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Lucas Abner
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by Lucas Abner » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:44 am
At this time, Goku and Gohan use maximum power against Broly, Goten The SSJ was normal, and Goku and Gohan?
which form Gohan and Goku shows that photo?
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by Kaboom » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:47 am
It's possible they were at Super Saiyan 2. Aside from "power of determination" explanations, the only feasible way for them to overpower Broly would be for Goku to jump up to SSj2. However, I'm pretty sure Goku hadn't premiered his capability for the form in the manga yet.
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by Lucas Abner » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:48 am
Yes, moreover, has other image in daizenshuu that shows Goku SSJ2 in movie 10
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by Rocketman » Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:53 am
Super Saiyan 1. Hair always blows back when firing large ki blasts like the Kamehameha.
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by Lucas Abner » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:00 am
Rocketman wrote:Super Saiyan 1. Hair always blows back when firing large ki blasts like the Kamehameha.
But the image itself says they have expanded powers
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by Rocketman » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:05 am
Lucas Abner wrote:But the image itself says they have expanded powers
I see nothing but Broly getting his ass beat by two weak half-blood Super Saiyans.
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by Lucas Abner » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:10 am
Rocketman wrote:Lucas Abner wrote:But the image itself says they have expanded powers
I see nothing but Broly getting his ass beat by two weak half-blood Super Saiyans.
A friend translated the picture, and said that was 3 FPSSJ, and they have overstepped the mark the FSSJ...
I not have more questions, have other photos that show Goku and Gohan SSJ2
No more doubts me

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by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:26 am
They look like Super Saiyan 2 right there.
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by Savage68 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:28 am
Gohan could've been a Super Saiyan 2...but as far as we know for certain, he was only using Super Saiyan 1. SSJ2 Goku hadn't even debuted in the story at the time of this movie's release, so, he was only a regular Super Saiyan.
Goten was probably using SSJ3, though.
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by Lucas Abner » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:28 am
They are, there are other photos which is favors this
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by Son_Gohan » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:02 am
For your information, Goku's SSJ2 form has
3 spikes coming down his head (2 on the sides, 1 on the front), that image only shows one.
Lucas Abner wrote:Yes, moreover, has other image in daizenshuu that shows Goku SSJ2 in movie 10
There is one promotional image from the last Daizenshuu volume which depicts Goku within his SSJ2 hair, and happens to be the only one that does so, as far as I know:
Savage68 wrote:SSJ2 Goku hadn't even debuted in the story at the time of this movie's release, so, he was only a regular Super Saiyan.
Actually, SSJ2 Goku had debuted in the manga before this movie's release, and that's not even counting the brief display against Yakon.
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by Kaboom » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:10 am
Broly had already managed to overpower SSj2 Gohan in the film. Goku transforming seems the only potential way for the day to have been saved.
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by Rocketman » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:13 am
Kaboom wrote:Broly had already managed to overpower SSj2
No sir, I don't believe it. The Daizenshuu can go fuck themselves.
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by Savage68 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:42 am
Son_Gohan wrote:Savage68 wrote:SSJ2 Goku hadn't even debuted in the story at the time of this movie's release, so, he was only a regular Super Saiyan.
Actually, SSJ2 Goku had debuted in the manga before this movie's release, and that's not even counting the brief display against Yakon.
I was trying to focus on the animated series with that post.
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by Darkprince410 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:57 am
Considering that the image you posted is closer to promotional art or a cover for the film rather than actual film footage, it does little to actually prove their forms during the course of the movie (or whether Goku was there at the end in some physical sense for that matter). For example, the cover of "The Plot to Eradicate the Saiya-jin" shows Gohan distinctively in his Ssj2 form, yet at no point does he ever transform into an Ssj2 in "TPtEtSsj". In the same vein, movie 12's cover shows Goku and Vegeta fusing while Super Saiya-jin, when this never actually happens during the course of the movie.
The only visual proof that could say what form they were in is the actual film footage, and for the majority of the beam struggle, the Saiya-jin only appeared in their Ssj forms. During the final burst, Goku seemed to have an Ssj2 hairstyle, but given the nature of the scene (it's a scene of them firing Kamehamehas, and as we've seen in the past, this causes the majority of their hair, short for maybe one or two strands, to be swept back) and the uncertainty that he was even there leaves the form he appears in almost irrelevant.
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by Son_Gohan » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:29 am
Savage68 wrote:
I was trying to focus on the animated series with that post.
How would the anime have anything to do with with the production of the movie?
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by Hujio » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:45 am
Lucas Abner wrote:A friend translated the picture, and said that was 3 FPSSJ, and they have overstepped the mark the FSSJ...
Well then, I hate to have to tell you this, but your friend lied to you. Like I said in the other thread you made, the red text on the right simply says, "
Put forth your power! A three-man father and son Kamehameha!!". There is no mention of Full Power Super Saiyans anywhere in there, or in all that text on the left.
Here's what the text on the left says, courtesy of
Herms:
Even Gohan and Goten's Kamehameha doesn't bother Broli. As the two of them feel that they have lost the battle, the supposedly dead Goku appears before them. At Goku's encouragement, Gohan and Goten power up. Goku assists as well, and as they fire a three-man father and son Kamehameha, Broli is finally obliterated.
Other than that, the only other mention of Super Saiyan is a note that Broli transforms into the Legendary Super Saiyan.
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by hleV » Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:27 am
Son_Gohan wrote:For your information, Goku's SSJ2 form has 3 spikes coming down his head (2 on the sides, 1 on the front), that image only shows one.
I often see Goku have at least 4 bangs in SSJ2 form. Only 3 are shown more often, though.
Goku's hair in that picture looks nothing like SSJ2, besides less bangs on the forehead.
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by Lucas Abner » Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:53 pm
Then they were only used when SSJ maximum power versus Broly?
Lol,If Broly died with two SSJ weak, then your level of power is much weaker than any character
I do not know, for me, if was the only Gohan, this could beat Broly in kamehameha X Omega blast
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by Godo » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:05 pm
Lucas Abner wrote:Then they were only used when SSJ maximum power versus Broly?
Lol,If Broly died with two SSJ weak, then your level of power is much weaker than any character
I do not know, for me, if was the only Gohan, this could beat Broly in kamehameha X Omega blast
The answer is simple. Broly is weak. People seem confused over this a lot of times, and I don't understand why.