I watched Dbz Kai many times. Since Day 1 everyone knew Dbz Kai still had some filler unless you didn't read the manga. Looking back on it. It seems only the bad filler is cut out. That and the insanely long filler. Examples
Yamcha,Tien, and Krillin saving a village from fire and fighting random saiyans. Bad filler and created plot holes in future events.
Gohan's training. Not a bad filler but kinda long.
Pretty much most of Namek's filler but kept some of the shorter filler there. Such as Bulma and Ginyu and some of SSJ Goku vs Freeza(100%).
The entire Garlic Jr saga. But this was because it wasn't in the manga
A lot of the Cell Saga filler is still there. The filler in this arc wasn't as dreadful long and bad as the Freeza and Namek Arcs but it would't hurt to cut them out instead of keeping them cause they wasn't bad or long.
We don't know about the Boo saga yet but since it might be an intentional release only I can expect higher quality then Z quality but a lot of filler still inside. Especially since Boo Arc Anime was kinda differ from Boo Arc Manga
Does DB Kai only cut out the bad filler?
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Re: Does DB Kai only cut out the bad filler?
The only filler I miss watching Kai is some of the Saiyan arc filler (so I don't own that part of Kai) and the flashback to King Vegeta taking on Freeza that we get in the Freeza arc.
We still don't have to watch Fake Namek, Bulma's crab adventure (no, not the one where she needed to get the special shampoo... that was a personal matter), 19 episodes of Goku fighting Freeza, Garlic Junior, Cell shelters, and billions of establishing shots (just millions).
Frankly, I'll be glad when Kai covers the Buu arc so I don't have to sit through several episodes of Great Saiyaman (he's better in small doses), Mr. Popo being able to take on Goten and Trunks, the time-wasting Dragon Ball hunt episode, Goku and Vegeta taking on worms inside Buu's body, and that bullcrap episode where Goku's taking care of pterosaur eggs (it's fun seeing the rest of the cast dancing, though).
We still don't have to watch Fake Namek, Bulma's crab adventure (no, not the one where she needed to get the special shampoo... that was a personal matter), 19 episodes of Goku fighting Freeza, Garlic Junior, Cell shelters, and billions of establishing shots (just millions).
Frankly, I'll be glad when Kai covers the Buu arc so I don't have to sit through several episodes of Great Saiyaman (he's better in small doses), Mr. Popo being able to take on Goten and Trunks, the time-wasting Dragon Ball hunt episode, Goku and Vegeta taking on worms inside Buu's body, and that bullcrap episode where Goku's taking care of pterosaur eggs (it's fun seeing the rest of the cast dancing, though).
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Re: Does DB Kai only cut out the bad filler?
Like Penguintruth mentioned in another thread, the Goku and Majin Vegeta fight is amazing, and it's full of filler, so I hope they leave it intact. Also, I think they should keep the Base Vegetto stuff. Cutting out all the crap in Buu's body would improve the arc, and like said above, trimming down the Great Saiyaman stuff would be nice.
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DB Kai cuts out whatever filler they feel like cutting out. I mean, they took out semi-important ones like the Driver's ED episode.
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Re: Does DB Kai only cut out the bad filler?
Ugh I hope they cut most of that Majin Vegeta and Goku fight.. All they do is punch and ki blast each other..
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So, what do you want them to do? Stare each other for 10 minutes like in Goku vs Freeza?Jackal puFF wrote:All they do is punch and ki blast each other..
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Does DB Kai only cut out the bad filler?
Come on, there's tons of great maneuvering around in the battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPGuxKZak3EJackal puFF wrote:Ugh I hope they cut most of that Majin Vegeta and Goku fight.. All they do is punch and ki blast each other..
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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I demand someone to remake that video & use the DBoxes as the source instead of the fucking Season Sets.penguintruth wrote:Come on, there's tons of great maneuvering around in the battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPGuxKZak3EJackal puFF wrote:Ugh I hope they cut most of that Majin Vegeta and Goku fight.. All they do is punch and ki blast each other..
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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That's one of the best fights in the franchise O_o. Punch and Ki blast? What else are they suppose to do? Talk and stare?Jackal puFF wrote:Ugh I hope they cut most of that Majin Vegeta and Goku fight.. All they do is punch and ki blast each other..
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TheSunDestin is starting to remake all his videos with Dragonbox. He re uploaded the entire Cell Games in Dragonbox instead of Orange Bricks like he did last time.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I demand someone to remake that video & use the DBoxes as the source instead of the fucking Season Sets.penguintruth wrote:Come on, there's tons of great maneuvering around in the battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPGuxKZak3EJackal puFF wrote:Ugh I hope they cut most of that Majin Vegeta and Goku fight.. All they do is punch and ki blast each other..
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TheGmGoken wrote:TheSunDestin is starting to remake all his videos with Dragonbox. He re uploaded the entire Cell Games in Dragonbox instead of Orange Bricks like he did last time.
That's great!James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Check for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSunDestin/videosDBZGTKOSDH wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:TheSunDestin is starting to remake all his videos with Dragonbox. He re uploaded the entire Cell Games in Dragonbox instead of Orange Bricks like he did last time.
He even got Goku scarred of needles in Dragonbox
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Just noticed that the videos are mirrored... Fuck, ruined everything. 
Well, what I care to see is the fights in one place, instead of having to skip through the episode for the fighting scenes. At least I can see them like that in DBox quality though.
Well, what I care to see is the fights in one place, instead of having to skip through the episode for the fighting scenes. At least I can see them like that in DBox quality though.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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For the most part the fights are just one place. Unless the dialog is needed like Cell vs Goku and Gohan vs Cell. Yup Dbox is awesomeDBZGTKOSDH wrote:Just noticed that the videos are mirrored... Fuck, ruined everything.
Well, what I care to see is the fights in one place, instead of having to skip through the episode for the fighting scenes. At least I can see them like that in DBox quality though.
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Well, it's an okay fight but it's not like it's something we haven't seen before.penguintruth wrote:Come on, there's tons of great maneuvering around in the battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPGuxKZak3EJackal puFF wrote:Ugh I hope they cut most of that Majin Vegeta and Goku fight.. All they do is punch and ki blast each other..
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
Re: Does DB Kai only cut out the bad filler?
It's a very important fight in terms of the plot, and it's also the long-awaited rematch between Goku and Vegeta that was basically entirely off-panel in the manga.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Well, it's an okay fight but it's not like it's something we haven't seen before.penguintruth wrote:Come on, there's tons of great maneuvering around in the battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPGuxKZak3EJackal puFF wrote:Ugh I hope they cut most of that Majin Vegeta and Goku fight.. All they do is punch and ki blast each other..
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Do you guys now consider Kai as more " canon " than the original DB anime?
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I like the Buu arc dragon ball hunt. Call me immature if you want, but Muten Roshi passing gas still makes me laugh.
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I do. To a degreeMjb1985 wrote:Do you guys now consider Kai as more " canon " than the original DB anime?
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Of course, it's closer to the manga.Mjb1985 wrote:Do you guys now consider Kai as more " canon " than the original DB anime?
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