Besides Frieza, what villain was most worthy to come back?
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Besides Frieza, what villain was most worthy to come back?
My personal pick is Dr. Gero. My reasoning:
1. It is pretty easy to come up with a story that explains his revival, such as him having more than one robotic back-up, his memories being digitally preserved ala Braniac or Ultron, or him being wired to some mechanical apparatus (e.g. Cooler + Geti Star).
2. Out of all the villains, besides maybe Frieza, he has the biggest grudge against Goku. He was willing to bring Armageddon just to have him killed. Years of research going into his revenge too. This obsession can actually be made justifiable with an adequate backstory too. His contributions to the RRA might have been his life's work, and the minute they collapsed and his reputation (which could have been positive among the public) was tarnished, he lost everything. To get more gritty, perhaps his son was killed as a result, either by the RRA or those against him after his identity was revealed. Something like that.
3. He's a genius! His strengths work very differently than other villains because he does not rely only on his own power and ki. Instead, he creates creatures that can fight for him (just has to get them to not kill him first...). He can create more than that too--perhaps an entire colony and other means to wreak havoc. They can get really creative without straying too far away from the fighting at the same time, imo. I feel that can lead to some good (and darker) stories.
4. Shaved eyebrows + hoop earrings + fabulous mustache = badass villain.
Other candidates:
Kid Buu - Not really an entire story revolving around him, but I wouldn't mind a cliche inner consciousness battle between him and Uub. There could be humor there to break the un-originality. This is Kid Buu, after all. Of course, first they'd need to make a movie or arc starring Uub in the first place...
Broly - In all honesty, I wish this character was "rebooted" and given a completely new backstory (not that I trust anyone at Toei, or Toriyama, with such a task). He's too cool looking--which has given him an absurd fanbase--to be the sort of garbage character he ended up being. Broly should be the Original Super Saiyan, not a LSSJ. I can't believe that's even a thing.
Babidi - Kind of like Gero in a sense, only instead of science, he uses magic. I wouldn't really like Babidi back, but what if, maybe, after Bibidi and Babidi are killed... an original wizard is reborn. One that had split himself into Bibidi first. No? Eh... regardless, if there were ever an Uub arc/movie, I would like the main villain to be one excelling in magic. Don't ask why.
King Piccolo - He works. I can't explain why. But I feel he does. Maybe not as the poster villain, but as far as returning goes, I see it.
1. It is pretty easy to come up with a story that explains his revival, such as him having more than one robotic back-up, his memories being digitally preserved ala Braniac or Ultron, or him being wired to some mechanical apparatus (e.g. Cooler + Geti Star).
2. Out of all the villains, besides maybe Frieza, he has the biggest grudge against Goku. He was willing to bring Armageddon just to have him killed. Years of research going into his revenge too. This obsession can actually be made justifiable with an adequate backstory too. His contributions to the RRA might have been his life's work, and the minute they collapsed and his reputation (which could have been positive among the public) was tarnished, he lost everything. To get more gritty, perhaps his son was killed as a result, either by the RRA or those against him after his identity was revealed. Something like that.
3. He's a genius! His strengths work very differently than other villains because he does not rely only on his own power and ki. Instead, he creates creatures that can fight for him (just has to get them to not kill him first...). He can create more than that too--perhaps an entire colony and other means to wreak havoc. They can get really creative without straying too far away from the fighting at the same time, imo. I feel that can lead to some good (and darker) stories.
4. Shaved eyebrows + hoop earrings + fabulous mustache = badass villain.
Other candidates:
Kid Buu - Not really an entire story revolving around him, but I wouldn't mind a cliche inner consciousness battle between him and Uub. There could be humor there to break the un-originality. This is Kid Buu, after all. Of course, first they'd need to make a movie or arc starring Uub in the first place...
Broly - In all honesty, I wish this character was "rebooted" and given a completely new backstory (not that I trust anyone at Toei, or Toriyama, with such a task). He's too cool looking--which has given him an absurd fanbase--to be the sort of garbage character he ended up being. Broly should be the Original Super Saiyan, not a LSSJ. I can't believe that's even a thing.
Babidi - Kind of like Gero in a sense, only instead of science, he uses magic. I wouldn't really like Babidi back, but what if, maybe, after Bibidi and Babidi are killed... an original wizard is reborn. One that had split himself into Bibidi first. No? Eh... regardless, if there were ever an Uub arc/movie, I would like the main villain to be one excelling in magic. Don't ask why.
King Piccolo - He works. I can't explain why. But I feel he does. Maybe not as the poster villain, but as far as returning goes, I see it.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
Raditz, Goku really is heartless to watch his brother suffer in HFIL for so long.
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Cell. He's essentially the manifestation of every villain Goku had ever defeated and every mistake Goku and Z-Fighters ever made, coming back to bite them. Also Norio and Damean as Cell are God-like.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
No one. I would rather a new villain but If I had to choose a old one to come back. Freeza is the only valid choice.
Because who he is and his importance to the series.
Because who he is and his importance to the series.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
Radditz indeed. It always annoyed me a bit that he was brushed away so fast and never mentioned ever again. I mean he is used to reveal Son Goku's origin and the fact that he is his brother, which is fine, but then simply dies and is never heard from again.
I always would have liked him to come back in some way or another, either evil or becoming good with the latter opening possibilities of more interesting interaction with Son Goku. Could make for interesting constellations.
I always would have liked him to come back in some way or another, either evil or becoming good with the latter opening possibilities of more interesting interaction with Son Goku. Could make for interesting constellations.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
This. The idea of bringing a villain back in the way that this upcoming movie is doing only works if it's Frieza and no one else.FortuneSSJ wrote:No one. I would rather a new villain but If I had to choose a old one to come back. Freeza is the only valid choice.
Because who he is and his importance to the series.
Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
I gotta say I agree with this, Cell's my choice too as he's my favourite villain. But realistically I think it makes the most sense for Frieza to be the one to come back.Lord Beerus wrote:Cell. He's essentially the manifestation of every villain Goku had ever defeated and every mistake Goku and Z-Fighters ever made, coming back to bite them.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
If Raditz came back, it wouldn't be hard to make him a threat. Just say that he's been training in HFIL and managed to go Super Saiyan, and since his hair is already superhumanly long, he went straight to SSJ3.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I swear, the Gohan fanboys won't be happy unless he just bends over and farts all of Freeza's men into the sun.
fadeddreams5 wrote: Honestly, this would only make me slightly satisfied. To make me happy, he'd also have to grab Freeza by the tail, drag him to the nearest toilet, and give him swirlies until he submits and calls him "daddy."
Gohan deserves it.
Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
If Raditz were to ever come back, I wouldn't mind him turning good. I'd much rather see that than Freeza or Cell as a hero. Euugh
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I would only like Raditz back in a comedy special.
Besides being Goku's brother, he has nothing going for him. No followers, no special gifts, and a generic villainy personality. That alone makes a comedy with him brilliant. lol.
Besides being Goku's brother, he has nothing going for him. No followers, no special gifts, and a generic villainy personality. That alone makes a comedy with him brilliant. lol.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
The Red Ribbon, but with nuclear weapon or something like that.
Or a Piccolo Evil...
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Either Raditz or Cell. I'd like to see Raditz interact with the Sons and possibly bring out Goku's super hidden jealousy streak. Cell cuz he's like what Lord Beerus said and he can make Gohan relevant again.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
None of them. I guess Raditz coming back could be interesting if it's as any capacity other than a main villain/real threat, but I don't think any of them are worthy. Including Freeza.
Maybe the evil-er versions of Majin Boo because Vegeta mentioned the possibility and it doesn't require a revival wish, but then he'd be missing a fundamental piece of himself with Pure Boo gone.
Maybe the evil-er versions of Majin Boo because Vegeta mentioned the possibility and it doesn't require a revival wish, but then he'd be missing a fundamental piece of himself with Pure Boo gone.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
Non,the reason Freeza works is cause of his history with the Saiyans and especially Vegeta but moving foreword I want new villain cause we know thanks to Beerus that Toriyama can still come up with great ones so it'll be a waste to bring back the old ones especially when there's no reason to.
With his current power a Cell jr from the Cell games would probably be able to kill him.
With him questioning weather or not he can still turn into a Ssj at this point in the story,I don't see how you can make him relevant again.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Cell cuz he can make Gohan relevant again.
With his current power a Cell jr from the Cell games would probably be able to kill him.
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Re: Besides Freeza, what villain was most worthy to come bac
Raditz was the name that sprang to my mind when I read the thread's title. Glad to see I'm not alone on that.
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Funny that some people mention Raditz and him possible training down in hell. Reminded me of a short comic The Devil's Corpse did.




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I'd like to see it. Even if I probably wouldn't watch it the rage on the forum would be definitely worth watching. So much drama...Broly - In all honesty, I wish this character was "rebooted" and given a completely new backstory (not that I trust anyone at Toei, or Toriyama, with such a task). He's too cool looking--which has given him an absurd fanbase--to be the sort of garbage character he ended up being. Broly should be the Original Super Saiyan, not a LSSJ. I can't believe that's even a thing.
In all seriousness- Raditz. I've always felt sorry for him
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Ha!KentalSSJ6 wrote:Funny that some people mention Raditz and him possible training down in hell. Reminded me of a short comic The Devil's Corpse did.
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