Does watching this give you new appreciation for Funi's dub?

TVfan721 · Post by **TVfan721** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:22 pm

The clip I'm about to post is not from DBZ but from Digimon. It is the famous Finnish Digimon dub and it is considered to be the worst dub of any anime in the world. Luckily this dub only lasted for 26 episodes before the dubbing company was fired and replaced by a better dub but here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcINhIjAxUA

When you see terrible dubs like that from any anime, does it make you appreciate Funimation more or is it still the same?

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:25 pm

"Does smelling this piece of dog shit make you appreciate smelling THAT piece of dogshit!?"

The answer is no, they both suck and should be eradicated from existence.

Post by **Herms** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:27 pm

You know how they say that there's always a bigger fish? Well, there's always a smaller fish too.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:37 pm

tvfan721 wrote:Does watching this give you new appreciation for Funi's dub?

YES. OH GOD, YES. O_o

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:48 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:"Does smelling this piece of dog shit make you appreciate smelling THAT piece of dogshit!?"

The answer is no, they both suck and should be eradicated from existence.

I this metaphor better:

Dragonball's DUB is like someone going here have a Reeses only to find its some off brand peanut butter cup. Its not the best but its still good in its own way.

This Dub however is like someone going here have a Reeses and its a pile of shit.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:55 pm

SparkyPantsMcGee wrote:
Dragonball's DUB is like someone going here have a Reeses only to find it gives you cancer and aids and kills your mother and rapes your father.

I fixed that for you.

xzero · Post by **xzero** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:01 pm

I think they might have been high when they dubbed that.

The reality is that DBZ's dub was never truly horrific as a whole. There were scenes that weren't handled properly (many of which were fixed by the redub of Seasons 1 & 2), and some of the voices were poorly done or inappropriate to the character. Nevertheless, it was not so bad that it was rendered unwatchable for most people.

Everyone has a preference of sub or dub, but in the end, I think the true difference between the DBZ early dub stuff and this clip is that the quality of the DBZ dub is a matter of opinion, and the Digimon dub above is simply objectively bad.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:04 pm

I love how forgiving dub fans are to their version of the show yet they'll mock other dubs without hesitation. Even when the U.S.A/ UK dubs consist of drastically altered plot changing dialogue terrible unfitting voices, really bad jokes and redundant cheesy never ending synth music.

These performances are a skip and a hop away from being season 3 Sean.

TVfan721 · Post by **TVfan721** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:06 pm

You know I hate the english dub but I'm still glad it didn't come out as bad as that Finnish dub. I've just accepted that most anime dubs in general are bad and I should just stick to the original if I want something accurate.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:08 pm

tvfan721 wrote: I've just accepted that most anime dubs in general are bad

Wow that's a major generalization. Most dubs nowadays are exactly on par with the Japanese version.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:19 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:"Does smelling this piece of dog shit make you appreciate smelling THAT piece of dogshit!?"

The answer is no, they both suck and should be eradicated from existence.

I agree. But I bet a dollar to a dime that there are fans of this Finnish dub of Digimon just like there are fans of Funi's DBZ dub.

B · Post by B » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:20 pm

No, it just re-enforces my previous disposition that watchable children's anime never receive decent dubs.

The reason msot dubs today are faithful isn't because they respect said series, it's because most dubs are "mature," and the type people complain about. But Dragon Ball? Pokemon? Digimon? That's kiddie shit! The kids aren't going to realize what we're doing, and no one above the age of 7 is going to care, so let's put our finishing touches on these now-appropriately-edited-programs for our youth!

Hmm... I don't think my asshole is wide enough for the shit to cover the entire footage...

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:22 pm

I'm mystified as to why people say the Pokemon dub was bad.

SuperSaiyan3Goku · Post by **SuperSaiyan3Goku** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:23 pm

My God, either they don't care, or they're really freakin' high. I'm going with the latter.

This shit makes every other dub seem like masterpieces!

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:23 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:"Does smelling this piece of dog shit make you appreciate smelling THAT piece of dogshit!?"

The answer is no, they both suck and should be eradicated from existence.

I myself prefer the analogy, "Would you rather be stabbed with an icepick in the left testicle, or the right?"

Much agreed though: shit will always still be shit, no matter how much you compare it to other turds. For a movie analogy, watching the 3D Night of the Living Dead remake with Sid Haig doesn't somehow magically make Halloween: Ressurection any more tolerable to sit through simply because the former somehow manages to be an even worse movie than the latter. They're both still abominations that I wish I never wasted my time on.

The argument that one who dislikes FUNimation's DBZ can "appreciate" it more by sitting through worse dubs is weak sauce, if for no other reason than you have to dig PRETTY goddamn far into the ass bottom of the crackerjack barrell to find worse dubs than it. I HAVE sat through PLENTY of dubs that are as bad or much worse than FUNi's dub, both way the hell before and after it reared it's aborted fetus of a head (in the 80's and early through mid 90's, dubs of such rock bottom quality were a dime a dozen and outnumbered the minority of good ones 10 to 1), and that still makes it no less a painful viewing experience than all the rest of its ilk.

The only thing that could ever make the FUNimation dub as it is seem any "better" would be if it simply ceased to exist. The same goes for just about any other dub that's on par with or well below it's level of dogshit.

B · Post by B » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:28 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:I'm mystified as to why people say the Pokemon dub was bad.

Well, it's not terrible, but they did a lot of stupid stuff with it in it's early stages that was pointless. It's much more accurate now, but that doesn't matter since only 14 people still watch it.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:30 pm

B wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:I'm mystified as to why people say the Pokemon dub was bad.
Well, it's not terrible, but they did a lot of stupid stuff with it in it's early stages that was pointless. .

Like what? The most they did was edit out Japanese text IIRC.

B · Post by B » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:31 pm

NeptuneKai wrote:
B wrote:
NeptuneKai wrote:I'm mystified as to why people say the Pokemon dub was bad.
Well, it's not terrible, but they did a lot of stupid stuff with it in it's early stages that was pointless. .
Like what? The most they did was edit out Japanese text IIRC.

Mostly Viz-level dialogue changes. I give it that it's better than FUNi's attempt at dubbing Z.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:33 pm

B wrote:
Mostly Viz-level dialogue changes.

Fair enough, I can see why people would have an issue with that.

Thanos · Post by **Thanos** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:36 pm

"Does watching this give you new appreciation for FUNi's dub?"

no