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What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by GS7X7 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:35 am

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I never really followed the dub of GT or was really into it so I was kind of surprised it was really popular among a number of fans.

I'm just curious but what did dub fans think of DBGT's dub?

Also, this topic isn't to bash the dub or explain why one version's better than the other, I'd just like to hear what fans of the GT dub thought as they watched it all.
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:52 am

They generally disliked GT as well. One FUNifanboy was all ranty about it:
Well, why I hate Gt? Christ, where to start!

Okay, lets do it like this.

* Animation - I didn't like the different look about it. I liked the animation for Z a hell of a lot better.
* Music - No Bruce Faulconer = GTFON!
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by GS7X7 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:57 am

Well, hardcore fans didn't care much for the original (and view it as essentially fan fiction) so it's not too surprising. Most only sat through GT because they loved DB-Z enough to do so and hoped things got better. (it got pretty awesome near the end) That may be part of why Funimation was so intent on trying to make GT so different.
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by samuraix123 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:59 am

I really didn't have much of a problem with the voice acting. I loved the animation, Hated the music not because it didn't have ''OMG Bruce Faulconer!'' it was just tasteless and bland. hearing the same beats over and over just bogged down the episodes for me. but I did like the voice acting so that's that :)

Edit - I'm amazed by the post that DBZAOTA482 hosted up. I can't believe someone hated GT that much! I mean it wasn't the best thing in the world but come on.
Making arguments like
''The story was lame as ***** because it took place somewhere other than earth.''
Really? you're serous? Guess someone hated the Freeza saga in Z? &
''No Bruce Faulconer = GTFON!''
Okay I like Bruce Faulconer but I'm not crazy about his music. I love a-lot of the Japanese music as well, but it's people like this that gives somewhat of an English audience a bad name fast.
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by Corporate_Nothing » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:01 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:They generally disliked GT as well. One FUNifanboy was all ranty about it:
The thread from which you quoted that post is quite a painful read. They don't seem to be huge fans of proper spelling and grammar, either. :?

I was a "dub fan" when the original VHS singles were first released for Dragon Ball GT, and I lost interest after around the sixth volume. Keep in mind, this was almost a decade ago, but I can't recall having all that extreme of a reaction to GT at the time. It simply bored me.
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by DBZ Mick » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:30 am

Haven't watched it in it's entirety since 2005 but I really enjoyed the dub and for some reason liked the dub music. Got the green bricks and watched parts English with Japanese score last year (which I now vastly prefer of course) and I still liked it.

I'll also say for the time I got into GT in 2003, I liked it slightly more than Z because it felt more fresh and I loved the adventure aspect to the early parts (I had only seen the Cell and Boo arcs and none of DB at the time).

I've heard parts are quite accurate to the original Japanese and most of the voices didn't grate on my nerves like Z so it was all good.


Will have to do a watch of the original Japanese and the dub soon again.
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by GS7X7 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:02 am

Lots of J. fans cried at the ending. I know GT's dub ending was quite different. Did fans of the English dub cry too at the end?
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by samuraix123 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:07 am

I didn't cry but I did feel really bad, but it wasn't the fact that Dragonball was ending but my childhood was ending. seeing Goku fly away and yell for the nimbus cloud and say ''Until we meet again guys!'' was hard :P but when I saw the GT movie I felt even worse because when Vegeta Jr and Goku Jr went Super Saiyan and Vegeta Jr said ''Hey cool I didn't know we both could go blonde'' I felt awful because they have no idea of their heritage.

Edit - Fine! I did get a little teary eyed :lol:
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by DBZ Mick » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:14 am

GS7X7 wrote:Lots of J. fans cried at the ending. I know GT's dub ending was quite different. Did fans of the English dub cry too at the end?
Guess I got a bit teary...
:cry:
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by GS7X7 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:20 am

Ain't no shame in crying at the end, even Chris Psaros cried. (I also cried)
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by DBZ Mick » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:32 am

I honestly can't remember if I did or not, but at the least I remember being sad.

Another thing I remember about DBGT is the wacky theory I had back then.

I thought the Three Star Dragon raped Pan... (if this is too offensive I'll take it down....
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by GS7X7 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:58 am

What made you think that? I know the Fire Dragon? was a real bastard though...
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by gohan2k » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:01 am

Although I'd heard about GT's poor reputation before I watched it I was eager to see it and so when the show came out I excitedly watched the first episode (well of the dub so it was that compilation episode "A Grand Problem") but I found myself just disappointed.

Like many people I think, I have a hard time explaining why. I watched a couple of episodes (of The Baby saga) but I honestly just found it all boring and just gave up watching. It just didn't seem like Dragonball anymore, it had lost it's spark, it's mojo - whatever you wanna call it and was just some random generic action show.

I know other people who've had the same feeling. Clearly whatever it is that the Japanese fans didn't like about GT also happened to the Dub fans from what I've seen, despite Funi's best attempts to convince people otherwise that the show was good ("You think you know GT?")

I've also ever been a fan of the SSJ4 design - I don't buy it as a natural progression from SSJ3.
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Post by Travis Touchdown » Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:20 am

I enjoyed GT very much. Basically it extended the story that I was growing up with, at the time, and I loved Super Saiyan 4, and it has the perfect ending for the series.

I will admit, I did find myself bored through some of the Black Star Dragon Balls Saga. I was definitely counting the episodes in the Super 17 Saga, however, the Baby & Shadow Dragons Sagas had everything that made Z so entertaining to watch.

The first time I watched it, it had that horrible dub soundtrack. The dub soundtrack works beautifully for Z, but whatever they thought they were doing with GT was pure fail.

The Green Bricks fixed that for me though. With GT, I very much so prefer the Japanese soundtrack with my dub. I still think, to this day, that GT had the best soundtrack of all 4 shows.
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:34 am

Yep, GT had one hell of a soundtrack (Japanese version, of course) but GT itself was a blatant cash-in.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by DBZ Mick » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:35 am

What made you think that? I know the Fire Dragon? was a real bastard though...
She was all bruised and beaten and she was unconscious when the Three Star Dragon kidnapped her. And that whole rubbing his face on hers. I was a teen...
:oops:
however, the Baby & Shadow Dragons Sagas had everything that made Z so entertaining to watch.
Hugely agree. I love the Evil Dragon arc a lot- I even liked the mix of goofy dragons with the serious ones.
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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by dario03 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:39 am

I didn't like it. But then again I just don't like most of GT so its not really the dubs fault. Personally the Bebi saga and the very end of GT is the only parts I ever liked. I just couldn't get into the rest of the show. Though I do like Vic Mignogna's translated version of the opening that came out later.

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Re: What did dub fans think about DBGT?

Post by Gonstead » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:18 am

When I was younger I did enjoy watching it.

Looking back on it now... yeah...

GT could of been a great success with the Adventurous element of Dragon Ball combined with the Action of Dragon Ball Z, it's like a match made in heaven!

Honestly, it's not BAD but I do believe GT just doesn't have that re-watch value that Z gave us.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:02 am

I grew up watching all three Dragon Ball series, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT, plus the films/tv-specials.

Despite how detested GT is, I really like the series, its wonderful music, interesting plot, and.. It's more Dragon Ball. :P
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:13 am

Plot, what plot? :P
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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