2nd Form Cell

TheNamek · Post by **TheNamek** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:31 pm

Was there ever a sketch or any sort of knowledge on what Cell's Second form would have looked like if he absorbed #18 first instead of #17?

Post by **Herms** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:43 pm

No, but Daizex has a scan of several potential character designs for Cell from Daizenshuu 4 here. They're not labled as to which forms they were intended to be, but presumably they were all designs for his first form.

B · Post by B » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:44 pm

I'm pretty sure it didn't matter which order he did it in.

There's no reason given why absorbing 17 gives him big fat lips. =/

TheNamek · Post by **TheNamek** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:50 pm

I was thinking since one was a guy and one was a girl.

I do however like the full drawing on the left of that page[it looks like a Cooler/Frieza/Cell fusion sort of] and the one on the right with spiked shoulders.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:24 pm

TheNamek wrote:I was thinking since one was a guy and one was a girl.

I do however like the full drawing on the left of that page[it looks like a Cooler/Freeza/Cell fusion sort of] and the one on the right with spiked shoulders.

He's more just absorbing their batteries. He just needs their power to turn from Imperfect to Perfect. Since #17 and #18 are in the same league of strength, my guess is Semi-Perfect Cell would look the same, only be weaker.

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:07 pm

I wonder why Cell chose to directly go for #17 to absorb first. Maybe he was programmed that way. So maybe it was necessary for #17 to be absorbed first, possibly because he would gain more power for #17 than if he had absorbed #18, considering the fact that #17 is the stronger of the two.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:13 pm

Well, 17 was closer to him than 18, and was already beat up from fighting Piccolo. So he was the easier target.

Story-wise, I imagine Toriyama was saving 18 for last so that he could use the "Kuririn's in love with 18" thread later.

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:27 pm

I always figured he had to absorb 17 first and 18 second. His forms reflect the person they absorbed. If you look at Cell's eyes in his second form, they become the same color as 17s. He acts brash and aggressive, very masculine, like 17. When he absorbs 18 his eyes become pink and feminine, as does the rest of his features, and he acts more like 18 when talking to Vegeta. Scoffing at his arrogance, letting him get his hopes up before crushing them, etc.

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:56 pm

Herms wrote:Well, 17 was closer to him than 18, and was already beat up from fighting Piccolo. So he was the easier target.

Story-wise, I imagine Toriyama was saving 18 for last so that he could use the "Kuririn's in love with 18" thread later.

Yeah, #17 was closer to Cell than #18. I don't think he was beat up though, since he mentioned that while Piccolo was weakening, his energy wasn't dropping because of the Infinite Energy Reactor or whatever. But your story-wise explanation works.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:12 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Herms wrote:Well, 17 was closer to him than 18, and was already beat up from fighting Piccolo. So he was the easier target.

Story-wise, I imagine Toriyama was saving 18 for last so that he could use the "Kuririn's in love with 18" thread later.
Yeah, #17 was closer to Cell than #18. I don't think he was beat up though, since he mentioned that while Piccolo was weakening, his energy wasn't dropping because of the Infinite Energy Reactor or whatever. But your story-wise explanation works.

17 would apparently never run out of energy, so he would win on stamina, but that doesn't mean that Piccolo couldn't damage him. They both looked like they'd taken a beating by the time Cell showed up.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:49 am

Bussani wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Herms wrote:Well, 17 was closer to him than 18, and was already beat up from fighting Piccolo. So he was the easier target.

Story-wise, I imagine Toriyama was saving 18 for last so that he could use the "Kuririn's in love with 18" thread later.
Yeah, #17 was closer to Cell than #18. I don't think he was beat up though, since he mentioned that while Piccolo was weakening, his energy wasn't dropping because of the Infinite Energy Reactor or whatever. But your story-wise explanation works.
17 would apparently never run out of energy, so he would win on stamina, but that doesn't mean that Piccolo couldn't damage him. They both looked like they'd taken a beating by the time Cell showed up.

That doesn't mean his stamina won't go down, though, just that his attacks will be consistently "omnistrong." We see #17 was exhausted fighting Piccolo. So while exhaustion means energy dropping for normal people, it doesn't mean that for androids.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:22 pm

I don't think Cell would have looked any different if he absorbed #18 first.

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:30 pm

Perhaps Cell's perfect form would have looked like semi-perfect cell instead. He probably would have been kicking himself for picking 18 first if that was the case.

FistOfTheSun · Post by **FistOfTheSun** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:33 pm

Why would he possibly look any different?

This is the logic some of you guys are using...

Add a tea bag, milk and hot water. What's the result - tea!

Now let's try it differently.

Add milk, hot water then the tea bag, surely it'll be different now!!!

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:36 pm

FistOfTheSun wrote:Why would he possibly look any different?

This is the logic some of you guys are using...

Add a tea bag, milk and hot water. What's the result - tea!

Now let's try it differently.

Add milk, hot water then the tea bag, surely it'll be different now!!!

Well the topic's about 2nd form Cell. Hot water and milk is different from a tea bag and milk.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:20 pm

I don't think he will look anything that different. He might be a bit stronger IMO.