Fused voices for fused characters?

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Fused voices for fused characters?

Post by Rory » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:53 am

Something I've always been rather conflicted about in the anime, is the use of multiple voice actors for one fused character, especially if the character has been permanently fused (i.e Vegetto).
I've always been in the mindset that the fused being is a totally new character, a new single entity, who really should have his or her own voice.
I'm aware that both the original and FUNimation voice-overs gave Vegetto the voices of both Vegeta and Gokuu, synced up. While it certainly does sound cool (and pretty intimidating), it does remind me constantly that this is 2 characters fused together, and not the new character Vegetto was built up to be (they really seemed to make a big deal out of the Potara earrings being a faultless fusion; never ending, in which a totally new being is formed).
After recently re-watching the Ocean dub's take of Vegetto, I personally thought they handled the voice of the character better than anyone else. It seems to be Bryan Drummond doing an impression Kirby Morrow, which really is fantastic, as it is a fusion of both of the voices, not just the voices overlaying each other. Not to mention Drummond doing the talking really gives the impression that Vegeta is seemingly the dominant character of the fusion (considering his name takes up most of the character, and a lot of his personality).
I've heard that it was Toriyama's idea to take both the characters voices and overlay them, but I can't help but feel Ocean had a better take on how to handle Vegetto's voice.
What do you guys think? Did the dual-voice thing sit easy with you guys, or would you have rather seen another take on the voice (A high pitched Horikawa would have been such a treat, don't you think? :P )?
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Re: Fused voices for fused characters?

Post by SSJ2Engels » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:06 am

I personally never had a problem with it. It does sound annoying sometimes though (especially Vegetto's cocky voice :P), in dubbed versions at least (I'm know for one the Brazilian version that I grew up with can be terrifyingly annoying in this aspect at times :lol:). Never seen the original.
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Re: Fused voices for fused characters?

Post by Herms » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:13 am

Rory wrote:I've heard that it was Toriyama's idea to take both the characters voices and overlay them
Yeah, that's mentioned in Daizenshuu 5.

I don't suppose there's any way to digitally merge two voice tracks into one, like photos in the "If They Mated" sketch on the old Conan O'Brien show?
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Re: Fused voices for fused characters?

Post by kaialone » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:44 pm

Th german dub was really weird with Fusiion voices. At first Gotenks had his own voice (not Goten´s not Trunks´, but his very own), but after one episode or so they started adding this jarring echo effect to his voice, they did the same thing with Vegetto and oddly enough Kibitoshin. Except for the very first time we see Vegetto, when he just has been born, at that part they used a mix of Goku´s and Vegeta´s voice (I dont know why) While I like the concept of fused characters having their own voice, I really REALLY disliked the sound effect , would have been better without it.
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Re: Fused voices for fused characters?

Post by Timo » Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:55 pm

kaialone wrote:Th german dub was really weird with Fusiion voices. At first Gotenks had his own voice (not Goten´s not Trunks´, but his very own), but after one episode or so they started adding this jarring echo effect to his voice, they did the same thing with Vegetto and oddly enough Kibitoshin. Except for the very first time we see Vegetto, when he just has been born, at that part they used a mix of Goku´s and Vegeta´s voice (I dont know why)
Because - if I remember correctly - it's like in the French dub.

First Vegetto scene (one line) = both voice actors
Rest of the show = one voice actor (in this case an all new actor)

The filter on the voices for Gotenks, Vegetto and the Kaioshin/Kibito fusion (yeah, pretty dumb idea, but then again the whole dub was a mess) was there to "mimic" a double voice. I think the Goten (or Dende) voice actor said, that they didn't had the time to do a real double voice with two voice actors.

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Re: Fused voices for fused characters?

Post by Rocketman » Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:07 pm

While I like the idea, it's rather annoying in practice. The voices don't sync up well enough for Vegetto is either language, so it just sounds like they're talking voer each other instead of Vegetto speaking with two voices.

FUNi Vegetto got a lot better in the games, but sadly Kai didn't get that far, so I have to say Ocean Vegetto is the best in the series.

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Re: Fused voices for fused characters?

Post by Attitudefan » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:12 pm

And yet Kibitokai or whatever his name is has one voice and so does the elder Kai. Inconsistent is inconsistent. It makes no sense.
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