Bibidi's Motivations

[Super Sonic]

Hey thought I'd ask since I never got a clear view of it, or need to watch the anime and read the manga again, but any of you guys have any clear ideas on what Bibidi's motivations were for using Buu? Was he trying to conquer the universe with him, or was he just a crazy sadistic monster who wanted to kill everything except himself for some reason?

[Cipher]

As far as I remember, it was kill the gods and conquer the universe.

Wasn't it?

[Herms]

Kaioshin says he created Boo simply by accident. I guess after that he just figured, "hey, I've got an all-powerful monster. Might as well destroy stuff!"

In Kaioshin's kid Boo flashback in the anime, he says something about not wanting to have the Kaioshins boss him around. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, in as much as the Kaioshin seemed to keep their very existence a big secret. It didn't seem like they were the sort to give orders. Unless Bibidi was just their personal servant or something. Which reminds me: where did that witch that accidentally fuses with the Elder Kaioshin come from anyway? Did she wander into the Kaioshin Realm, or was he just hanging out on some random planet that happened to have a witch on it? Maybe the Kaioshins occasionally hire wizards and witches to help them out with stuff, and that witch was one of them? Then Bibidi was another, but he just got fed up with the job?

[Bussani]

In Kaioshin's kid Boo flashback in the anime, he says something about not wanting to have the Kaioshins boss him around. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, in as much as the Kaioshin seemed to keep their very existence a big secret. It didn't seem like they were the sort to give orders. Unless Bibidi was just their personal servant or something. Which reminds me: where did that witch that accidentally fuses with the Elder Kaioshin come from anyway? Did she wander into the Kaioshin Realm, or was he just hanging out on some random planet that happened to have a witch on it? Maybe the Kaioshins occasionally hire wizards and witches to help them out with stuff, and that witch was one of them? Then Bibidi was another, but he just got fed up with the job?

Elder Kaioshin did say that he told the Namekians not to use the dragon balls too much in the past, so maybe they do stick their noses in when magic is going to mess with the cosmic order. And considering Bibidi created Buu by accident, he may have been prone to messing with it too much.

[Mountain]

Wow... that's some really interesting stuff. I bet there is so much that we have yet to learn about not only magic, but the history of the gods. Toriyama could do an entirely new story just on this.

[SSJGoku93]

Bibidi seemed to want nothing more than to watch his monster kill... everything. I would assume after killing off all of the Kaioshin, he would attempt to take command of the universe, but who knows?

[Son_Gohan]

In Kaioshin's kid Boo flashback in the anime, he says something about not wanting to have the Kaioshins boss him around. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, in as much as the Kaioshin seemed to keep their very existence a big secret. It didn't seem like they were the sort to give orders. Unless Bibidi was just their personal servant or something. Which reminds me: where did that witch that accidentally fuses with the Elder Kaioshin come from anyway? Did she wander into the Kaioshin Realm, or was he just hanging out on some random planet that happened to have a witch on it? Maybe the Kaioshins occasionally hire wizards and witches to help them out with stuff, and that witch was one of them? Then Bibidi was another, but he just got fed up with the job?

Well, Uranai Baba had some role in the lower tier of the afterlife, but what could the Kaioshin possibly need them for?

Didn't each Kaioshin also have an assistant like Kibito, which aided them with magic-like abilities?

[Herms]

Didn't each Kaioshin also have an assistant like Kibito, which aided them with magic-like abilities?

Nothing's ever mentioned anywhere about other Kaioshin attendants besides Kibito, though I suppose it's possible that there were. Daizenshuu 4 mentions that Kibito used his abilities to assist "the Kaioshins", implying he was originally the attendant of all of them, not just the East Kaioshin.

[caejones]

Didn't each Kaioshin also have an assistant like Kibito, which aided them with magic-like abilities?

Nothing's ever mentioned anywhere about other Kaioshin attendants besides Kibito, though I suppose it's possible that there were. Daizenshuu 4 mentions that Kibito used his abilities to assist "the Kaioshins", implying he was originally the attendant of all of them, not just the East Kaioshin.

Japanese plural, even?

Do we know of any connection between Bibidi/Babidi and Makai other than Babidi getting Dabura under his control?

[Saimaroimaru]

Didn't each Kaioshin also have an assistant like Kibito, which aided them with magic-like abilities?

Nothing's ever mentioned anywhere about other Kaioshin attendants besides Kibito, though I suppose it's possible that there were. Daizenshuu 4 mentions that Kibito used his abilities to assist "the Kaioshins", implying he was originally the attendant of all of them, not just the East Kaioshin.

It's possible the Kaioshin had multiple attendants at some point in time and Bibidi was just one those attendants who decided he wanted to be the boss. That would explain why the witch was on the planet as she could have been another attendant.

[MR.Mark]

As far as I remember, it was kill the gods and conquer the universe.

Wasn't it?

[Kendamu]

In Kaioshin's kid Boo flashback in the anime, he says something about not wanting to have the Kaioshins boss him around. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, in as much as the Kaioshin seemed to keep their very existence a big secret. It didn't seem like they were the sort to give orders. Unless Bibidi was just their personal servant or something. Which reminds me: where did that witch that accidentally fuses with the Elder Kaioshin come from anyway? Did she wander into the Kaioshin Realm, or was he just hanging out on some random planet that happened to have a witch on it? Maybe the Kaioshins occasionally hire wizards and witches to help them out with stuff, and that witch was one of them? Then Bibidi was another, but he just got fed up with the job?

Elder Kaioshin did say that he told the Namekians not to use the dragon balls too much in the past, so maybe they do stick their noses in when magic is going to mess with the cosmic order. And considering Bibidi created Buu by accident, he may have been prone to messing with it too much.

That's probably the best explanation there is at the moment. They butted in because Bibidi was powerful enough to mess up the entire cosmos if he didn't watch himself.

[Herms]

Japanese plural, even?

It says he's the attendant of zen-Kaioushin, "all of the Kaioshin(s)". So actually it's a lot more explicit than I even remembered. I just remembered it saying Kaioushin-tachi (which it actually does say at a later point).