Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

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Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Hujio » Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:36 pm

General Discussion for DragonBall Kai episode 41, aired 24 January 2010

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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:11 am

Now, this episode was a bit surprising. I had completely forgotten about the crab in being eaten by Freeza. I hope TFS catches that. :p

Also, two insert vocals this week? Astonishing. I can't wait to see the pages at Kanzentai.


How hilarious it was, having Saiyan Blood playing when Vegeta powered up to fight Freeza... :P
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by RattleMan » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:20 am

A few paint edits I noticed:

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Cuts include Vegeta coughing up blood and various extended fighting scenes.
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by The Time Traveller » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:45 am

That's the most bizarre thing I've seen from Kai so far...

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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Adamant » Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:51 am

This episode covered a total of 17 pages and one panel, fishing off the remainder of chapter 305 and the entirity of 306.

Notably, the 5 pages and a panel left from 305 were all we got covered before the eyecatcher, as the vast majority of that half was pure filler. The latter half covered all of 306.

Anime-wise, the episode reportedly covered the rest of DBZ episode 84, starting 8 minutes in, as well as all of 85
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by theoriginalbilis » Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:50 am

Other than the censoring, it was a pretty good episode.

I especially liked the 2 insert songs as they were placed in the episode. I wonder what this means for Goku's SSJ transformation?

I'm looking forward to hearing how Nozawa & Horikawa are going to pull off Vegeta's death scene next week!
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:55 am

RattleMan wrote:A few paint edits I noticed:

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Cuts include Vegeta coughing up blood and various extended fighting scenes.
1)So they actually improved a drawing this time... This is what they should be doing when tracing over scenes.
2)Yes, that's to be expe--
3)--Wait...what the hell? Why did they remove blood in one scene... but then add it back in the next when there wasn't any?
4)...Why... did they remove Tenshinhan and Yamcha from the scene...?
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Super Klonoa » Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:55 am

Wait, "Super Dragon Soul" was used this early? O_o

...eh, then again, it was most likely used to foreshadow Goku as the first, true SSJ and it'll get reused at his first transformation scene... I hope. >_>;

Nice to hear "Saiyan Blood" in there as well, btw, even though Vegeta ends up losing.

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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Chuquita » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:32 am

JulieYBM wrote:Now, this episode was a bit surprising. I had completely forgotten about the crab in being eaten by Freeza. I hope TFS catches that. :p

Also, two insert vocals this week? Astonishing. I can't wait to see the pages at kanzentai.


How hilarious it was, having Saiyan Blood playing when Vegeta powered up to fight Freeza... :P
Agreed on the use of the Saiyan Blood. I could see an instrumental of it being used, but the fact that it's the version with the vocals made it unintentionally funny. :3

The crab-eating totally threw me off. I can't believe I forgot about something so hilariously absurd. XD
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Adamant » Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:27 am

Metalwario64 wrote: 3)--Wait...what the hell? Why did they remove blood in one scene... but then add it back in the next when there wasn't any?
There was in the manga, which is probably the best answer you'll get.

And there probably was some in some surrounding scenes, so they made this scene consistent with those..
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by DemonRin » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:12 am

Wow ok... Can you really call it "Censorship" when they remove blood in one scene, but add some that wasn't there before in another?

It was possibly a consistency thing in that case...
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by sangofe » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:21 am

RattleMan wrote:A few paint edits I noticed:

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Cuts include Vegeta coughing up blood and various extended fighting scenes.
... and the censoring continues... who said before "nothing but the hole" had been censored? <_<

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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by DemonRin » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:40 am

sangofe wrote:... and the censoring continues... who said before "nothing but the hole" had been censored? <_<
I repeat: How can you call it censoring when they remove blood from one scene, but add blood in another scene where it wasn't originally there?
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by rereboy » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:54 am

DemonRin wrote:
sangofe wrote:... and the censoring continues... who said before "nothing but the hole" had been censored? <_<
I repeat: How can you call it censoring when they remove blood from one scene, but add blood in another scene where it wasn't originally there?
It wasn`t originally in there in the anime but it was originally in there in the manga.

In one they censored it and in the other they did what they should be doing, they turned it closer to the manga.

Their inconsistency is what troubles me. How can such an incoerent job be a good job?

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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Hujio » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:29 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Also, two insert vocals this week? Astonishing. I can't wait to see the pages at Kanzentai.
That is astonishing. I thought they were saving "An Ultra-super Dragon Soul", but I guess not. Anyway, I have some other things I'd like to get done before I get started on this episode for Kanzentai. But it'll be soon, hopefully. :P
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by bkev » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:50 pm

The added blood honesty looks like it was done in MSPaint... :/
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Shiyonasan » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:46 am

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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:15 am

I suspect this are our penultimate eyecatch. The next/last one should be appearing in a few episodes, and I'm sure it'll look great. :)
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by GotenZ1 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:41 pm

rereboy wrote:
DemonRin wrote:
sangofe wrote:... and the censoring continues... who said before "nothing but the hole" had been censored? <_<
I repeat: How can you call it censoring when they remove blood from one scene, but add blood in another scene where it wasn't originally there?
It wasn`t originally in there in the anime but it was originally in there in the manga.

In one they censored it and in the other they did what they should be doing, they turned it closer to the manga.

Their inconsistency is what troubles me. How can such an incoerent job be a good job?

If I am not mistaken, there were similar edits in DBZ's run on Cartoon Network. I recall (no, I have no reference other than my memories of forum topics long past) the reasoning behind the inconsistent blood edits was that "moving or flowing blood" was innappropriat thus removed and "still/dried" blood was allowed to stay in. Perhaps this is Toei trying to compromise between the censors and the fans.

Or they're just being inconsistent. But I'd like to think the former :lol:
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Re: Kai Episode 41 (24 January 2010)

Post by Rod » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:10 pm

That's pretty weird, they remove blood in one scene, and add blood in another. I liked the first redrawn scene though

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