What special ability would you give Jheese?
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What special ability would you give Jheese?
Now, I've always wondered why Toriyama didn't give Jheese some kind of unique quality, in the form of a special ability or otherwise. I mean, everyone else did. Ginyuu's the Captain who can change bodies with others. Gurd (who has four eyes, although that doesn't seem to do anything but prevent him from wearing scouters) is the smallest and weakest, yet has psychic powers and the power of time-stopping. Recoom is the tank who names all his techniques after himself. Butta is the fastest in the universe. Jheese...has nothing, really. His Crusher Ball doesn't count, and it's only in the anime that he gets a team attack with Butta, but that's still not a special ability.
So what quirk or special ability would you have given Jheese?
So what quirk or special ability would you have given Jheese?
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I guess the Ginyu Special Squad needed another member to make 5 of them, and all they could get was some strong guy without special abilities. They can't all be so special!
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An ability to strech his hair and use it as a weapon.
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He actually isn't. Typing that makes it look like a legit technique unique to him. I think Jeice and Butta are the pair that worked together moreso than having anything special about them individually. Something like that builds more cohesiveness to the group than just everyone having a unique technique and being part of the Ginyu crew.Piccolo Daimao wrote:Butta is the fastest in the universe.
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Afterall, even Jiraiya took a technique from Jeese = D.DBZAOTA482 wrote:An ability to strech his hair and use it as a weapon.

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I always had the impression that Jheese had the best ki attacks. Butta in speed, Reacoom in brute strength, Gurd on psychic powers, and Ginyu could change bodies.
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Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
You know what I mean. That was his gimmick, and I guess (at least, at that point in time), apart from Ginyuu and Freeza (and, eventually, Gokuu), he was, for all intents and purposes, the fastest in the universe. Either way, he's still the fastest member of the Ginyuu Special-Squad, and that's probably something that he uses to his advantage against opponents that may even be stronger than him.OzzyApu wrote:He actually isn't. Typing that makes it look like a legit technique unique to him. I think Jeice and Butta are the pair that worked together moreso than having anything special about them individually. Something like that builds more cohesiveness to the group than just everyone having a unique technique and being part of the Ginyu crew.Piccolo Daimao wrote:Butta is the fastest in the universe.
In the manga, it seemed as if Butta and Jheese only ever worked together because they were the two that lost out on the Roshambo, so they had to stand in the background, and later when Recoom was done in, they were the only two to attack Gokuu.
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I don't think "Purple Comet Crash" is improvisation. Red and Blue. Unless that's anime only, I don't know.Piccolo Daimao wrote:In the manga, it seemed as if Butta and Jheese only ever worked together because they were the two that lost out on the Roshambo, so they had to stand in the background, and later when Recoom was done in, they were the only two to attack Gokuu.
Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
Let's see...
Captain Ginyu: Insanely high Battle Power (Roughly 3x stronger than any of the others!), Body-Swap ability
Recoome: Insane durability (The dude was like some kind of Super-Nappa)
Butta: Insane speed (Aside from the unspoken exception of Freeza, I like to take his word for it.)
Gurd: Telekinesis and time-stopping
So what's left for Jheese? Hmmm... above-average proficiency with Ki attacks, maybe? He's the only one besides Recoome with a named attack, and one that isn't just some gigantic blast named after himself, for that matter. Perhaps his Ki control and formation skills are pretty good. Not much to go on, I know, but...
Captain Ginyu: Insanely high Battle Power (Roughly 3x stronger than any of the others!), Body-Swap ability
Recoome: Insane durability (The dude was like some kind of Super-Nappa)
Butta: Insane speed (Aside from the unspoken exception of Freeza, I like to take his word for it.)
Gurd: Telekinesis and time-stopping
So what's left for Jheese? Hmmm... above-average proficiency with Ki attacks, maybe? He's the only one besides Recoome with a named attack, and one that isn't just some gigantic blast named after himself, for that matter. Perhaps his Ki control and formation skills are pretty good. Not much to go on, I know, but...
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Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
I don't really understand why each one give them titles when Ginyu is actually the best of them. I mean, how Butta is the fastest of the universe when Goku simply outspeed him and it was on equal fight with Ginyu? I mean, how he can be fastest if Ginyu is faster?
Jheese would probably to be the one that goes from ranged fights, his Ki blasts seems to be the strongest or actually the best used. Maybe Long-Range especialist?
Jheese would probably to be the one that goes from ranged fights, his Ki blasts seems to be the strongest or actually the best used. Maybe Long-Range especialist?
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Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
The ability to damage or cause weird, status effect changes on his enemies with sound based powers. By that, I mean he would be able to use his Chi to attack the enemies by yelling (much different from a typical kiai), laughing incredibly loud, or bitching to create powerful shockwaves and many other energy blasts. Aside from typical damage, I think one of the effects of the ability would be to drain stamina/Chi from the opponent to replenish himself.
Another effect would allow Jheese to put an enemy to sleep, giving him an obvious advantage in battle. However, this would be one of those attacks that wouldn't always come into effect. If the enemy was weaker, it'd work most of the time; if the enemy was about as strong as Jheese, it'd work sometimes--and if the enemy was way stronger than Jheese, it'd have a 1/1000 chance of working in battle.
Aside from the effects mentioned, Jheese would have countless status effect abilities through his sound powers, such as slowing down the enemy, confusing them to the point where they'd believe the fight was against 100 Jheese's rather than one, nullifying their access to Chi for a certain amount of time, and many other effects.
It probably sounds weird, but I think it'd be pretty cool.
Another effect would allow Jheese to put an enemy to sleep, giving him an obvious advantage in battle. However, this would be one of those attacks that wouldn't always come into effect. If the enemy was weaker, it'd work most of the time; if the enemy was about as strong as Jheese, it'd work sometimes--and if the enemy was way stronger than Jheese, it'd have a 1/1000 chance of working in battle.
Aside from the effects mentioned, Jheese would have countless status effect abilities through his sound powers, such as slowing down the enemy, confusing them to the point where they'd believe the fight was against 100 Jheese's rather than one, nullifying their access to Chi for a certain amount of time, and many other effects.
It probably sounds weird, but I think it'd be pretty cool.
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Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
Goku was faster than Ginyu despite having a lower power level than him, so perhaps speed isn't entirely dependent on power level. If speed really is Butta's extreme specialty, but it happens to be a department Ginyu is lacking in (he's a pretty big n' bulky guy, and once in Goku's body he praises it for its speed despite only being able to access a fraction of its power), then it's not too much of a stretch to think Butta's faster than him too. Like, if Ginyu's only half as fast as he is strong, but Butta's twice as fast as he is strong.012yArthur0 wrote:I don't really understand why each one give them titles when Ginyu is actually the best of them. I mean, how Butta is the fastest of the universe when Goku simply outspeed him and it was on equal fight with Ginyu? I mean, how he can be fastest if Ginyu is faster?
Goku
PL: 90K
Equivalent Speed: 100K
Ginyu
PL: 120K
Equivalent Speed: 60K
Butta:
PL: 40K
Equivalent Speed: 80K
Something like that. Bit of a stretch, but plausible. And like I said before, Freeza would be the obvious unspoken exception to the whole thing. Nobody's "specialty" is going to make up for the insane overall advantage he holds over them.
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Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
I've always imagined Jeice being the one with exceptional Ki control, like what he did with his Crusher Ball.
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Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
I'd give him the power to kill a yak, from 200 yards away.
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But Ginyu seemed to only be a little slower than Goku where as Butta couldn't keep up at all, actually he couldn't even keep track of Goku.Kaboom wrote:Goku was faster than Ginyu despite having a lower power level than him, so perhaps speed isn't entirely dependent on power level. If speed really is Butta's extreme specialty, but it happens to be a department Ginyu is lacking in (he's a pretty big n' bulky guy, and once in Goku's body he praises it for its speed despite only being able to access a fraction of its power), then it's not too much of a stretch to think Butta's faster than him too. Like, if Ginyu's only half as fast as he is strong, but Butta's twice as fast as he is strong.012yArthur0 wrote:I don't really understand why each one give them titles when Ginyu is actually the best of them. I mean, how Butta is the fastest of the universe when Goku simply outspeed him and it was on equal fight with Ginyu? I mean, how he can be fastest if Ginyu is faster?
Goku
PL: 90K
Equivalent Speed: 100K
Ginyu
PL: 120K
Equivalent Speed: 60K
Butta:
PL: 40K
Equivalent Speed: 80K
Something like that. Bit of a stretch, but plausible. And like I said before, Freeza would be the obvious unspoken exception to the whole thing. Nobody's "specialty" is going to make up for the insane overall advantage he holds over them.
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Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
Yeah, that's anime-only.OzzyApu wrote:I don't think "Purple Comet Crash" is improvisation. Red and Blue. Unless that's anime only, I don't know.Piccolo Daimao wrote:In the manga, it seemed as if Butta and Jheese only ever worked together because they were the two that lost out on the Roshambo, so they had to stand in the background, and later when Recoom was done in, they were the only two to attack Gokuu.
I doubt Ginyuu was using his full power against Gokuu. At least, it certainly didn't seem like it, and the only time he powered up was that brief moment to charge his blast. Jheese mentions Ginyuu's maximum battle power, but he never notes when or if he ever used it.Kaboom wrote:Goku was faster than Ginyu despite having a lower power level than him
But your point about speed not being entirely dependent on strength still stands, though.
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Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
Actually, it seems that even with only 1/4 of the power (23,000), Goku's body was still much faster than Ginyu.dario03 wrote:But Ginyu seemed to only be a little slower than Goku where as Butta couldn't keep up at all, actually he couldn't even keep track of Goku.
Chapter: 287 (DBZ 93), P2.2
Context: after Ginyu steals Goku’s body
Ginyu: “Fuhahahaha…! This body’s even faster!”
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You win an internet.Fin wrote:Heart!
For some reason, I always thought that Jheese was supposed to be "the pretty one". Maybe his special power is that he can chat up the ladies for important information?
Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
Maybe, but I think it just felt faster to him because he was less bulky. When he fights Gohan and Krillin they are able to keep up better than they did with Recoome and I don't think they had powered up to much at that point since the attacks they land aren't very severe. And the beginning of that fight is when Ginyu's new power is stated as 23,000 which should be a decent bit lower than Recoome's.Fox666 wrote:Actually, it seems that even with only 1/4 of the power (23,000), Goku's body was still much faster than Ginyu.dario03 wrote:But Ginyu seemed to only be a little slower than Goku where as Butta couldn't keep up at all, actually he couldn't even keep track of Goku.
Chapter: 287 (DBZ 93), P2.2
Context: after Ginyu steals Goku’s body
Ginyu: “Fuhahahaha…! This body’s even faster!”
But even if Ginyu in Goku's body is faster than Ginyu that still doesn't change how Ginyu could fight Goku just fine where as Butta couldn't even keep track of Goku.
Re: What special ability would you give Jheese?
Who knows? But I think Ginyu would not be able to catch the Dragon Ball that Vegeta sent flying like Batta did.










