Buu Saga Kai

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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Gonstead » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:05 pm

Could somebody either link or post the lyrics for the ED please?
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Puto » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:15 pm

Lyrics:

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Ah...
hitotsu kabe koeretara
mata sara ni dekai kabe ga
me no mae tachihadakaru to iu
routine work no loop sa
nando umare kawatte mo
yokatta to hokoreru yō na
ikikata o shiteitai yo na
soshitara kono sadame mo aiseru hazu desu
Ah...
haikei, zarathustra
Ah...
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Ah...
For every wall I overcome
There's yet another taller one
Standing right in front of me
It's a routine loop for me
No matter how many times I'm reborn
I always want to live my life right
A life I can be proud of
I'll even come to love this fate of mine!
Ah...
Dear Zarathustra...
Ah...
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:40 pm

Not really feeling the music much. I know Dragon Ball Z is an 80's-90's show, but damn.... this sounds way too 90's. I love the opening and ending themes though.
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:55 pm

Hey, I'm curious as to how this looks compared to the Orange Bricks. Anyone wanna put up a screen shot for me? :D
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Post by Fionordequester » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:07 am

So would it be fair to call this "Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Big Green Version"?
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by sangofe » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:23 am

DarkPrince_92 wrote:Not really feeling the music much. I know Dragon Ball Z is an 80's-90's show, but damn.... this sounds way too 90's. I love the opening and ending themes though.
What? 90's? No. no, no! I have the feeling it sounds like 2010 or something.
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Post by Gonstead » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:55 am

The soundtrack sounds like an early-to-mid 2000's anime to me.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:26 am

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Hey, I'm curious as to how this looks compared to the Orange Bricks. Anyone wanna put up a screen shot for me? :D
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by TheRed259 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:12 am

Toei uploaded the next episode preview (DBZ Kai Episode 100).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TsWA2S-Qxk
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Blade » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:15 am

TheRed259 wrote:Toei uploaded the next episode preview (DBZ Kai Episode 100).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TsWA2S-Qxk
God, those synth patches are cheap and cheesy as hell.

I can genuinely imagine one of these bad-boys being used to synthesize the whole thing:

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I mean hell, can you hear that machine-gunning at 0:03? That would have sounded crappy in 1982, let alone 2014.

This is beyond low-budget, this is zero-care sort of stuff.
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Post by Gonstead » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:28 am

TheRed259 wrote:Toei uploaded the next episode preview (DBZ Kai Episode 100).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TsWA2S-Qxk
I don't know why, but the music in that somehow is reminding me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl_3BzAcSFc

Must be the similar sounding melody or chord progression.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Blade » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:31 am

Gonstead wrote:
TheRed259 wrote:Toei uploaded the next episode preview (DBZ Kai Episode 100).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TsWA2S-Qxk
I don't know why, but the music in that somehow is reminding me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl_3BzAcSFc

Must be the similar sounding melody or chord progression.
It's just a (piss poor) MIDI rendition of the opening theme.
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Post by Gonstead » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:33 am

Blade wrote:
Gonstead wrote:
TheRed259 wrote:Toei uploaded the next episode preview (DBZ Kai Episode 100).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TsWA2S-Qxk
I don't know why, but the music in that somehow is reminding me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl_3BzAcSFc

Must be the similar sounding melody or chord progression.
It's just a (piss poor) MIDI rendition of the opening theme.
I know, I know. Just in that format / version, it reminds me of what I linked.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by kei17 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:36 am

Blade wrote:
TheRed259 wrote:Toei uploaded the next episode preview (DBZ Kai Episode 100).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TsWA2S-Qxk
God, those synth patches are cheap and cheesy as hell.

I can genuinely imagine one of these bad-boys being used to synthesize the whole thing:

*snip*

I mean hell, can you hear that machine-gunning at 0:03? That would have sounded crappy in 1982, let alone 2014.

This is beyond low-budget, this is zero-care sort of stuff.
I guess this is what happens when you produce a year long show without sponsors. This sure seems to be the cheapest DB show ever.
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Re: Buu Saga Kai

Post by Blade » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:44 pm

kei17 wrote:
Blade wrote:
TheRed259 wrote:Toei uploaded the next episode preview (DBZ Kai Episode 100).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TsWA2S-Qxk
God, those synth patches are cheap and cheesy as hell.

I can genuinely imagine one of these bad-boys being used to synthesize the whole thing:

*snip*

I mean hell, can you hear that machine-gunning at 0:03? That would have sounded crappy in 1982, let alone 2014.

This is beyond low-budget, this is zero-care sort of stuff.
I guess this is what happens when you produce a year long show without sponsors. This sure seems to be the cheapest DB show ever.
Toei seem to have more shows out this Anime season than they have for a while - and judging from what I've seen of their general production quality, it seems Toei's decent production staff are looking even more thinly scraped than usual. Only Disk Wars: The Avengers looks relatively polished, which seems to be where they've distributed a good portion of their best animation talent. No doubt the fact that there's American money involved had something to do with that...
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Post by Flame Dragon » Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:43 pm

It could have been much worse imo, i'm still glad we're getting Buu Saga Kai. Better to get it cheaply done than to not get it all.

So, is it confirmed we're not getting reanimated scenes? Maybe this episode had no reanimated scenes for what we know, and next episodes will have some.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:04 pm

I doubt it. I mean, it's done so cheaply this time that Toei is doing the remastering themselves instead of outsourcing it to Q-Tec.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:16 pm

It looks fine to me. Better than the cropped over saturated nightmares that are the Orange Brick and Season Sets.

As long as the retail release is 4:3 I got no complaints.
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Post by Ajay » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:20 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:It looks fine to me. Better than the cropped over saturated nightmares that are the Orange Brick and Season Sets.

As long as the retail release is 4:3 I got no complaints.
Yeah, aside from the tint, I think it's pretty nice. The Buu arc was always stylistically very different and modern compared to its predecessors, so that rough look that some mistake for extra 'clarity' simply isn't present.

I'm also looking forward to the 4:3 release but I do have to hand it to them, this 16:9 crop is really nicely done. The extra width at the sides is huge!
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Post by Flame Dragon » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:03 pm

Actually i think the tint might actually help, if the previous comparisons are to be believed.
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There are many moments in the Buu Saga where characters have really bad cases of sunburns, which always distracted me. Now they have really light skin and i found it much more pleasing to the eye.
In fact i remember that the Gotenks SSJ3 VS Super Buu fight looked horrible because of the sunburned skin colors.

Also i think SSJ3 will look cooler with the lighter aura thanks to the tint.
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