rocketman wrote:
KinoFourpaws wrote:
Mr.Piccolo wrote:From what I understand, you have to be a certain strength and male. I say male because as you know that diluted blood thing doesn't make sense because of Goku Jr and they just don't want girls going SSJ..
Actually, I heard they didn't do female Super Saiyajin forms because they couldn't figure out how to design their hair in SSJ without it looking absolutely ridiculous... :oops:
Large, bulging muscles and lots of grunting.
Sexy...mmm...large bulging muscles...aaarhg....
I once saw a fanart of SSJ Pan. That didn't look that bad.

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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:43 pm

Godo wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
KinoFourpaws wrote: Actually, I heard they didn't do female Super Saiyajin forms because they couldn't figure out how to design their hair in SSJ without it looking absolutely ridiculous... :oops:
Large, bulging muscles and lots of grunting.
Sexy...mmm...large bulging muscles...aaarhg....
I once saw a fanart of SSJ Pan. That didn't look that bad.
I don't know if you saw the one I saw but her hair kind of look like Broli's..?
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Post by KinoFourpaws » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:45 pm

Rocketman wrote:Large, bulging muscles and lots of grunting.
Well, I was just talking about the hair right there... :oops:

I would figure that the bulging muscles would be a product of SSJ increasing the amount of testosterone or putuitary (sp?) gland output, or the Saiyajin equivalent of that (or whatever's involved in making someone's muscles huge >.>) in the men. I mean, the women would probably have some bulge in their muscles, too, but to a far lesser extent, since they don't even have testosterone. They have estrogen! Yay! :D The grunting is something I'm sure both genders would do, considering this is a warrior race we're talking about... >___>;

But, considering there are no female Super Saiyajin ever shown, I guess we'll never know anything about those more specific details... :|
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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:46 pm

KinoFourpaws wrote: But, considering there are no female Super Saiyajin ever shown, I guess we'll never know anything about those more specific details... :|
What the hell are you talking about no female ssjs..? DragonBall AF, DUH!
I mean right.. no female super saiyans.. thats..

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Post by Rocketman » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:47 pm

Actually, upon further review of muscular women...

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I stand corrected.

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Post by KinoFourpaws » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:49 pm

Mr.Piccolo wrote:What the hell are you talking about no female ssjs..? DragonBall AF, DUH!
I mean right.. no female super saiyans.. thats..

...

Oh my God..
Well, there are no OFFICIAL female Super Saiyajin pictures, at least not that we know of. So like I said, we'll never know for sure. :oops:
Rocketman wrote:Actually, upon further review of muscular women...

Image

I stand corrected.
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Post by Godo » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:43 am

Image

This is actually what I'm talking about.

Pretty awesome if you ask me.

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Post by Gokuden553 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:44 am

Godo wrote:Image

This is actually what I'm talking about.

Pretty awesome if you ask me.
Wow that's an amazing drawing of SSJ Pan :D

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