The Kiri system

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The Kiri system

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:22 pm

Ok, I'm gonna say this now, this question will require you to think that the base Saiyans are weaker than Freeza. Now that we have that out of the way, lets begin. How do you think the Kiri system scales? According to Dabura, 200-300 Kiris are required to destroy a planet. We've seen Freeza destroy a planet with a power level of 530,000. If that were to scale linearly we would find that Yakon is rocking a BP of 2,120,000. Now Goku has a Kiri reading of 3,000. That would mean Goku's power is at 7,950,000. Suppressed or not, that's really really really low. Much lower than what his base power should be at this point in time. I could use some help scaling this system. I would like to find a system that would make Yakon weaker than Freeza and Goku weaker than 2,800,000,000. I'm not sure if this is possible since I have failed to make things work so far, but some help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: The Kiri system

Post by hleV » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:42 pm

Are you under assumption that 3,000 Kiri is Goku's full SS power?

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Post by Tyro » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:50 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:According to Dabura, 200-300 Kiris are required to destroy a planet.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this bit anime-only?

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Post by Strife1 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:57 pm

If you look at the Kiri system as power levels, then there is no possible way for Yakon to be weaker than Freeza. I'm not sure, but maybe it may be something different than power levels, something along the lines of life force, potential energy, or energy levels in general. Amount of Ki that can be produced, etc. And maybe Goku was nowhere near his full power when Babidi read their Kiri readings. Goku handled Yakon pretty well before going Super Saiyan.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:01 pm

hleV wrote:Are you under assumption that 3,000 Kiri is Goku's full SS power?
No, but there is still the problem of 200-300 Kiris being required to destroy a planet. That's doesn't translate to a very big battle power.
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:According to Dabura, 200-300 Kiris are required to destroy a planet.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this bit anime-only?
I'm fairly certain it's in the manga. I could be wrong though.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:05 pm

We also don't know if Kiris scale linearly. It could be an exponential scale.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:07 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:We also don't know if Kiris scale linearly. It could be an exponential scale.
If it is, do you have an example of how that could potentially work without it getting way out of hand. I've tried an exponential scale, but it always gets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big.
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Post by Marco Polo » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:10 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:We also don't know if Kiris scale linearly. It could be an exponential scale.
If it is, do you have an example of how that could potentially work without it getting way out of hand. I've tried an exponential scale, but it always gets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big.
The thing is, you've tried. I'm pretty sure Toriyama didn't bother.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:11 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:We also don't know if Kiris scale linearly. It could be an exponential scale.
If it is, do you have an example of how that could potentially work without it getting way out of hand. I've tried an exponential scale, but it always gets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big.
The thing is, you've tried. I'm pretty sure Toriyama didn't bother.
I know, but I'm sure something can work.....
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:12 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:We also don't know if Kiris scale linearly. It could be an exponential scale.
If it is, do you have an example of how that could potentially work without it getting way out of hand. I've tried an exponential scale, but it always gets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big.
You're asking the wrong person if you want good math :lol:
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:21 pm

Where's Rocketman when you need him :lol: .
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:32 pm

I look it like this.

Kiri would be the United States customary systems of measurement

Power levels are the metric system

Kiri makes Zero sense

Power Levels do make sense(And most of the power levels stated can go into 5 and 10. While it's true for the Kiri(s) stated as well. I don't think a lot of Kiri's end in a 0 or 5 seeing as how bad they are).

So the scales in Kiri are messed up and a bit weird. While Power levels makes more sense. I don't even think Kiri has SSJ as 50x. It could be bigger or smaller.

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Post by Herms » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:01 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:I'm fairly certain it's in the manga. I could be wrong though.
It's only in the anime.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:03 pm

Really? Huh, well I guess there's no need to adjust :lol: .
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