Totally Spies are right up there with Dragonball...

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:47 pm

No, literally, I went to Suncost and acording to them, Totally Spies is Anime and sits right up there with Dragonball, Evangelion and other greats. Dosn't it bother you to see an Anime section filled with Ninja Turtles, Jackie Chan Adventures, Teen Titan's, Invader Zim, and the list goes on and on....

Note: Not that I'am saying those show's are bad, I love Titan's Turtles and Zim!

UPDATE: This is Amazon.com's best seller's list for it's Anime DVD's....

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/ne ... 20-1907125

Mugenmidget · Post by **Mugenmidget** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:49 pm

Well, it kind of bothers me that we ever made the distinction between American and Japanese animation get so ridiculous, but this sudden blending does not please me either.

So I guess for a simple answer, no sir, I don't like it.

IncredibleGuy · Post by **IncredibleGuy** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:50 pm

Yes, it does bother me that Totally Spies sits up in the anime section. Even the worst anime is ten times better than that show...*pukes at thought of watching another episode*

I am also somewhat bothered by the fact the Suncoast is only putting some American cartoons up in the anime section.

Shadowolf · Post by **Shadowolf** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:02 am

*looks at amazon list*

Oh wow . . . that is sad. I almost feel as sad as when I heard that there was an anime distributor calling itself Manga Entertainment. Does anybody ever try using a dictionary?

On a side note, Teen titans is VERY anime-esque, using pleanty of old-school techniques to show emotion (the single large drop to show embarassment, the -_- look, even kawaii / chibi character forms to show happiness). Does that make it anime or does the fact that its an American cartoon automatically make it not an anime. I guess I'm asking if anime is a genre or an ethnic distinction.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:43 am

The only non-anime I've seen in Suncoast's anime section was G1 Transformers. Totally Spies (cough*bad show*cough) was in the family section.

IncredibleGuy · Post by **IncredibleGuy** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:01 am

Making anime into a "genre" would not make the slightest amount of sense, as everyone Japanese cartoon has it's own unique style(for the most part that is). Toriyama never used wacked out facial expressions in DragonBall, should that not be considered anime now? Really, the only similiraty I can see between all animes is there horrible framerate.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:55 am

It's so lame that SUNCOAST, of all stores, would allow that. Like Mugen said, Animation is Animation, but by Anime we specify "Japanese Animation". Besides, I find shows like Teen Titans and Totally Spies to be taking the lamest aspects of anime, like oversized sweatdrops, etc...

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:00 am

I dont bother with Suncoast anymore. Its always packed with 12 year olds hovering over the DBGT dvds. Besides, Suncoast charges you an arm and a leg for DVDs anyway. I stick to Best Buy.

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:45 am

Does it matter? They are all animation/cartoons in the end. I see no problems with it, these shows actually go after more obscure audiences than your typical animation does.

BTW, for the record, Totally Spies is french. French animators have been taking a lot of liberties of trying to create animation that draw in more obscure crowds and audiences, rather than casual viewers. American/Korean animators have been doing the same as well for a few years.

Its not that they are trying to "emulate" japanese anime, but they are trying to find their way outside of the casual viewer.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:05 am

IncredibleGuy wrote:Making anime into a "genre" would not make the slightest amount of sense, as everyone Japanese cartoon has it's own unique style(for the most part that is).

From Dictionary.com: "genre-4: a class of art (or artistic endeavor) having a characteristic form or technique"

Anime obviously fits this definition don't you think?

omae no kaasan · Post by **omae no kaasan** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:26 am

*shrugs*

Tenken · Post by **Tenken** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:33 am

IncredibleGuy wrote:Yes, it does bother me that Totally Spies sits up in the anime section. Even the worst anime is ten times better than that show...*pukes at thought of watching another episode*

I am also somewhat bothered by the fact the Suncoast is only putting some American cartoons up in the anime section.

Obviously, sir, you have never seen Kai Doh Maru. That has got to be the biggest turd to ever make it out of japan. Watch it if you want to get pissed off...

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:29 pm

That picture comes in handy, doesn't it, omae?

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:38 pm

omae no kaasan wrote:

That's a shitload of kanji for just saying "gift"!

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:11 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:That's a shitload of kanji for just saying "gift"!

Well, just one. The rest are hiragana.
(For those who don't know: [oku]rimono = gift)

Frobman · Post by **Frobman** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:37 pm

Amernime (or somethin' like that) is what they call an American cartoon with anime styles! Though I don't see how TMNT is regarded as anime, unless the mentioning of Japanese culture counts!

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 5:59 pm

SaiyaJedi wrote: Well, just one. The rest are hiragana.
(For those who don't know: [oku]rimono = gift)

Sorry, I didn't learn hiragana, all I know for now is katakana. Thanks for the explination! ^_^

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:01 pm

Frobman wrote:Amernime (or somethin' like that) is what they call an American cartoon with anime styles!

Americanime and Amerimanga

Yeh that works!

The S · Post by **The S** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:27 am

Though I don't see how TMNT is regarded as anime, unless the mentioning of Japanese culture counts!

There's actually a lot of anime-style effects in there. Not like you'd usually think of, like sweatdrops and the like, but more subtle stuff, like fight scenes and screen transitions.

And BTW, they do have a TMNT anime in Japan.

omae no kaasan · Post by **omae no kaasan** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:50 am

That picture comes in handy, doesn't it, omae?

You have no idea. Any time "ANIME IS NOT A CARTOON!!!!"-banner waving brain trusts spew nonsense BOOM. Not that anybody did that here but just nice to have it out there.

I'll never forget the day I found that setup, it was beautiful. Just walking down the isle and BAM! ANIME/DISNEY! I could hear the screams of a million fanpeople.