What would SSJ5 look like?

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What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by SuperAndroid11 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:15 am

What would SSJ5 look like? Anyone have any sketches/theories???

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Re: What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by Luke Groundwalker » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:42 am

Gold SSJ4?

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Post by Savage68 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:12 am

SuperAndroid11 wrote:What would SSJ5 look like? Anyone have any sketches/theories???
Well, there's this.

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Post by Herms » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:13 am

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:26 am

Luke Groundwalker wrote:Gold SSJ4?
That's pretty much what my theory has always been. I read somewhere (no telling if it's true or not though, unless someone here has a source) that SSJ4's design was based on the idea of combining the base "human" form with that of the Oozaru's - hence the fur (though why it's reddish is beyond me) and shaggier hair. So with that in mind, my imagining of a SSJ5 has always been a Super Saiyan combined with the aspects of a SSJ4. Shaggier golden hair and fur basically, not sure what I'd do with the eyes.

Course then, that opens up a whole can of worms about a SSJ6 and 7 being SSJ2 and SSJ3 combined with SSJ4 respectively.
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Re: What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by Innagadadavida » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:36 am

The most popular Super Saiyan 5 fan-design. And I must stress that it is a fan created work, nothing official. Is the white fur/long hair design that was first posted in association with the false "Dragon Ball AF" rumors.
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Most of the AF art you will see today uses this design of Super Saiyan 5. There's a popular fanmanga that takes a lot of the rumors that were spread about the fake Dragon Ball AF and creates something very real (and cool) out of them.
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Post by StarRot » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:43 am

There's also this fan manga, which has SSJ5 in it.

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Re: What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by Herms » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:53 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I read somewhere (no telling if it's true or not though, unless someone here has a source) that SSJ4's design was based on the idea of combining the base "human" form with that of the Oozaru's - hence the fur (though why it's reddish is beyond me) and shaggier hair.
That's more or less what Nakatsuru says in his Golden Warrior interview:
-- The hairstyle and red fur all over the body are what really makes Super Saiyan 4 stand out.
-- Nakatsuru: The thought behind that hairstyle was to take it in a different direction than Super Saiyan 3, and make it wild. I made the fur red because it pretty much just seemed strong; I place a lot of importance on those sorts of impressions (laughs). Right from the planning stage images, the idea had been to bring together Oozaru Goku and Super Saiyan Goku. "Goku with primal power", that sort of thing.

-- So that's why his entire body is covered in fur. In addition to the final design, were there any rough designs?
-- Nakatsuru: There was no design besides the single final draft. It was just that with the colors, and I also made a gold-haired version. However, I thought that black hair looked better, and decided upon that version. The combination of black and red is a more dynamic color scheme.
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Re: What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by SSJSteve » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:23 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:Image
Does anyone know who drew that image? I've seen it around so many times and I think it's a pretty good fan-made design.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:37 pm

I dunno why, but I've never been fond of the silver-haired one from the 'official' AF rumor stuff. It just doesn't look as good to me, never has, even when it's really well drawn.
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Gyt Kaliba wrote:I read somewhere (no telling if it's true or not though, unless someone here has a source) that SSJ4's design was based on the idea of combining the base "human" form with that of the Oozaru's - hence the fur (though why it's reddish is beyond me) and shaggier hair.
That's more or less what Nakatsuru says in his Golden Warrior interview:
-- The hairstyle and red fur all over the body are what really makes Super Saiyan 4 stand out.
-- Nakatsuru: The thought behind that hairstyle was to take it in a different direction than Super Saiyan 3, and make it wild. I made the fur red because it pretty much just seemed strong; I place a lot of importance on those sorts of impressions (laughs). Right from the planning stage images, the idea had been to bring together Oozaru Goku and Super Saiyan Goku. "Goku with primal power", that sort of thing.

-- So that's why his entire body is covered in fur. In addition to the final design, were there any rough designs?
-- Nakatsuru: There was no design besides the single final draft. It was just that with the colors, and I also made a gold-haired version. However, I thought that black hair looked better, and decided upon that version. The combination of black and red is a more dynamic color scheme.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:41 pm

The silver haired version has never sat right with me either. I know a lot of stuff in Dragon Ball doesn't have to make sense, but I'll never under stand why they were given the silver hair, the long (stupid) dangling bang-thing or the red-ish skin... And while I don't like the costume, that has nothing to do with the form itself anymore, as Goku has been given a version of that costume in his AF base form (though with a shirt).
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Re: What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by Scarz » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:05 pm

Meh, I was never too crazy about the SSJ5 look in either of the AF doujins. The wild stringy gray (or silver) hair looks ridiculous in my opinion. I don't like the idea of a transformation higher than SSJ5 to be honest. I mean, where does it stop! Sooner or later you have to hit your limit.

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Post by StarRot » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:10 pm

I'm not too fond of that look either. That one long bang really annoys me.
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Re: What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:23 pm

I would want a SSj5 to be all gold then silver. Something different and back to the roots, I think we have enough forms already. They where better off leaving it at SSj3.
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Post by Michsi » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:55 pm

Scarz wrote:Meh, I was never too crazy about the SSJ5 look in either of the AF doujins. The wild stringy gray (or silver) hair looks ridiculous in my opinion. I don't like the idea of a transformation higher than SSJ5 to be honest. I mean, where does it stop! Sooner or later you have to hit your limit.
The first time I saw the SSJ 3 form, I thoight it was ridiculous and looked terrible. But later I figured that maybe that was the point. A sort of "this is a far as it goes, anything beyod this is even worse , so no more new levels" from the author. May explain also why the GT creators decided against the traditional gold hair design for the SSJ 4. Instead of being level up of a SSJ3 look, the completely redesigned it.

Frankly , 3 transformatiosn were enough. It gets repetitive and unoriginal (no matter how new the new SSJ look is) and it ends up ruining the story imo. I'd do what Toriyama did: look for alternative ways, fusions, etc....

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Post by Fionordequester » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:11 am

The first time I saw the SSJ 3 form, I thoight it was ridiculous and looked terrible. But later I figured that maybe that was the point. A sort of "this is a far as it goes, anything beyod this is even worse , so no more new levels" from the author.
But why did Toriyama even need it anyways? It never actually ended up doing much of anything, and Toriyama could've easily have just increased the power of Trunk's and Goten's fusion so that they didn't need SSJ3 either. I always sort of viewed it as another "off of the top of my head" moment from Toriyama.
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The first time I saw the SSJ 3 form, I thoight it was ridiculous and looked terrible. But later I figured that maybe that was the point. A sort of "this is a far as it goes, anything beyod this is even worse , so no more new levels" from the author.
But why did Toriyama even need it anyways? It never actually ended up doing much of anything, and Toriyama could've easily have just increased the power of Trunk's and Goten's fusion so that they didn't need SSJ3 either. I always sort of viewed it as another "off of the top of my head" moment from Toriyama.
If he dared to introduce the 2nd level of SS, there must have been 3rd, that's just how it works. 2 is not a nice number.

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Re: What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by darkhawk5 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:58 am

My version:
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Post by Herms » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:48 am

Fionordequester wrote:I always sort of viewed it as another "off of the top of my head" moment from Toriyama.
He had it planned out at least prior to Fusion's introduction, since he says in Daizenshuu 6 that fellow manga artist Masakazu Katsura suggested Fusion to him when he was frustrated at how to make his characters even stronger after Super Saiyan 3. So that's at least at least a few chapters after its debut.
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Re: What would SSJ5 look like?

Post by Michsi » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:58 am

Fionordequester wrote:
The first time I saw the SSJ 3 form, I thoight it was ridiculous and looked terrible. But later I figured that maybe that was the point. A sort of "this is a far as it goes, anything beyod this is even worse , so no more new levels" from the author.
But why did Toriyama even need it anyways? It never actually ended up doing much of anything, and Toriyama could've easily have just increased the power of Trunk's and Goten's fusion so that they didn't need SSJ3 either. I always sort of viewed it as another "off of the top of my head" moment from Toriyama.
For the wtf moment? Because everybody was probably expecting a new SSJ form for this saga though not expecting Goku to have achieved it of screen?
Personally, I like to think the author wanted to turn against a pattern he created with the previouse 2 arcs (the new SSJ form saving the say) by having the strongest form be the only one that was usesless in final fight.

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