Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

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Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by songohan619 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:12 pm

Does anyone consider the story canon?
I sure do, i think it is a great story, and i could be used on a future game to introduce Super Saiyan 3 Trunks.
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:14 pm

Uh...no. Why would you? :?
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by songohan619 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:29 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Uh...no. Why would you? :?
Because it does not interfere in the main story, and i really like the concept of Buu in Trunk`s timeline.
Anyway, my canon is a bit strange, so i understand why this may sound wierd. :roll:
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:35 pm

songohan619 wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Uh...no. Why would you? :?
Because it does not interfere in the main story, and i really like the concept of Buu in Trunk`s timeline.
Anyway, my canon is a bit strange, so i understand why this may sound wierd. :roll:
Oh, OK.
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by smiley » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:40 pm

Since when is canon a matter of opinion?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:20 pm

smiley wrote:Since when is canon a matter of opinion?
Since nothing has ever been said about what is or isn't canon by anyone of authority over the series, including Toriyama. You can say that the manga is the sole canon because it was the original work or whatever you want, but it has never been confirmed.
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:23 am

I still don't think that makes anything and everything fair game, though. But that's just me.
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:37 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:I still don't think that makes anything and everything fair game, though. But that's just me.
I don't think it makes everything fair game either. It isn't like I'm saying Goku going off to have a tea party with a rubber man and a giant dragon after he fought some cyborgs is canon. Some of the media out there depicting new or alternate stories are so full of contradictions that they would never fit in the main story. But if something like a game offers of a decent storyline with relatively few contradictions, I see no reason one couldn't accept it as canon if they want. In the case of Shin Budokai 2, the only thing we know happened after Trunks defeated Cell in his timeline is that he formed the Time Patrol (which is also from a game), so throwing a battle with Buu in between wouldn't be that horrible. IMO
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:52 am

In my personal opinion, Shin Budokai 2's story was actually a gigantic clusterfuck... but I guess that's beside the point.
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:13 am

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:In my personal opinion, Shin Budokai 2's story was actually a gigantic clusterfuck... but I guess that's beside the point.
Honestly, I agree. It could have been handled much better, but if the original poster likes it, then more power to him.
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Michsi » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:37 am

Could someone please give short summary as to what happens in this game? The only think that I could find on the internet was that Majin Buu escpaes in Future Trunks timeline. I find that pretty interesting.

I don't play games but I often look into the "What if" stories on youtube.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:12 am

They are occasionally good for something:
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon ... other_Road
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Michsi » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:18 am

Babidi manages to take control of Piccolo,
Is this where that rumour comes from ?
and in doing so, creates clones of the Z Fighters, Frieza and Cell to stop Future Trunks and the Z Fighters
What? How does taking control of Piccolo lead to clones?

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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:21 am

I think that rumor started before the game was ever released, but I could be wrong. As for the clones, Babidi + magic = not having to make sense I guess.
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:23 am

Michsi wrote:
Babidi manages to take control of Piccolo,
Is this where that rumour comes from ?
No, there was also a game from the 90s, which had Piccolo falling under the "Majin Spell(wasn't it Super Butoden 2?)."
So it most likely originated from there or was influenced by it.

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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Super Vegito » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:32 am

The story line is basically a repeat of the Buu saga (except Future Trunks is there, and Goten/Trunks never fuse), even down to Vegeta becoming Majin (for the same stupid reason, then he tries to kill Fat Buu; as if he hasn't learned already).

The only unique thing about it is that, Babidi makes clones of fighters from Piccolo's memories (now there's 100% Frieza's, Cooler's, Meta-Cooler's, LSSJ Broly's, and Super Perfect Cell's running around, as well as the Z-fighters themselves). It's pretty cheap.

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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Michsi » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:39 am

I always thought that these games were a great opportunity to invent new interesting scenarios, like a movie in the form of a game but they always choose to do different versions of the already existing arcs.

The plan to eradicate the saiyans is the closest thing to a completely new game-story that I know of.

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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:40 am

There's also crap like Burdock coming back from the dead to fight, or something like that. Terrible story. They just wanted an excuse to stick all of their fighters into the plot somehow.
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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:43 am

Dragon Ball Wikia wrote:[...]Vegeta lets himself fall to Babidi's spell again.
Wait, so this story takes place after the Main Story's Buu Arc?
If so, it really makes Vegeta look like an imbecile...
Oh! and this it seems:
Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:There's also crap like Burdock coming back from the dead to fight, or something like that. Terrible story. They just wanted an excuse to stick all of their fighters into the plot somehow.

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Re: Shin Budokai 2:Canon?

Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:45 am

Yeah, Trunks goes back in time and grabs all of the Boo arc characters to help him out. :roll:
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