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A question of preference.

Post by Super Gazellian » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:19 pm

This may just be me but I've noticed something about myself when it comes to anime and manga or anything related. I always prefer the first version of something I've watched/read. So whenever I try to get into the alternate version of series be it the manga or the anime I just can't get into it as much. This means there are lots of manga I've read but never give the anime more than two episodes, and visa-versa.

The first version of Dragonball(Z) I saw was the Funimation dub. So this is my favourite version. I have brought manga volumes but only if I see them when I'm in town and I have enough money on me to spend, I've never felt any urge to begin collecting the full series.

And now for the controversial part... My only exposure to the Japanese dub is from clips I've seen on youtube or content only in japanese like Super Dragon Ball Z (though I recently saw a dubbed version on youtube :o I live in England so maybe only America got the dub?) and I've gotta say, I don't like it. I know it's probably ignorant of me not to appreciate the original work and I know people hate it when people complain about Nozawa's voice but it all just doesn't feel as good as the Dragon Ball I first watched.

So my question is:

1. What was the first version of Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z you watched or read?

2. Which version is your favourite?

And as a bonus:
3. Do you think what I've said holds any truth? Would you agree that your first exposure heavily influences your preferences? Not just for Dragon Ball but for all franchises?

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Re: A question of preference.

Post by VegettoEX » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:37 pm

My first version was FUNimation's English dub of Dragon Ball Z. Specifically it was episode two in September 1996.

My favorite version is... well... do I need to explain...?

I don't think it holds any water. At all. It's a matter of how much you get involved with something and if you're interested in seeking things out on a deeper level. My first exposure to Fullmetal Alchemist was not the manga, but the first TV series. I still haven't read the manga, but I vastly preferred the second TV series in every single last way. My first exposure to X-Men was the 90s cartoon, but I vastly prefer X-Men Evolution in every single last way.

But that's me specifically looking at things closer and really examining them and enjoying them alongside other folks. If I just casually watched those shows, yeah, I might still "like" the "first one" the "best" in all cases.

In some cases, yeah, that first version you're exposed to MIGHT actually be your favorite one. Will it ALWAYS be? Depends on your enthusiasm level and the qualities of the shows, of course! There's no universal answer, here :).
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by Herms » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:55 pm

My order of exposure is basically Funi dub -> Viz manga -> Japanese anime -> Japanese manga, but my order of preference is Japanese manga, Viz manga, Japanese anime, Funi dub. So this shows, I don't know, something. That I like manga, I guess.
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:01 pm

Super Gazellian wrote:This may just be me but I've noticed something about myself when it comes to anime and manga or anything related. I always prefer the first version of something I've watched/read. So whenever I try to get into the alternate version of series be it the manga or the anime I just can't get into it as much. This means there are lots of manga I've read but never give the anime more than two episodes, and visa-versa.

The first version of Dragonball(Z) I saw was the Funimation dub. So this is my favourite version. I have brought manga volumes but only if I see them when I'm in town and I have enough money on me to spend, I've never felt any urge to begin collecting the full series.

And now for the controversial part... My only exposure to the Japanese dub is from clips I've seen on youtube or content only in japanese like Super Dragon Ball Z (though I recently saw a dubbed version on youtube :o I live in England so maybe only America got the dub?) and I've gotta say, I don't like it. I know it's probably ignorant of me not to appreciate the original work and I know people hate it when people complain about Nozawa's voice but it all just doesn't feel as good as the Dragon Ball I first watched.

So my question is:

1. What was the first version of Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z you watched or read?

2. Which version is your favourite?

And as a bonus:
3. Do you think what I've said holds any truth? Would you agree that your first exposure heavily influences your preferences? Not just for Dragon Ball but for all franchises?
1. The first version that I saw was the Ocean dub, and I began watching it in 1998.

2. I prefer the English dub of Kai above everything else.

3. I completely agree that someone's first exposure heavily influences one's preferences. Not just in anime, but in everything...the example I usually use is the question of who one's favorite actor to play James Bond was. Not always, but in many cases, whatever Bond someone saw first will always be their favorite Bond. Same thing with Superman and Batma--okay, off-topic, sorry. But yes, I absolutley agree that someone's first exposure heavily influences one's preferences.

For me--with regard to DBZ, at any rate--it also goes back to the dub vs. sub debate about anime in general. I don't like to read TV shows. It takes me out of the moment. Not to the point of making the experience torturous, but to the point where the experience isn't thoroughly enjoyable anymore. What I always say when trying to explain my view is this: in Japan, Japanese people don't watch anime subtitled. They just watch the show and experience it, rather than read it. The idea behind dubs is that they were meant to replicate the experience of watching a show rather than reading it. It's too much multi-tasking for my brain to both watch and read something at the same time...not like I can't handle it, I mean that it's too much multi-tasking for me to enjoy the experience.

Now, having said all that...I agree that someone's first exposure heavily influences people, but does it definitively define one's preferences for the rest of their life? Nope. Not necessarily. People break away from whatever their initial exposure to something was, that's not uncommon at all. However--and again, I'm speaking purely from personal experiences--part of the reason I was so reluctant to check out the Japanese version for a while was because whenever I watched clips of it, it felt "wrong" to me. Not even bad, just "wrong." Incorrect. I had no sentimental attachment to the Japanese cast like I did to the English cast. It felt just as foreign as it would be for me to watch the Japanese dub of "Star Wars." To me, the English version felt like the "original version," and the Japanese version felt like a "dub," even though it was technically the exact opposite.

On the other hand, I do highly recommend that you watch the Japanese version. Full episodes, too. It's not my favorite version, but I've watched a lot of it, and many parts of it I really enjoy, like the music. In fact, my first exposure to the Japanese version was when I listened to the "English Voices With Japanese Music" 5.1 Surround Sound audio track on the Orange Brick DVD bx sets. I fell in love with Kikuchi's music from the first note I heard of it, and I greatly appreciated the moments of silence, too. I had a sentimental attachment to the English voices, but never really to the English music. So I said to myself, "Well, if the music is this good, I'll check out the voices, too." Make sure you watch full episodes, though. I know where you're coming from, but it's hard to appreciate clips when you don't see everything that set up that clip, y'know?

Lastly...I suppose the logical question one might ask after reading this is, "Well, if you have a sentimental attachment to the English voice cast that you heard in the Z dub, then why do you like the Kai dub better?" The simple answer to that is because I think the writing and acting are much, much better in the Kai dub. I may be attached to the English voice cast, but that doesn't mean I don't value accuracy in a dub. I stuck with the original Z dub for a while because that was the only way I had to watch the show rather than read it. Now that a new dub is out, with better acting, better writing, and a more faithful representation of the original story, I'll gladly take that in a heartbeat.
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by penguintruth » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:20 pm

My first exposure to the show was the Ocean English dub. Here's a little secret: I hated the Japanese version at first. Thought it was utterly horrifying. That Japanese Goku! Totally inappropriate!

Then I watched a few episodes. Gave it a chance. And it all sunk in. I heard the little nuances in Nozawa's performance. I heard Ryo Horikawa, Toshio Furukawa, Hiromi Tsuru, et al. Most of it was Buu arc material, fansubbed. It was utterly engrossing. I asked myself, "Why can't the English version be like this?"

But yeah, I understand. I totally understand. It's difficult to get past that first version you watch. Took me a long time to warm up to the FMA dubs. Years! My first watch was the Japanese version.

I think a lot of people continue to cling to the English dub of DBZ because that's the version they're most familiar with. It explains why so many people were offended that when the Kai dub came around, Goku wasn't declaring how he was truth. Most people's view of DBZ is based on the dub. They don't even think of giving the Japanese version a try. To them, they grew up coming home after school to watch that one version of the show, anything else is just wrong to them. It's an offense to them to present it any other way.

DBZ in Japanese has a real spirit to it, a real emotion, a sense of wonderment. It's more operatic. The English version feels stripped of that. It just feels like a weird action cartoon with a few more quirks than others.
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by Shnuki » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:50 pm

My first exposure to Dragon Ball was through the French version with Polish voice-over. After a few years, I watched the FUNimation's English dub and then the Japanese version. And my favorite one is actually the last version I saw - the original one (beside Kai, I like the new English dub better).

What you said may hold some truth, though, because I play the DBZ games with English voices (I didn't have a choice at first, though - Budokai 2 and 3 only had the English voices). When I got Budokai Tenkaichi 2, I switched the voices to the Japanese ones, but something felt off for me, so I switched them back to the English ones.

So... Yeah, I like watching the show in Japanese and play my video games in English, no matter how weird it may be.

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Re: A question of preference.

Post by funrush » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:00 pm

Super Gazellian wrote:This may just be me but I've noticed something about myself when it comes to anime and manga or anything related. I always prefer the first version of something I've watched/read. So whenever I try to get into the alternate version of series be it the manga or the anime I just can't get into it as much. This means there are lots of manga I've read but never give the anime more than two episodes, and visa-versa.

The first version of Dragonball(Z) I saw was the Funimation dub. So this is my favourite version. I have brought manga volumes but only if I see them when I'm in town and I have enough money on me to spend, I've never felt any urge to begin collecting the full series.

And now for the controversial part... My only exposure to the Japanese dub is from clips I've seen on youtube or content only in japanese like Super Dragon Ball Z (though I recently saw a dubbed version on youtube :o I live in England so maybe only America got the dub?) and I've gotta say, I don't like it. I know it's probably ignorant of me not to appreciate the original work and I know people hate it when people complain about Nozawa's voice but it all just doesn't feel as good as the Dragon Ball I first watched.

So my question is:

1. What was the first version of Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z you watched or read?

2. Which version is your favourite?

And as a bonus:
3. Do you think what I've said holds any truth? Would you agree that your first exposure heavily influences your preferences? Not just for Dragon Ball but for all franchises?
1. Funi dub of Buu arc. I was pretty little.
2. Japanese dub, when I realized that the Funi dub is garbage.
3. Yes, I actually used to prefer Funi, then I watched some of the Japanese episodes.

You've said you've only seen clips? Try watching a few episodes. Clips doesn't do it justice.

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Re: A question of preference.

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:23 pm

Super Gazellian wrote:1. What was the first version of Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z you watched or read?
I started with the Greek dub of Dragon Ball (not from the beginning, since I wasn't even born when DB came to Greece), followed by DBZ, since the day I started watching TV cartoons. Then, a few years ago, the first episodes of GT in Greek, which made me to watch the whole thing with the FUNi dub a year later. Thank god Kai wasn't dubbed back then (it was still at Freeza arc), when I discovered the Japanese version, which made me to re-watch everything in Japanese.
As for the manga, I started buying the first volumes (seems like they are from UK), but the comic store, the only one with Dragon Ball manga, got closed. :cry: So, I had to rely on the crappy scanlations. :x
Super Gazellian wrote:2. Which version is your favourite?
The original Japanese version of the anime is now the only version that I like. I can't stand hearing other voices.
Super Gazellian wrote:3. Do you think what I've said holds any truth? Would you agree that your first exposure heavily influences your preferences? Not just for Dragon Ball but for all franchises?
It's not true for me, but definitely for others. So, I guess it depends on the individual.
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by Gonstead » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:40 pm

In order of what I watched.

1. Original Funimation Dub with Ocean Group actors.

2. English Kai definitely. Ocean and Funimation in-house for nostalgia.

3. It does hold some merit to a degree with what version you watch first before trying another version. Ultimately though it depends on the person.
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Post by Zestanor » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:55 pm

1. The first thing I saw was the Funi dub of Dragon Ball, in April 2010.

2. My favorite is the Japanese anime. (I really want to read the manga, but until Viz revises their translation or something, the anime will suffice.) After watching the dub of DB throughout that summer, I started listening to the podcast here. I was saddened that the Kikuchi music was scrapped for the Z dub, and the dub + Kikuchi score was not on the internet. Over the next few months, the podcast crew and this forum indoctrinated me into the Japanese version. I was resistant at first; I didn't like how the dub was such a punching bag. But for some reason I took y'alls word for the quality of the original. In November-or-so (2010) I was completely settled on the matter, and I bought the Dragon Boxes. I watched my first episode of Dragon Ball Z, and I haven't looked back. Shortly after, I returned to Dragon Ball in Japanese through the blue bricks.

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Re: A question of preference.

Post by soulnova » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:01 pm

First exposure to Dragon Ball? Latin Spanish version of Intertrack, 1995.

Yes, is still my favorite.


At least in my case, the first version usually holds the spot of favorite over the others. I do love the DB manga, but simply, I grew up with only the Latin Spanish dub until very recently.
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by Makaioshin » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:18 pm

I started with Funimation's dub of Dragon Ball Z.
My favorite version is the manga. I do like the anime in Japanese but I don't own it anymore. It is much too long so I figured I wouldn't watch it again. I guess the movies will be in second place whenever I buy them.

I couldn't make sense of what I wrote before. Hopefully this is better. :(
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Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:16 pm

1. FUNi dub w/ Ocean Group cast.

2. Anime-wise, the Japanese version. I haven't read the manga in its entirety, and would like to, but I don't have the money to import the Japanese manga right now, and I ain't touching the Viz English version until they get their heads out of their asses and give us a proper uncut version.

3. It varies greatly from person to person. For me personally though, no, and it certainly doesn't help that once I found out that FUNi altered so many things about the show (replacing the score, changing dialogue just to include retarded jokes and lame silver-age superhero speeches, etc.), I felt that my intellegence was insulted.
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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:21 pm

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:...and it certainly doesn't help that once I found out that FUNi altered so many things about the show (replacing the score, changing dialogue just to include retarded jokes and lame silver-age superhero speeches, etc.), I felt that my intellegence was insulted.
I feel the same way. On the other hand, one question I always pose--not even to prove a point, just for the sake of interesting discussion--is whether or not you'd still feel that your intelligence was insulted if you were unaware of the changes FUNimation made?
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Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:38 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:I feel the same way. On the other hand, one question I always pose--not even to prove a point, just for the sake of interesting discussion--is whether or not you'd still feel that your intelligence was insulted if you were unaware of the changes FUNimation made?
Good question.

Can't really say for sure, though. Maybe it wouldn't be so much that I'd feel insulted, but more like I'd outgrow and lose interest in it more easily. I have watched and liked some rather corny and stupid shows when I was a child, but a lot of that stuff is unwatchable to me now as an adult. Stuff needs to have certain qualities to them to hold my interest at this point.

Plus, on top of that, I'm a purist, at least on a product-by-product basis.
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by Bussani » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:21 pm

Pretty interesting questions that have already received some pretty interesting answers.
Super Gazellian wrote:1. What was the first version of Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z you watched or read?
The FUNimation dub. The first one.
2. Which version is your favourite?
The manga. I've only read the Viz translation all the way through, and I don't know enough Japanese to read the Japanese version properly yet, but I much prefer the manga over any versions of the anime.
3. Do you think what I've said holds any truth? Would you agree that your first exposure heavily influences your preferences? Not just for Dragon Ball but for all franchises?
For me, no. I quite often prefer the manga regardless of what I see first, although there are exceptions. As much as I like the One Piece manga, and as much as I think it's better paced than its anime counterpart, I just have more fun watching the anime for some reason. I saw the anime before I read the manga, but that's probably a simple coincidence.
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:56 pm

1. I was first introduced to the Funimation dub.

2. Japanese version by far.

3. Not for Dragon Ball.

I only got into the series about 4 years ago, and I just switched to Japanese about a year ago. So I haven't watched the Japanese version for very long, but I like it the most! :)
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:37 pm

1. What was the first version of Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z you watched or read?

Dragon Ball Z from the Ocean dub was my first viewing of the series. Though I might have first noticed the series from budokai when my former friend showed me it.

2. Which version is your favourite?

Kinda of a tie. I love the English Kai cast and the Japanese cast. Though I can only watch the Japanese Z from cut clips. I can't stand the original pacing anymore. I would love to buy the full manga when we get a good translation, I hear nothing good from anything Viz.

3. Do you think what I've said holds any truth? Would you agree that your first exposure heavily influences your preferences? Not just for Dragon Ball but for all franchises?

Of course. I didn't like Kai or the Japanese until I actually sat down and watched them. I personally don't like the english z nearly as much as I used to. I kinda hate toonami for screwing up the fan base. It's not toonami's fault, but that's all I hear from the so called "real fans". They are more like the complete opposite. I see comments either disgracing Kai or the Japanese, and supporting the original garbage dialogue. People have gone far as to disgrace Toriyama while supporting english z(say bad things about Toriyama like he is wrong or stupid). Some people don't even know the Japanese names and think games like shin budokai screwed up Paikuhan. Or when they believe Bruce Faulconer is a godsend and makes the entire show when he really doesn't. I still like some of what he and his uncredited co-workers did . It is a real pet peeve when I see people call themselves fans and say or do those things. I wonder if people now a days even know what GOOD voice acting is?
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Re: A question of preference.

Post by DBfan4life » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:10 pm

1) The first version of Dragonball Z I watched was the ocean dub and it was also the third episode where Goku and Piccolo were fighting Raditz. Found it on TV by chance and thank goodness I did because it seriously changed everything hahaha.

2) My favorite version I'd have to say is the original japanese. Don't get me wrong, I will switch back to english every now and again, but if I had to choose it would have to be the original voices. I do like the english version in kai, though.

3) I think what you said holds truth, definitely. It's usually what your first exposed to that you like, but if you do give other languages a chance you might see that there are differences in the emotion given to the characters that are not given in your preferred language. However, I do believe that everyone should at least give the original language a chance before deciding to stay away from it and I don't mean a single 3 minute youtube clip. I mean watch at least a couple episodes or even just your favorite ones and who knows, you might actually end up liking it. If you don't, then you don't.

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Re: A question of preference.

Post by OutlawTorn » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:08 am

1. What was the first version of Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z you watched or read?

I originally saw the Ocean-voiced FUNimation dub of Dragon Ball Z, either the second or third episode, which featured the end of the fight with Raditz and Goku's death.

2. Which version is your favourite?

If you would have asked me several years ago before the season sets and Dragon Boxes came out, I would have gone with the dubs featuring the Ocean cast without fail. Now, however, in part because it is the only version available to own legally, even with all of its many flaws I prefer the FUNimation dub with the Kikuchi score.

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3. Do you think what I've said holds any truth? Would you agree that your first exposure heavily influences your preferences? Not just for Dragon Ball but for all franchises?


I think it can but it's not an absolute. I can remember my earliest exposure to Star Trek was my dad asking me if I wanted to watch it with him, but it didn't interest me in the slightest. I think I was around five at the time, but eventually I did start watching Star Trek, so that first impression of a "boring" show my dad wanted me to watch didn't really stick and ultimately had no influence on my preference.

My first exposure to the Takara produced Transformers series were in raw Japanese and when the DVDs were released in the UK a number of years ago, the Headmasters set included the abysmally bad English dub which Hasbro was adamant it not be included on the recent North American release. I would never have been able to sit through the dub and prefer the Japanese.

I don't like to keep bringing it up as I know my opinion is likely in the minority, but it has relevance so it bears repeating... I am really not a fan of Masako Nozawa, particularly the screaming and whatnot, so it drives me away from watching Dragon Ball in Japanese for very long. I'm sure people can relate as there are likely voices they cannot stand in whatever version of an anime which completely turns them off. So, while I don't doubt that the Japanese version is superior to the dub, the dislike of Nozawa has rendered it largely unwatchable for me.

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