King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

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King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Ringworm128 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:18 pm

It would explain his and Freeza's hate for the saiyan race. Also we never get told anything about Freeza's Race. If he did come from a race, shouldn't there be others just as powerful as him? he was able to allmost overthrow the entire universe with no compition.

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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Savage68 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:40 pm

Neither Cold nor Freeza hated the Saiyan race. Freeza feared the Saiyans, and was angered whenever any of them (being uncivilized monkeys and all) dared to challenge his own power.

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Post by Phred » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:05 pm

Yeah, that seems silly. ringworm has the right idea, he was just scared when he realized that the rate at which the Saiyan's power grew was higher than his own.
That could add up over time, you know!
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Post by Dayspring » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:31 pm

Judging by Cold's statement about how nobody is allowed to be as strong as them, I figured they killed off the rest of their race.
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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:51 pm

Hmm, that's a pretty interesting theory. Probably not true or likely, but I like your ideas. It could have all been a ruse, getting the Saiya-jin to work for them just to earn their trust and wipe them out, and then passing off the motive to something else entirely. Either it's completely brilliant or it's as ridiculously complicated and retarded as the Palpatine's plot in the Star Wars prequels. I haven't decided yet. Either way, good topic.
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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:18 am

In the Anime, the Tsufrians were confirmed to look like humans.


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Yes, I know. Filler, but the whole concept of the Tsufrians is filler also.

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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Ringworm128 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:54 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:In the Anime, the Tsufrians were confirmed to look like humans.


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Yes, I know. Filler, but the whole concept of the Tsufrians is filler also.
Hachiyak or whatever he was called and Baby didnt look like humans.

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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Savage68 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:01 am

ringworm128 wrote:Hachiyak or whatever he was called and Baby didnt look like humans.
That's because they were both artificially created.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:33 am

Savage68 wrote:
ringworm128 wrote:Hachiyak or whatever he was called and Baby didnt look like humans.
That's because they were both artificially created.
Correct. Normal Tsufrians look just like humans.

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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:47 am

I'm not sure I get the point. The original poster was asking if Cold and his lineage could be a creation of the Tsufru-jin, not Tsufru-jin themselves.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:20 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:I'm not sure I get the point. The original poster was asking if Cold and his lineage could be a creation of the Tsufru-jin, not Tsufru-jin themselves.
Ohhhhhh. I still have to say no, mainly because he was able to reproduce and bleed.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:22 am

Why would that matter? Cell could do both...
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:44 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:Why would that matter? Cell could do both...
Oh, then I guess I've got nothing. :P

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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Darkprince410 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:33 am

ringworm128 wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:In the Anime, the Tsufrians were confirmed to look like humans.


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Yes, I know. Filler, but the whole concept of the Tsufrians is filler also.
Hachiyak or whatever he was called and Baby didnt look like humans.
Hatchyhakku wasn't really even considered a Tsufuruu-jin, but just a living embodiment of Raichii's supercomputer that transformed itself into a humanoid body due to all the hatred Raichii had towards Saiya-jins. As for Bebi, he was an artificial construct created through Tsufuruu-jin DNA, and not a true Tsufuruu-jin.

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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:46 am

Darkprince410 wrote: Hatchyhakku wasn't really even considered a Tsufuruu-jin, but just a living embodiment of Raichii's supercomputer that transformed itself into a humanoid body due to all the hatred Raichii had towards Saiya-jins. As for Bebi, he was an artificial construct created through Tsufuruu-jin DNA, and not a true Tsufuruu-jin.
Hate to be a spelling Nazi here but, there are no elongated (long) vowels in "Raichi" (ライチ) and "Tsufurujin" (ツフル人). So the extra "i" and "u" you've put in those names, are incorrect.

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Post by Darkprince410 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:10 am

Fair enough. My subtitled version of the PtDtS footage kept using the double i and u for Raichi and Tsufuru-jin respectively, so I find myself using those too often, even when knowing they're wrong.

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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Herms » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:38 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Correct. Normal Tsufrians look just like humans.
Although they are very short, only half as tall as Saiyans, which by extension would mean they're only about half as tall as Earthlings.
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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Dayspring » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:37 pm

Herms wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Correct. Normal Tsufrians look just like humans.
Although they are very short, only half as tall as Saiyans, which by extension would mean they're only about half as tall as Earthlings.
Would they be as tall as those intergalactic police that showed up in Dr Slump?
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Re: King Cold a creation of the Tsfurian Race?

Post by Kendamu » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:54 pm

I never made the connection myself. Tsuruf(ians?), Freeza, and his family are completely separate in every way except that they both had experience dealing with the Saiyans. Nothing was ever hinted at otherwise and Dragonball is straight-forward enough that I wouldn't suggest that some sort of conspiracy was there.

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Post by Herms » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:47 pm

Dayspring wrote:Would they be as tall as those intergalactic police that showed up in Dr Slump?
No, those guys were about doll-size, shorter than even Arale. The Tsufruians were roughly child-size. The GT Perfect Files say that the form Baby takes when he reaches Earth and fights with Goten is the same size as an adult Tsufruian, and roughly the same height as kid Goku.
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