Bibidi being Babidi's father

[OWmyDragonBallz]

So as the title implies, my question is if Bibidi was actually Babidi's father in the manga? Or was that just a mistranslation or an anime original thing on TOEI's behalf?

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

According to a recent full color interview, Bobidi is Bibidi's doppelgänger, iirc.

[Herms]

So as the title implies, my question is if Bibidi was actually Babidi's father in the manga? Or was that just a mistranslation or an anime original thing on TOEI's behalf?

Babidi is said to be Bibidi's child many times throughout the manga. So no, it's not a mistranslation or anime-only thing. But in the manga Bibidi is simply mentioned by name, and only puts in a physical appearance in an anime-only flashback, if that's what's confusing you.

As mentioned, in one of the Boo Full Color Comics Q&As Toriyama said that Babidi is more like Bibidi's doppelganger than a true child, but this is new information that was never mentioned in the main series itself. Here's the relevant bit:

Q6: How was Babidi born?

Toriyama: Bibidi split in two!
Rather than a child, he’s more like Bibidi’s doppelganger. He’d split up whenever there was anything difficult for just a single person to do. He could increase the number of doppelgangers even more, but his magical powers would weaken in proportion. Now that Bibidi is dead and Babidi has become the only one, he’s regained all the original magical power.

[OWmyDragonBallz]

So as the title implies, my question is if Bibidi was actually Babidi's father in the manga? Or was that just a mistranslation or an anime original thing on TOEI's behalf?

Babidi is said to be Bibidi's child many times throughout the manga. So no, it's not a mistranslation or anime-only thing. Bibidi is never pictured in the manga, and only puts in a physical appearance in an anime-only flashback, if that's what's confusing you.

As mentioned, in one of the Boo Full Color Comics Q&As Toriyama said that Babidi is more like Bibidi's doppelganger than a true child, but this is new information that was never mentioned in the main series itself. Here's the relevant bit:

Q6: How was Babidi born?

Toriyama: Bibidi split in two!
Rather than a child, he’s more like Bibidi’s doppelganger. He’d split up whenever there was anything difficult for just a single person to do. He could increase the number of doppelgangers even more, but his magical powers would weaken in proportion. Now that Bibidi is dead and Babidi has become the only one, he’s regained all the original magical power.

Ahh, thank you for the clarification. There are lots of twisted misinformation's roaming around and I just wanted to make sure. I know this is off topic, but the DB minus page when Freeza is mentioning "SSJG", was that a mistranslation or no? Or was it just SSJ he brought up?

[Herms]

I know this is off topic, but the DB minus page when Freeza is mentioning "SSJG", was that a mistranslation or no? Or was it just SSJ he brought up?

Freeza mentions Super Saiyan God in addition to regular Super Saiyan.

[RandomGuy96]

So as the title implies, my question is if Bibidi was actually Babidi's father in the manga? Or was that just a mistranslation or an anime original thing on TOEI's behalf?

Death Battle is just spreading misinformation again.

[Kaboom]

I've just started combining both accounts in my head, and assuming that "budding" like this is simply how Bobbidi's race reproduces.

[Angelus]

I need to read DB Minus then, with all this talk about SSJ God that early on in the series.

[Herms]

I've just started combining both accounts in my head, and assuming that "budding" like this is simply how Bobbidi's race reproduces.

I don't know, Toriyama doesn't flat-out say it, but I kind of got the sense that making those sorts of doppelgangers was one of Bibidi's magical powers as a wizard, if only because magically-produced doppelgangers are a common feature of folklore. Either way, Toriyama seems to offer the doppelganger comment as a clarification rather than an outright refutation ("he's more like a doppelganger than a child", rather than "he's a doppelganger, not a child"), so it presumably is meant to jive with what's said in the series. It's not like with his new origin for Boo, where he flat-out says the original explanation given in the series is incorrect and his new explanation is the true state of things.

I need to read DB Minus then, with all this talk about SSJ God that early on in the series.

There's really only a single passing reference to Super Saiyan God, as part of a general conversation about the Super Saiyan legend.

Also, while DB Minus is set before the start of the main series, it was only created recently, as a bonus chapter for the Jaco collected edition released earlier this year. Super Saiyan God was one of the new concepts introduced in BoG, and wasn't mentioned in anything earlier.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I need to read DB Minus then, with all this talk about SSJ God that early on in the series.

It's only mentioned this once.

[kaialone]

Its kinda weird though, because Babidi isnt only called Bibidi´s child, he also kept referring to Bibidi as "Papa", meaning that he at least thought of Bibidi like a father. Plus the overall way he is confused about how Boo works and looks like makes it just seem so odd that he supposedly is a split of part of Boo´s "creator".
I mean, I´m pretty sure I remember Babidi saying he only knows what he does know about Boo from reading "Papa´s" notes.
Unless I´m misremembering and that was all anime only stuff, but I dont think I am misremembering.

In short, while this isnt a "oh the actual manga was wrong" retcon kinda thing like with "Bibidi didnt create boo", it does raise a lot of questions imo

Not that most people about Babidi the way I do so does it even matter :VV

[OWmyDragonBallz]

Doesn't the series actually state that Boo is Bibidi's creation? I remember it saying that. But Toriyama now seems to imply the opposite. Has he forgotten his own series?

[Kamiccolo9]

Doesn't the series actually state that Boo is Bibidi's creation? I remember it saying that. But Toriyama now seems to imply the opposite. Has he forgotten his own series?

He doesn't "imply" anything. He flat-out says that the manga's portrayal of the events is wrong.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yeah, as Kamicollo said, he hasn't forgotten as.

How did Bibidi make Majin Buu? What process was there, what were Buu’s ingredients, etc…
Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibidi made him, the truth is that one called “Buu” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibidi merely knew the means of calling Buu from out of his long slumber. Since the current Buu is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Buu was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.

[Rocketman]

I need to read DB Minus then, with all this talk about SSJ God that early on in the series.

It's only mentioned this once.

Man, I love how this SSG shit is getting crowbar'd in like it's supposed to be there.

[mAcChaos]

Doesn't the series actually state that Boo is Bibidi's creation? I remember it saying that. But Toriyama now seems to imply the opposite. Has he forgotten his own series?

Isn't it Kaioshin who only ever says that? So it's possible that he just didn't know any better.

I mean one day Kid Buu and Bibidi just appear and start wrecking everything, it's reasonable to assume that it was Bibidi's creation since he controls him. But they would have no idea what Bibidi was doing behind the scenes in his headquarters.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Both Kaioshin and Bobbidi say it.

[Darkprince410]

It's also very, very possible that Bibi-di, after calling Buu forth from his slumber, lied about having created Buu to brag and boast about how amazing of a wizard that he is. And, as his son/doppelganger, Babi-di just believed that Bibi-di had created him.