And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form...

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And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form...

Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:48 pm

I was scanning through the interviews on the main site and came across something really interesting.
It said that the main reason why Toriyama decided to do the SSj as a transformation was his assistant was taking too long to do the black fill on Goku's hair...

What??? :shock:

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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by Kaboom » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:51 pm

Well, that's at least the reason why Super Saiyan LOOKS the way it does, not necessarily why it exists in the first place.
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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by linkdude20002001 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:52 pm

Toriyama's lazy! :D

I can't think of anything, but I'm pretty sure there were other times as well when Toriyama made decisions based on his laziness. :p
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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:20 pm

^I concur.
Kaboom wrote:Well, that's at least the reason why Super Saiyan LOOKS the way it does, not necessarily why it exists in the first place.
Toriyama mentions that this was the reason why the transformation existed, not necessarily the concept of a "Super Saiyan". There's a difference between the two. Goku could've been called a Super Saiyan without having a transformation at all. Vegeta had already referred to Goku as a Super Saiyan, but of course the transformation didn't come in until after.
I wipe it off the tile, the light is brighter this time, everything is 3D blasphemy.
My eyes are red and gold, the hair is standing straight up, this is not the way I picture me.
I can't control my shakes, how the hell did I get here? Something about this, so very wrong.
I have to laugh out loud, I wish I didn't like this. Is it a dream or a memory?

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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by Gokuden » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:27 pm

Hair is the hardest part when drawing an anime character.
That time your teacher asked you to draw Cell in biology class.
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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:04 pm

Gokuden wrote:Hair is the hardest part when drawing an anime character.
So drawing Krillin is easy then
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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by TheRed259 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:32 pm

What you are actually trying to say is why Super Saiyan Goku has gold hair (white in the manga). The main reason why this happened is because people would understand better in the black & white manga that Goku has trasformed. But okay, not drawing the hair black it's on the perks...

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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by Gokuden » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:41 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Gokuden wrote:Hair is the hardest part when drawing an anime character.
So drawing Krillin is easy then
All you need to do is draw circles. ;)
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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:06 pm

TheRed259 wrote:What you are actually trying to say is why Super Saiyan Goku has gold hair (white in the manga). The main reason why this happened is because people would understand better in the black & white manga that Goku has trasformed. But okay, not drawing the hair black it's on the perks...
Yes, but he mentions later on that he'd full-filled the promise to his assistant. The black hair was taking the longest, and they probably almost missed deadlines.
I wipe it off the tile, the light is brighter this time, everything is 3D blasphemy.
My eyes are red and gold, the hair is standing straight up, this is not the way I picture me.
I can't control my shakes, how the hell did I get here? Something about this, so very wrong.
I have to laugh out loud, I wish I didn't like this. Is it a dream or a memory?

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Re: And the main reason Toriyama came up with the SSj form..

Post by RocktheDragon » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:13 pm

Ketchup_Revenge wrote:I was scanning through the interviews on the main site and came across something really interesting.
It said that the main reason why Toriyama decided to do the SSj as a transformation was his assistant was taking too long to do the black fill on Goku's hair...

What??? :shock:

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If that's really the full unequivocal reason for why SSJ exists then it's worthy of a great chuckle. But I'd say it's only part of the reason and though we all know how lazy Toriyama had been throughout the course of drawing DB I'm sure it isn't the full story... :P
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