S. Kikuchi in DBGT

[dbboxkaifan]

Why wasn't Kikuchi hired to do GT's soundtrack instead of Tokunaga?

[Pokewhiz7]

I heard it's because people were starting to think it sounded antiquated.

[kei17]

Considering that they started using some unrelated pop music as the opening/ending songs, I guess they wanted to freshen up the series and make it look and sound more modern.

[DBZAOTA482]

Considering that they started using some unrelated pop music as the opening/ending songs, I guess they wanted to freshen up the series and make it look and sound more modern.

And how I despised GT's psuedo modern look. Most of the characters were so ugly, even Cell's no safer from this evil trap than anyone else.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Considering that they started using some unrelated pop music as the opening/ending songs, I guess they wanted to freshen up the series and make it look and sound more modern.

And how I despised GT's psuedo modern look. Most of the characters were so ugly, even Cell's no safer from this evil trap than anyone else.

Yeah, this is part of the reason why I didn't like Path to Ultimate Strength's art/animation style and redesigns of some characters.

[Attitudefan]

GT's art is god awful! Big ass pig noses and huge jaws! I could go on.

[DarkPrince_92]

GT's art is god awful! Big ass pig noses and huge jaws! I could go on.

Proportions are a MAJOR problem in GT.

[Attitudefan]

Very much so! I am glad they have moved away from that art style. It was terrible.

[kenisu3000]

Aaaanyway, on the subject of music, it doesn't really bother me that they didn't go with Kikuchi. I love Tokunaga's score, and wish with all the hair-pulling frustration of a thousand Dr. Scratchansniffs they'd put it on CD.

It DOES bother me that, Yamamoto scandal and video games aside, they seem lately to be dead-set on using anyone BUT Kikuchi for their newest animations. With GT the composer-change felt experimental, but this just tells me they don't think Kikuchi's a money-maker for them anymore, and our chances of getting a complete score release slip further and further away. Maybe I'm just biased, but I don't find the latest musical choices (from Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans and Episode of Bardock) memorable at all.

[DBZAOTA482]

Aaaanyway, on the subject of music, it doesn't really bother me that they didn't go with Kikuchi. I love Tokunaga's score, and wish with all the hair-pulling frustration of a thousand Dr. Scratchansniffs they'd put it on CD.

It DOES bother me that, Yamamoto scandal and video games aside, they seem lately to be dead-set on using anyone BUT Kikuchi for their newest animations. With GT the composer-change felt experimental, but this just tells me they don't think Kikuchi's a money-maker for them anymore, and our chances of getting a complete score release slip further and further away. Maybe I'm just biased, but I don't find the latest musical choices (from Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans and Episode of Bardock) memorable at all.

Out with the old and in with the new as it seems.

[kei17]

It DOES bother me that, Yamamoto scandal and video games aside, they seem lately to be dead-set on using anyone BUT Kikuchi for their newest animations. With GT the composer-change felt experimental, but this just tells me they don't think Kikuchi's a money-maker for them anymore, and our chances of getting a complete score release slip further and further away. Maybe I'm just biased, but I don't find the latest musical choices (from Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans and Episode of Bardock) memorable at all.

I guess one of the major reasons why they stopped using the Kikuchi score would be its high usage fee. There are multiple right holders of the Kikuchi score: Toei Animation Music Publishing, Columbia Japan, Fujipacific Music, JASRAC, and Shunsuke Kikuchi. Hiroshi Takaki's scores on recent video games must be able to be used far more cheaply because Columbia, Fuji, and JASRAC are not involved at all.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Considering that they started using some unrelated pop music as the opening/ending songs, I guess they wanted to freshen up the series and make it look and sound more modern.

And how I despised GT's psuedo modern look. Most of the characters were so ugly, even Cell's no safer from this evil trap than anyone else.

I'll have to disagree with that. GT's animation is by far superior to Z's counterpart, even with bad animation. I will admit that episode 43 of GT is horrendous, but that's it. GT's animation teams are the same ones who did Z, and they did much, much better this time around. Because of higher budget they had for GT, they were able to do this much, even with bad animation being better than the previous series. There are some moments that I would rather them GT-ifing DragonBall and DragonBall Z.

[DBZAOTA482]

Considering that they started using some unrelated pop music as the opening/ending songs, I guess they wanted to freshen up the series and make it look and sound more modern.

And how I despised GT's psuedo modern look. Most of the characters were so ugly, even Cell's no safer from this evil trap than anyone else.

I'll have to disagree with that. GT's animation is by far superior to Z's counterpart, even with bad animation. I will admit that episode 43 of GT is horrendous, but that's it. GT's animation teams are the same ones who did Z, and they did much, much better this time around. Because of higher budget they had for GT, they were able to do this much, even with bad animation being better than the previous series. There are some moments that I would rather them GT-ifing DragonBall and DragonBall Z.

O RLY?

Goku Vs Baby

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

If you compare this to the one you posted above, GT blows that out of water.



Both are done by the same studio. The ones in Z are pretty ugly compared to GT.

[DBZAOTA482]

It's not so bad you watch it in-motion. That's one of the things with Last House, the art isn't too well (unless it comes to Cell) but the movements often made up for it but GT destroys that.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

To be fair, the example you've provided had a pretty good in-motion animation too. The choregraphy was great. There's nothing too horrible about that episode.

[DBZAOTA482]

To be fair, the example you've provided had a pretty good in-motion animation too. The choregraphy was great. There's nothing too horrible about that episode.

To me, it looks like poorly made fan animation but each their own I guess.

[Pokewhiz7]

To be fair, the example you've provided had a pretty good in-motion animation too. The choregraphy was great. There's nothing too horrible about that episode.

To me, it looks like poorly made fan animation but each their own I guess.

He means the drawings themselves are bad, but in motion it's animated fluently and nice.
Ach, I think I'm misunderstanding. Someone can delete this if they want.

[Attitudefan]

No, GT is terrible. Dragonball is better than both Z and GT. Reverting to GT would be disgraceful! I hated it then and hate it now. Like I said, they had pig noses and huge Leno chins; their foreheads were way too flat. Their proportions are really odd in GT art.

[JulieYBM]

Dragon Ball GT had great art, right up there if not surpassing Dragon Ball Z's.

But hey, this is a music thread. So, on topic: it's a shame Kikuchi wasn't available to return for Dragon Ball GT. There probably would have been another big chance for him to compose more new music, so I have to wonder how that would have affected GT's popularity back in the day if that bit of continuity had been retained.