Lowest point in the series?

[MajinMan]

What do you guys think is the lowest point in the series? Mine would have to be the 23rd Budokai because it felt kind of empty to me. There wasn't much happening other than Goku fighting Piccolo and marrying Chi-Chi. I don't hate it, I just think it's not as good as the rest of Dragon Ball. The Goku vs Piccolo fight sure is epic though. You can include Battle of Gods if you want to.

[Dyno]

Well, if you allow movies:

Movie 8, Movie 10 and Movie 11.

Other than those crappy movies, Garlic Junior saga, it was pretty boring.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Red Ribbon Army Arc and the Cell Arc (whole things, not Funi's versions) just bore me.

[MajinMan]

Well, if you allow movies:

Movie 8, Movie 10 and Movie 11.

Other than those crappy movies, Garlic Junior saga, it was pretty boring.

If I include Garlic Junior then that would for sure be my least favorite. Movie wise I will say Movie 11 was pretty bad as well.

[Bullza]

The second half of the Pilfaf arc easy. After that the Red Ribbon Army arc which even in the manga was always a bit of a snoozefest.

[Singh is King]

Garlic Jr. and the Android Saga.

[Lord Beerus]

GT, Bio Broly and Dragon Ball Kai 2014/15.

DB Kai hurts the most though. I mean, the immense disappointment that GT turned out to be burned me out on the franchise for a while, but I loved Kai prior to the Majin Boo arc and Toei did not give a single shit about it.

[fadeddreams5]

I don't know about lowest, but I consider all of these low points:
- Garlic Jr saga.
- Seeing Gohan after Cell Games
- SSJ Goten and Trunks
- First appearance of Fat Buu
- Majin Vegeta's sacrifice doing nothing at all
- Mystic Gohan doing nothing at all and slowly fading into obscurity
- Several characterizations in EoZ (e.g. Trunks, Bra, Goten, Gohan)
- GT
- Introduction of Tarble
- SSJG ritual and design
- Frieza's amazing prodigy reveal
- Episode of Bardock
- Dragon Ball Minus

Well, if you allow movies:

Movie 8, Movie 10 and Movie 11.

Broly:

It's okay, Broly. Don't listen to him. He's just jealous Bardock only gets specials and you get three movies. <3

[Zephyr]

I honestly have to say the second half of the Namek arc. The body switch sub-arc and the subsequent battle with Freeza have only become more boring and tedious for me to watch as I've rewatched the series.

[DBZAOTA482]

For the manga? Most of the Majin Boo Saga.

For the anime? The Black Star Saga (horrible).

For the movies? Bio-Broly.

[Kakacarrottop]

- Dragon Ball Evolution
- The Broly trilogy
- The Speedy dub
- The entire Cell/Android arc
- FUNi taking over voice work for season 3 and hiring a bunch of random people off the street
- The Goku vs Freeza and Gohan vs Cell fights which both dragged on for insane amounts of time

[TheBlackPaladin]

If we can include filler? Easy, the Fake Namek arc. By a long shot. SOOO glad this wasn't included in Kai. Good riddance.

If we can't include filler? Probably the ending, honestly. I can't get over how rushed it was.

[AM Reflection]

Hmm. I think it has to be sometime after Evil Boo absorbed the Fat Boo. The story just went completely off the rails from that moment. Absolute lowest point? Probably Super Vegetto's appearances, specifically when he fights as a piece of candy and then what goes on after he gets absorbed by Boo. Definitely if I'm counting the anime filler episodes of that stuff.

[Dbzfan94]

Let's see...

-The ending. Too rushed and had so much potential.
-Most of the RRA and Fortuneteller Baba saga in DB. (Except when Mercenary Tao was around)

[Lord Beerus]

FUNi taking over voice work for season 3 and hiring a bunch of random people off the street

That's a really unfair point. Funimation didn't have much of budget to work with once Saban Entertainment pulled out in terms of financing them. And hey, the show became monstrously popular irregardless of how they hired the actors. And it's not as if the original Ocean dub run of the show was setting the world on fire in terms of popularity and quality of the show and ratings stagnated once the cast changed.

[VegettoEX]

And it's not as if the original Ocean dub run of the show was setting the world on fire in terms of popularity and quality of the show and ratings stagnated once the cast changed.

To be fair: yes, it was.

A foreign show was doing well enough that it was granted a full one-hour timeslot for showing two episodes for its second season in syndication across multiple channels. The only thing holding it back at that point was its timeslot, which Toonami granted with its after-school slot.

[Lord Beerus]

And it's not as if the original Ocean dub run of the show was setting the world on fire in terms of popularity and quality of the show and ratings stagnated once the cast changed.

To be fair: yes, it was.

A foreign show was doing well enough that it was granted a full one-hour timeslot for showing two episodes for its second season in syndication across multiple channels. The only thing holding it back at that point was its timeslot, which Toonami granted with its after-school slot.

Other syndication companies should have picked up the show then, instead of letting it get cancelled for no good reason. Obviously it either wasn't popular enough to be invested into in their eyes, or maybe they just weren't flat out interested.

[VegettoEX]

Other syndication companies should have picked up the show then, instead of letting it get cancelled for no good reason. Obviously it either wasn't popular enough to be invested into in their eyes, or maybe they just weren't flat out interested.

Saban dropped FUNimation and the show.

Cartoon Network picked it up.

I don't know what to tell you. You're literally describing what happened and how it became successful right back to me.

[ABED]

The Buu arc. The villain was far too comedic and the ever escalating transformations and power ups that lead nowhere, and its sheer length make it a chore to watch.

[Lord Beerus]

Other syndication companies should have picked up the show then, instead of letting it get cancelled for no good reason. Obviously it either wasn't popular enough to be invested into in their eyes, or maybe they just weren't flat out interested.

Saban dropped FUNimation and the show.

Cartoon Network picked it up.

I don't know what to tell you. You're literally describing what happened and how it became successful right back to me.

Okay then, one last question. Why did Saban Entertainment stop financing the show? Surely if they saw how good DBZ was doing despite it's poor timeslot, the should have pumped more money into the show to give it a better time slot. Saban practically handed Funimation a multi-million dollar franchise for themselves to keep. If they had stuck to their guns with Dragon Ball Z, Saban would still be in business. Oh, what could have been.