Vegetto, Vegito or Vejito?

[dbboxkaifan]

What makes "Vegetto" the correct translation of Bejito?

Vejito or Vegito sound and written are closer than Vegetto, personal opinion.

Unless, you change the E (Vegetto) to I (Vegitto) it's understandable why.

[VegettoEX]

There's no "correct" version of it.

The thing with DragonBall names is that most of them are puns, some with a basis in languages other than Japanese, so you're playing the telephone game back and forth when you try to write them out "in English".

This character's name ( ベジット ) is particularly strange to work with, since it's a combination of two names, both of which are puns (ベジータ --> bejiita from "vegetable" / カカロット --> kakarotto from "carrot"), both in Japanese, both from English words.

So what on Earth do you do with that? Well, do whatever you want.

Let's say you spell the names as "Vegeta" and "Kakarrot" (as we do here on Daizenshuu EX). If you want to be self-consistent with your spelling styles, the trailing "-o" from "-tto" (ット) doesn't actually make any sense to keep. For me, though, keeping a character's intended name pronunciation intact takes precedence over the spelling. Therefore, instead of something like "Veget", we go with "Vegetto" -- it keeps a consistent style of spelling from the name "Vegeta", but more importantly to me, it keeps the character's name spoken aloud as the character's name was (closely enough) in Japanese.

But you could equally well go with something like "Vegerot", as Viz did in their English translation. It's more of an "adaptation" than I'm willing to do, but it's perfectly logical to do. They spell ベジット as "Vegeta", and they spell カカロット as "Kakarrot" (just like we do). To them, though, staying self-consistent with the names was more important than the pronunciation of the name. Since they toss out the trailing "-tto" from kakarotto, they mix their two spellings together and come up with "Vegerot". It keeps the intent of the name in Japanese (a literal fusion of spellings) with their own spellings, but just loses the pronunciation. There's something to be said for their dropping the double "rr" in there, but eh.

If you want to just transliterate ベジット you can do pretty much anything along the lines of:

- Bejitto
- Vejitto
- Vejito
- Vegito
- Vegeto
- Vegetto
- Bejito
- Bejeto
- Begeto
- Begetto
- Bejitto

... and so on.

[sanorin]

Couldn't have said it better.
My personal choice is Vegetto, as in my version of the manga was used like this. But again, I didn't like the spellings of some of the names in the version I have (like Ulom, Kaiyoshin...). So I just choose whatever spelling I like for each character.

[Herms]

Pretty much what Mike said. Although I personally don't see much logic behind dropping the second "t" but not the "o" as well.

There's something to be said for their dropping the double "tt" in there, but eh.

Do you mean double "rr"?

- Vegiito

One of the things about ベジット/Bejitto is that it loses the elongated "i" in ベジータ/bejiita.

[VegettoEX]

Do you mean double "rr"?

Blargh, yeah. Thanks.

One of the things about ベジット/Bejitto is that it loses the elongated "i" in ベジータ/bejiita.

Dunno how that slipped in there. Started typing away too many alternates .

[Gaffer Tape]

What makes "Vegetto" the correct translation of Bejito?

Vejito or Vegito sound and written are closer than Vegetto, personal opinion.

Unless, you change the E (Vegetto) to I (Vegitto) it's understandable why.

What everyone else has already said, but it seems to me that, as far as you are concerned, it depends on how you already spell "Bejiita." Aside from what Herms said about Bejito losing that elonged "ii" sound, there's no reason to keep yourself from being internally consistent. If you spell his name "Vejita" "or "Vegita," then, yeah, the alternatives you listed make sense, but if you already spell his name the common name pun-based way of "Vegeta," then there's the logic for "Vegetto" right there.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I personally use "Vegetto" to stick to the original kana spelling or whatever, and for consistency, I've also switched from using "Kakarrot" to "Kakarotto".

[TonyTheTiger]

I stick to Vegetto out of habit but I think Vegerot is an extremely graceful way to handle it. It gets the idea across much better. And I'm an "idea" junkie. I think if there's a conflict between delivering the same "point" to the audience or sticking to accuracy, I'll take the former 99.9% of the time. But I'm also a creature of habit and have no problem admitting that I prefer Vegetto simply because it's what I've grown accustomed to. I actually really hate Vegito since I don't think it accomplishes either goal particularly well. It just feels random to me unless the surrounding translation uses Vegita or some spelling, which I don't see often.

[Gaffer Tape]

Well, my opinion is that as long as you keep the name Kakarrotto, then using Vegetto both gets the point across and maintains accuracy, so it's a win-win.

[TonyTheTiger]

Yeah, I'm just going by the fact that by the time Vegetto shows up it's loooong after the name Kakarot/Kakarotto/etc. is established. So under the assumption that we've gotten to the point where "uh oh, what the hell do we do now?" the decision becomes one between context vs. pronunciation.

[Travis Touchdown]

I've always been partial to the dub spelling of names.

However, I can't wrap my head around Vegito. Neither dub spelling of Goku or Vegeta has an "i" in it. I've always gone with Vegeto myself.

[Saiga]

Say, VegettoEX, is there a list on the forum or main website that has all the spellings you use here for each character? I've notice you mention a few of the spellings you use for this site, like here and in the Ask Archives, but havn't been able to find a list of them.

[VegettoEX]

Not really. We have our own style guide document, but it's just an internal thing we use. Not really in any shape to share. If and when we get around to that darn name guide, perhaps that'll be sufficient for folks. There's just so much to say and describe...

[Chuquita]

Vejitto's always been my preferred spelling of the name. I got into the series before Funi and Viz had gotten around to the Buu arc, so there were a lot of different spellings out there at the time.

[Herms]

However, I can't wrap my head around Vegito. Neither dub spelling of Goku or Vegeta has an "i" in it.

I think the "i" in "Vegito" is actually the second "i" in "Saibai Man", the one the Funi dub left off. After being orphaned it wandered around the entire dub until Vegetto was kind enough to give it a home.

[Kendamu]

I personally stick to the most common spellings with only a little bit of variation. In the case of Vegetto, I stick with "Vegetto." However, in the case of Krillin, sometimes it's "Kuririn." I always drop the extra "u" in "Gokuu" (to make it "Goku"), but sometimes I'll go with "Son Goku." Straight pun names like "Trunks" is always "Trunks" and never anything like "Torankusu."

And, with Mr. Satan, I prefer to call him "Mark."

[Rory]

I tend to steer more towards Vegerott these days. Considering I don't say "Kakarotto", the name "Vegetto" doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense for me to say.
Nothing is 'correct' however, as Mike said (except for 'ベジット', of course).

[TheDevilsCorpse]

And, with Mr. Satan, I prefer to call him "Mark."

B-b-b-b-b-but, he asked you not to. =P

[Wobbuffet]

Just adding this to the discussion: https://twitter.com/#!/SASAKI_Hisashi/s ... 8806428673

This man was once the editor of Weekly Shonen Jump.
He post some quotes on his twitter accont. He usually uses American names, like the H-word.

[sanorin]

Just adding this to the discussion: https://twitter.com/#!/SASAKI_Hisashi/s ... 8806428673

This man was once the editor of Weekly Shonen Jump.
He post some quotes on his twitter accont. He usually uses American names, like the H-word.

Vegeta and Kakarrot combined... I guess that makes us Vegerot?(Vegito from #Dragon Ball epi.310 vol.26)

I wonder where is he taking those episode and volume numbers from?