Additional Japanese-sourced battle powers?

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Additional Japanese-sourced battle powers?

Post by temujin » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:28 pm

Ok,folks i found a japanese page who says some interesting informations regarding power levels.http://www.geocities.jp/outer_z/bp_4.html
Android saga
Tenshinhan 天津飯 180万-1.800.000,but could reach 18.000.000
It seems Tenshinhan could use kaioken x10 and Yamcha only kaiohken x4

悟空よりもずっと永い期間、界王様の下で修行していた天津飯と餃子。
『例の界王拳のことを わすれてやしないか?』
戦闘力を何倍にも高める界王拳の存在を知っている上で、
手ぶらで帰ってくるとも考えにくいのですが、それを使う場面はありませんでした。
仮に使えた場合、戦闘力は10倍 1800万。
どちらにしても、戦闘力が億を超える敵となると、どうしようもないようです。

Can someone translate this ?

A-20
人造人間 20号 1億-1 billion

永遠の命のために、自らを19号に改造させたドクター・ゲロが正体です。
エネルギー(要は“気”)吸収式の人造人間ですが、
ピッコロたちが気を増幅し、爆発させている事を知らなかったため、
吸収したエネルギーは本人が思っているほど多い量ではなかったようです。

当初トランクスの言う人造人間とは、この19号、20号で間違いないはずでしたが、
物語が進むにつれ17号、18号へと号数が差し替えられています。
この矛盾に対してDRAGON BALL大全集4・WORLD GUIDEには、
「最初は本当の敵にしようと思ってましたから。
でもジジイとか言われてやめました」と、鳥山先生のコメントがありました。


クリリン-Krillin 150万 1.500.000

サイヤ人やナメック星人と違って、地球人がこんなに上がるとは思えませんが、
クリリンの過去の戦闘力上昇パターンを顧みると、
クリリンの強さ
ラディッツ戦 →ベジータ、ナッパ戦 ラディッツレベル
ベジータ戦 →ギニュー特戦隊戦 地球襲来時のベジータレベル
ギニュー特戦隊戦 →フリーザ戦 特戦隊レベル
新しい敵と戦う頃には、前回の敵レベルに到達しています。
今回も、フリーザ第2形態(100万以上)くらいは、案外いけそうかも知れません。
少なくとも、17号が敵側の戦力として頭数に入れるレベルはあるようですね。
18号、ベジータとの戦いに飛び込んだトランクスの後を追い、
戦いに加わるピッコロ、天津飯。
クリリンだけが『足がすくんじまって 立ち向かうこともできなかったんだ…』。
これだけで戦闘力を推し量ることはもちろんできませんが、
まだ天津飯の方が上だという、作者の意図にも思えます。実際はどうでしょう?



ヤムチャ Yamcha 120万-1.200.000

19号、20号にパワーレーダーの反応から、悟空と間違われていました。
20号たちが、推測する悟空の戦闘力とは
ベジータ戦の最大値(8000×界王拳4倍= 32000)から、
年齢から考え、それまでのような大幅なアップは無理という推測値です。
32000の数倍~数十倍程度はヤムチャにあったという計算でしょうか。
天津飯同様、界王拳を使えていたのなら、さらに10倍 1200万までアップします。
Piccolo became stronger than Freeza ,etc.
Gohan full power 3.200.000 .
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Post by Herms » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:37 pm

That's just the site owner's speculation on what post-Freeza battle powers would be. That guy does have some scans of some rare Jump pages that give official battle powers, but they're all for Saiyan and Freeza arc characters. I've been meaning to make a thread on that V Jump scan he's got.
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Post by temujin » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:48 pm

Herms wrote:That's just the site owner's speculation on what post-Freeza battle powers would be. That guy does have some scans of some rare Jump pages that give official battle powers, but they're all for Saiyan and Freeza arc characters. I've been meaning to make a thread on that V Jump scan he's got.
Are you sure ?The main page says Bandai.
It has the power levels to each saga.
If you want all the links.
The pl's make a lot of sense.
http://www.geocities.jp/outer_z/index.html

In the 23 BT
Tenshinhan 240
Kami-220
Krillin-200
Tow Pai Pai-210
Goku -300

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Post by johnboy1 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:06 pm

I don't know squat about Japanese, but that mention of Bandai near the bottom might just be a disclaimer saying who really owns Dragon Ball.
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Post by temujin » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:09 pm

johnboy1 wrote:I don't know squat about Japanese, but that mention of Bandai near the bottom might just be a disclaimer saying who really owns Dragon Ball.
Me too,however it seems this is the complete list from V-jump .
According to the V-jump scan Krillin had 75.000 in Namek exactly the same number presented in this site.

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Post by Herms » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:17 pm

johnboy1 wrote:I don't know squat about Japanese, but that mention of Bandai near the bottom might just be a disclaimer saying who really owns Dragon Ball.
You would be correct.
temujin wrote:Me too,however it seems this is the complete list from V-jump .
According to the V-jump scan Krillin had 75.000 in Namek exactly the same number presented in this site.
The majority of the battle powers are simply ones of his own calculation. Battle powers from the manga are marked with a blue star, and battle powers from guidebooks and Jump are marked with a red star. Anything without a star is something he came up with on his own. He's really quite thorough in trying to ground these calculations in the series and other official sources, and he cites lots of quotes from the manga, but its still just fan speculation and not official numbers.
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Post by temujin » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:12 am

Herms wrote:
johnboy1 wrote:I don't know squat about Japanese, but that mention of Bandai near the bottom might just be a disclaimer saying who really owns Dragon Ball.
You would be correct.
temujin wrote:Me too,however it seems this is the complete list from V-jump .
According to the V-jump scan Krillin had 75.000 in Namek exactly the same number presented in this site.
The majority of the battle powers are simply ones of his own calculation. Battle powers from the manga are marked with a blue star, and battle powers from guidebooks and Jump are marked with a red star. Anything without a star is something he came up with on his own. He's really quite thorough in trying to ground these calculations in the series and other official sources, and he cites lots of quotes from the manga, but its still just fan speculation and not official numbers.
Ok,however in the V-jump scans, in the 23 BT
Kami-220
Cyborg Tow Pai Pai-210

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Post by Herms » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:12 am

temujin wrote: Ok,however in the V-jump scans, in the 23 BT
Kami-220
Cyborg Tow Pai Pai-210
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
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Post by temujin » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:24 am

Herms wrote:
temujin wrote: Ok,however in the V-jump scans, in the 23 BT
Kami-220
Cyborg Tow Pai Pai-210
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
Nothing,just that the scans show these levels.

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