Necessary Name Changes in Dub?

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:46 pm

Now while we all noticed that Funimation's dub didn't have too many big name changes, simple translations, or really minor ones, would any of you guys say you've noticed if there were necessary name changes to avoid arguments, or sounding strange or corny like Pokemon, Sailor Moon, and TF: Galaxy Force had?

B · Post by B » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:52 pm

Hercule, obviously.

No others were necessary, IMO. None that come to mind at least.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:16 pm

If I hadn't known any better, I probably wouldn't have noticed that Hercule wasn't his original name.

Oh! I would've noticed "Eighter"; Goku's dub-nickname for Android 8.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:34 pm

I noticed Eighter, but only because I already knew him as Ha-chan.

JAPPO · Post by **JAPPO** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:45 pm

Eighter is so stupid.

SaiyamanMS · Post by **SaiyamanMS** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:08 pm

"Bulla" instead of "Bra"? (Of course, "Bulla" is a valid romanisation, but still...)

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:27 pm

SaiyamanMS wrote:"Bulla" instead of "Bra"? (Of course, "Bulla" is a valid romanisation, but still...)

Now that I think of it, yeah, that was definately a necessary change.

With the Eighter thing, I saw that as one of the simple translations I mentioned.

Eighter is so stupid.

Preferred Viz's "8-Man" I take it?

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:42 pm

Can't have kids knowing about bras or anything!

Hercule I don't mind. As we know, it's just a stage name anyway. Eighter...eh, I guess they could think of something better, but I can't think of anything good off of the top of my head.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:44 pm

SaiyamanMS wrote:"Bulla" instead of "Bra"? (Of course, "Bulla" is a valid romanisation, but still...)

By that logic, shouldn't we all be typing "Bloomer" or "Bloomers" rather than Bulma?

SaiyamanMS · Post by **SaiyamanMS** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:47 pm

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:
SaiyamanMS wrote:"Bulla" instead of "Bra"? (Of course, "Bulla" is a valid romanisation, but still...)
By that logic, shouldn't we all be typing "Bloomer" or "Bloomers" rather than Bulma?

Well, Mr. Toriyama himself was always writing the romanised "Bulma" everywhere so... But if not for that, yes.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:49 pm

Well, Ox King may have been one of the more necessary name changes, since westerners might have more trouble pronouncing his name (I still can't spell it

).

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jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:52 pm

Kingdom Heartless wrote:Well, Ox King may have been one of the more necessary name changes, since westerners might have more trouble pronouncing his name (I still can't spell it ).

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But that is a proper translating.....

Well, Evil Ox King/Ox Demon King.....

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:55 pm

jda95 wrote:
Kingdom Heartless wrote:Well, Ox King may have been one of the more necessary name changes, since westerners might have more trouble pronouncing his name (I still can't spell it ).

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But that is a proper translating.....

Well, Evil Ox King/Ox Demon King.....

Considering the connotations of "demon" in western society, it's fine that they dropped the "ma": from the name, in my book. He's simply not "evil" or "demonic" in the western sense, and I don't think a person should really have to have taken a course in eastern cultures to understand a childrens' comic book.

Post by **Herms** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:04 pm

While I certainly see the reasons behind changing Mister Satan's name, I think "Hercule" is a rather random and dumb thing to change his name too. I think it would have been better for them to go with a name that at least sounded closer to the original name, like "Mister Savage".

Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:Considering the connotations of "demon" in western society, it's fine that they dropped the "ma": from the name, in my book. He's simply not "evil" or "demonic" in the western sense, and I don't think a person should really have to have taken a course in eastern cultures to understand a childrens' comic book.

Well, he is called the "emperor of demons" and did actually kill people, if only to protect his treasure. The whole idea is that he's a big, scary-looking guy with a scary name who turns out to not be all that bad, so removing the "demon" part of his name weakens that slightly. Though in Viz's case at least, I think they removed the "demon" part simply because "Ox King" is so much shorter than "Ox Demon King".

B · Post by B » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:09 pm

Oh yeah, completely forgot Bulla.

Not like anyone cares about her anyway, though.

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:09 pm

Herms wrote:While I certainly see the reasons behind changing Mister Satan's name, I think "Hercule" is a rather random and dumb thing to change his name too. I think it would have been better for them to go with a name that at least sounded closer to the original name, like "Mister Savage"...

Then Randy Savage’s people would have sued them.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:11 pm

"Mister Savage".

Sorry about "Hur_cule" it's my way around the Satan filter.

I remember seeing that on some old packaging, back in the day probley around 1997. I remember thinking "Eh, alright I guess I can see what they are doing there". When I saw "Hur_cule" though, I was a bit upset.

But, thinking about it, I think I know why they did this. If they went with Mr. Savage, then we probley would never have any sign of the name Mr. Satan in this dub. Being Hur_cule is his made up first name this allowed the dub to still call him Mr. Satan being his first name was now Hur_cule. I think it would be less confusing this way when releasing there uncut versions of the movies\TV show. But still, yea I guess they could have come up with something a little better.

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:18 pm

Saiyan-Professor wrote:
Herms wrote:While I certainly see the reasons behind changing Mister Satan's name, I think "Hercule" is a rather random and dumb thing to change his name too. I think it would have been better for them to go with a name that at least sounded closer to the original name, like "Mister Savage"...
Then Randy Savage’s people would have sued them.

Yeah. Know a few guys still said if they got to him in movies, they could picture Macho Man playing him though.

Oh yeah, completely forgot Bulla.

Not like anyone cares about her anyway, though.

Forgot about her for a sec too. Then again, she's not even referred to by name in either language in Z, so...

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:01 pm

Super Sonic wrote: With the Eighter thing, I saw that as one of the simple translations I mentioned.

Eighter is so stupid.
Preferred Viz's "8-Man" I take it?

I think Hachan is the only character that I'd support getting a completely different name. 8-Man and Eighter just don't make the grade. Maybe something like "Mr. 8"? Anyhoo, I liked Glenat's "Franky 8." That way they preserved the 8-pun, while taking a completely different naming route. At that, they even made another pun on him.

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:03 pm

I remember someone here saying they should have changed it to "Mr Saturn," which I always thought was a good idea, since it sounds basically the same as the Japanese pronounciation.