Was Freeza Too Similar To Vegeta?

[thatdbzguy]

What makes some people not like Freeza is how he seemed to be too similar to Vegeta as a villain.

Do you feel as though that is true? Why or why not?

[Marco Polo]

I feel as though that is false, because I have never seen anyone think Freeza is too similar to Vegeta as a villain. Could you link to a particular thread or post where someone says that? Thanks in advance.

[Gonstead]

What makes some people not like Freeza is how he seemed to be too similar to Vegeta as a villain.

Apart from you, I've never heard anyone, internet and real life, make such a claim. If you're going to make such a thing, actually provide evidence for it.

Do you feel as though that is true? Why or why not?

Hell no.

Vegeta is the prince of a savage race of aliens and prides himself on this fact even though their species is pretty much near-extinct. He's brash, generally not a person you would like to be associated with but still a valued ally. He's a loner by nature but he'll put up with being around others if it helps him towards a shared goal.

Frieza is many things. He's a racially insensitive businessman who runs an entire empire based solely on committing mass genocide on planetary, even solar system scales and selling the planets to the highest buyer. People are too scared to appose him because he rules through absolute fear based on his sheer power, which naively leads him to believe to be the "strongest in the universe" as he claims to be and which ironically in the end leads to his downfall when he meets Goku and dies at the hands of Trunks (Or Goku depending if you include the original timeline).

[TheGmGoken]

Birthday turn up with Goten.

Anyways no. Not at all. In fact the only similarities is that they're Princes. Freeza more of a smart ruler who overpowers his opponents. He doesn't get pissed as fast as Vegeta. Freeza is more vicious and have a different Speaking pattern. Vegeta a hot head.

[UltraPerfectCellZ]

I've never once thought Freeza was too similar to Vegeta.
Apart from their differing positions in the Dragon world, I feel that there are sufficient differences in their characters to make them both unique.
Vegeta was more of a cunning and sneaky evil, he had ambition and was willing to risk anything for it. Freeza felt much colder yet more eloquent in his brutality. His insecurities and paranoia also help to make him unique from Vegeta.

[Freeza Soldier #156]

What makes some people not like Freeza is how he seemed to be too similar to Vegeta as a villain.

Do you feel as though that is true? Why or why not?

Not at all. Their characters and motivations have never felt similar to me in any way. Yes, they both want the Dragon Balls to wish for immortality, but the similarity pretty much ends there.

What makes some people not like Freeza is how he seemed to be too similar to Vegeta as a villain.

This is how all of your posts begin: "Many people complain about", "Many people say", " Many people don't like X because of Y". Who are these people? Where are these comments/complaints? Many of the topics you bring up are complaints that I've never heard anyone speak of until you bring them up and suddenly they are universal complaints. This one is a good example. I know a lot of people who don't like Freeza, but I have never heard anyone say it's because he's similar to Vegeta (or a "Vegeta Clone" as you have said in other threads.) I'm not saying that these people/complaints don't exist, but the biggest problem with your posts is that you like to make these claims but bring no evidence to the table to back them up. All of these "Many people/fans think/say" etc. posts with no evidence just makes it sound like you are trying to speak for the fandom. It also makes it really difficult to have a stimulating discussion that doesn't just devolve into the types of conversations that all of your other threads have turned into.

[Blade]

They've both got a sizable superiority complex, both in terms of race and social standing, and both initially want the same thing - immortality from the Dragonballs.

But apart from that? Nah - not really. Their other motives, and the way in which each goes about them, are completely different.

[DoomieDoomie911]

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say this, but I can kind of see why people would think this. Aside from a couple of similarities though, they really are totally different characters.

[ABED]

Freeza's motivated by desire to control, whereas Vegeta just wants physical power.

[Hellspawn28]

They both wanted the Dragon Balls to be immortal. Other then that, not really.

[theoriginalbilis]

Not really. Other than a couple similar motivations, they're totally different characters.

You can make an argument for Cell being very similar to both Vegeta and Freeza, but that's another topic...

[Sin]

I agree with those who say that other than a few objectives such as wishing for immortality, I don't see a similarity. Although I do think that Freeza is likely how Vegeta would have turned out if Planet Vegeta hadn't been destroyed.

Speaking of the wish for immortality, why exactly did Freeza need it? If he thought he couldn't be beaten, and assuming that cell deterioration could be stopped using technology (looking at you Mecha Freeza), I can't see what the big deal was.

[TheGmGoken]

I agree with those who say that other than a few objectives such as wishing for immortality, I don't see a similarity. Although I do think that Freeza is likely how Vegeta would have turned out if Planet Vegeta hadn't been destroyed.

Speaking of the wish for immortality, why exactly did Freeza need it? If he thought he couldn't be beaten, and assuming that cell deterioration could be stopped using technology (looking at you Mecha Freeza), I can't see what the big deal was.

Rulers of universe forever?

[FortuneSSJ]

They both wanted the Dragon Balls to be immortal. Other then that, not really.

Besides this, nothing.

I never heard/read anyone say that either.

[DBZAOTA482]

Does Vegeta have a faux-gentleman domeaner, is he a sadist, is he a coward at heart, or does he have a particular long-term goal?

[Blade]

Does Vegeta have a faux-gentleman domeaner, is he a sadist, is he a coward at heart, or does he have a particular long-term goal?

It's hard to say, given that his objectives change along with the circumstances around him. When he first meet him, all he wanted was immortality, which we later learn is as much about avenging his race and killing Freeza as ruling the Universe, but once he has been revived after Freeza killed him and learned that Goku had transformed into a Super Saiyan, surpassing him and testing his own strength were his only goals. Well, until he settled down and had a family and home he was willing to fight to protect, that is.

It's yet another example against the often held belief that Dragonball characters are shallow, one dimensional and suffer from no character development.

[Flame Dragon]

This is how all of your posts begin: "Many people complain about", "Many people say", " Many people don't like X because of Y". Who are these people? Where are these comments/complaints? Many of the topics you bring up are complaints that I've never heard anyone speak of until you bring them up and suddenly they are universal complaints. This one is a good example. I know a lot of people who don't like Freeza, but I have never heard anyone say it's because he's similar to Vegeta (or a "Vegeta Clone" as you have said in other threads.) I'm not saying that these people/complaints don't exist, but the biggest problem with your posts is that you like to make these claims but bring no evidence to the table to back them up. All of these "Many people/fans think/say" etc. posts with no evidence just makes it sound like you are trying to speak for the fandom. It also makes it really difficult to have a stimulating discussion that doesn't just devolve into the types of conversations that all of your other threads have turned into.

Maybe he gets his "feedback" out of YouTube comments. It doesn't surprise me, since the average YouTube poster is extremely ignorant. There are even people that still believe the stupid Dragon Ball Hoshi hoax, supposedly a new series, but it's just footage from Dragon Ball Heroes mixed with Videogame animated cutscenes to create a fake opening.

[ABED]

Does Vegeta have a faux-gentleman domeaner, is he a sadist, is he a coward at heart, or does he have a particular long-term goal?

It's hard to say, given that his objectives change along with the circumstances around him. When he first meet him, all he wanted was immortality, which we later learn is as much about avenging his race and killing Freeza as ruling the Universe, but once he has been revived after Freeza killed him and learned that Goku had transformed into a Super Saiyan, surpassing him and testing his own strength were his only goals. Well, until he settled down and had a family and home he was willing to fight to protect, that is.

It's yet another example against the often held belief that Dragonball characters are shallow, one dimensional and suffer from no character development.

I don't think Vegeta really wanted to rule anything.

[Marco Polo]

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